rofl what

have u ever watched top NA matches on process? habib single handedly controls the pace of the start of the mid. as for the rest of the map, with good spotting from your teammates, you can control any chokepoint on process by yourself as demo

it's a pretttttty good demo map

that's racist wtf

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which one is skeez

lol half your posts on this forum are you trying to find holes in people's half-ass written arguments. that actually implies that 7 was in fact worse than i58 crowns. they replaced their arguably best player with somebody who despite being good, 1) doesn't main scout 2) was playing on 60hz. nevertheless, that is meaningless as that is not their roster for i61. even though they are performing better now, every single one of them would agree that they are playing worse than i58 crowns rn. hence, the notion that "they're pretty similar so i can see your point, but even still, every i-series top 4 was respectively better." not a single player at the very top of the game would disagree

my judgment is from actually watching matches outside of NA. if you watch these matches and think the quality of play is the same, you have terrible understanding of high level tf2, or you're just delusional.

on top of that, literally every top NA and EU player (that's actually good) agrees that it's not the same. also, i've played against the vast majority of those teams in matches, at LAN, and also a few scrims in the past. i haven't played against (but still watched) the current mid level EU teams but it's clear they're worse than 7, while 7 would agree they're currently worse than a lot of those i series teams in the past.

e: i'm not saying you specifically are bad or delusional, but you're making yourself sound that way considering every single top player i've ever talked to agrees from personal experience.

no, some time between 31st and 4th or so

that's just not even true though. pretty much every top 4 team for the past few years at i series is respectively better than the ones at i61, meaning each 1st place team is better than this 1st place team, each 2nd place team is better than this 2nd place team. the only exception from memory is that crowns from i58 and 7 this time are pretty similar

i'm not trying to shittalk i61, but people disagreeing with true posts need a reality check about the competition in tf2

??????

Not disagreeing with you but the fact that Dreamboat is being -fragged. Generally quality over quantity means a quality top 3/4. every i series had a significantly better top 3 or 4. If 7 isn't going, this is by far the lowest skill level at the top, and even if they are going, i55 still had significantly better top 4 teams.

All dreamboat is saying is this isnt a LAN of the very best teams in tf2 currently like how it used to be, and an i-series will never live up to that particular expectation anymore. Not really sure what's to disagree with.

ur shitposts are pretty terrible (tbh)

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o_O

-frag dippidy if u think hes getting carried by odb

lol mr popo doesnt lose

gl tho ig

All I'm going to say is if you're going to invest resources in tf2, you should do it right. These little cups that companies in the past decade of tf2 have decided to host are generally insignicant, to the point where the organizers are surprised it didn't have a bigger turnout. With that said, however, I can 100% guarantee that if you held legitimate tournaments with money, but not too often (so you could provide larger prizes), you will see the top of the competitive scene bloom a lot, and thus the rest of the competitive scene.