haha, doggles would've gotten away with it too if it weren't for you meddling kids

zoinks

looks like we have a mystery here folks. everyone hop in the mystery van

jinkies! ive lost my glasses

dummy can't make it to middle lol!

so dumby

Arguably I'd say the regular is better if you learn how to aim with something off-center. I prefer the original because of the fact that it feels more like hitscan and it's easier to airshot. But the regular rockets come out of the top right of your screen (not at the corner, but off the center it's to the top left or right, depending on your orientation). I think this makes it a lot easier to shoot rockets downward considering you have the angle advantage. Shooting the top of the train on badlands middle, for instance, is a lot easier with the regular.

I must say I'm really surprised people still get banned for running heavy. If you play at a high level you'll realize people run that class all the time and it's even harder to counter. Might as well get used to it in pugs.

hehe @_@ its like the face that jung makes!

Gunboats are popular nowadays because people have realized that jumping around a map stealing health packs and distracting opponents is more useful than getting a clutch shotgun kill. They also allow fast rollouts to middle where you can surprise a demo (eg snakewater and zbryans gullywash rollout). The way roamer has evolved, to where you don't soak up heals and your primary function is to create opportunities for the rest of your team, shotgun is usually just a more difficult way of playing.

I am nothing without tyrone...

said no one ever

Agreed, but I never really understood the philosophy of the server in the first place. I suppose there may be people who are uninterested in competitive play (and thus don't know or care about esea) who want to use weapons like the LnL and the caber. But that's just it -- is this for competitive players or for everyone? I was always under the impression it was for competitive players. Pubs are pretty much a DM server for anyone uninterested in competitive play. So ideally you would want to replicate an in-game situation as accurately as possible. Why not ban everything that isn't in competitive play? Even maps. I can deal with turbine because it emphasizes deathmatching more than any other map. But the situations you run into on an dm server can definitely help you in a match or scrim. That is, if you have maps that are relevant. I don't think the awesome train surfing headshot you got on the soldier will every come up in a real game.

These threads are made frequently and even though DM server admins are on this site all the time they never get fixed.

Things I love about the DM server:

- the targe is legal, so if you're playing soldier or demo you have to hit a charging idiot for minimal damage while he runs away to health packs spamming pipes

- people jump around with the market gardener or caber essentially wasting everyone's time inside and outside the server (the chances that someone who actually wants to play/warm up/practice is likely waiting on autojoin)

- freight is a map! lol! I dunno about you guys but my preferred method of practice is dodging trains on an outdated, irrelevant map

- isn't the jarate still legal too? like seriously is this 2010?

- the loch n load is legal, just because everyone needs to get their daily dose of banned weapon practice by spamming 1-shot pipes across the map

? Kitchen knives are used to conduct kitchen activities. Cars are used to travel long distances in a short amount of time. These two are capable of killing, but arguably their usefulness outweighs the fact that they can kill. Cars are also designed to limit their killing potential. Archery is slightly different, as it does have the same intrinsic nature as guns, but unless Legolas decided it was time take his anger out on an elementary school I don't think we'd ever see 25 people effortlessly killed with an archery bow. A knife is almost identical. Of course these three things are capable of killing, but compared to a gun their efficiency at it is nearly incomparable. This is the reason the military uses guns and not bow and arrow.

So, yeah, it's pretty easy to draw lines between things that are pretty different.

we're broke

Movement against soldiers and demos is all about doing the unexpected. It comes with the perks that soldiers and demos are prediction classes. More times than not they're going to take the shot that makes more sense to them, the one that will kill you if you do what is expected. They only have so many shots, so when they predict where you're going to be, they want to shoot the road most taken to make sure they get the damage out. If you do something they don't expect, you can throw them off guard. A good way of understanding this completely is to play either soldier or demo against good scouts and see what they do to make you look dumb.

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