maelstrahmOr you people can act like normal human beings. I've played pugs where you guys just cry about every single thing and get off on feeling superior to others.
If you read my post you would have known that I said in non-invite pugs. I know you people would be terrified of acting the way you do in B/C level pugs in invite pugs. Only when you people are around non-invite players is when you guys act so disgustingly condescending.
i acknowledged that you said non-invite pugs, but i said "but in the cases" applying to a new situation just as an aside
i most certainly do not pull a different persona in b/c pugs as i do in invite pugs. it's as simple as people not listening. the main thing i do, for example, is calmly say something like "don't die/suicide here, just leave" and then they do it anyway, so I either, again calmly explain why it was a bad idea to die, or if it keeps happening i might ask why that player didn't listen to me a single time.
however, i do understand my voice always makes it sound like i'm pissed off
I'd hate to live a life so disappointing that I'd get off as much as you do from insulting other people's skill level in a video game.
I feel like that's an insult, but i can't really take it as one because i'm pretty satisfied with my real life, and not because of my tf2 accomplishments, as you might suggest, but because of my in real life accomplishments.
there's a right way and a wrong way to do this
you're absolutely right some people are a little overboard with the direct toxicity, but taking me as an exmaple. as i said above, i might give a clear comm by saying "nobody die here, just leave" then a player dies and i calmly explain a concept to someone, and i've legitimately heard open/im players just disagree on the fact that suiciding was a bad idea after i explained, very calm and briefly "you shouldn't die there because then we can't get a force on 2nd either" like i said, perhaps i'm not the best example actually because my voice makes me sound like i'm pissed all the time
Also, if you want to become a good player, there's nothing more true than owl's post, in all honesty. it's a skill to be able to take people's toxic criticism to be helpful, and honestly a pretty useful one in many parts of real life