what exactly is the problem with wwcf wanting to forfeit the match if they can't field their starting lineup and have to play with an inactive player and people changing classes? r u srs.
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Hildrethhttp://etf2l.org/matches/45745/
The match comments say:
1) Epsilon can't play until Thursday onwards.
2) WWF can't play on Thursday or Sunday.
Saturday and Friday only days left according to match comments - so a weekend default date is only option according to what is posted.
However since it's a Grand Final, and it is a one off match I can't see why an extension couldn't be granted to play any day from the week of 16th-19th. A strange decision indeed, perhaps there is another underlying reason why this can't be done after Sunday.
a very fair and rational analysis and i agree with it all.
so where does the irrationality come in that leads to "if you don't play the grand finals on this date you can't field your team on, we're going to punish you severely"?
AdmirableWell in fairness I've only heard the WWCF side of the story. Would love to hear from Epsilon and the admins involved.
yeah it'd be great to hear from the admins, they can explain why every season they try to fuck over one team. this is about the fourth time i've heard a story of the admins doing everything they can to fuck over one of the finals teams.
so the etf2l grand finals are set - willy wonka's chocolate factory vs. epsilon esports. man oh man, what an exciting match that'll be! i can't wait to hear admirable cast it as kaidus goes up against the top team in europe, as knoxxx gets another crack at the team he was on for so many seasons! i sure hope nothing catastrophic gets in the way of this match being played on fair and even ground!
3:30 PM - Admirable: yo
3:30 PM - djc: when's the grand finals
3:30 PM - Admirable: Friday
3:30 PM - djc: when do i get to hear that sweet irish voice
3:30 PM - djc: what the fuck
3:30 PM - djc: friday???
3:30 PM - Admirable: yeah admins forcing WWCF to play
3:30 PM - Admirable: without KnOxXx
3:30 PM - Admirable: and whilst kaidus is visiting 2nuts in SWE
3:31 PM - Admirable: so they play Friday without practise or warmup
3:31 PM - Admirable: :D
3:31 PM - Admirable: cookye to scout
3:31 PM - Admirable: Zebbo to pocket
... oh. so there IS some contrived shit happening. well i'm sure the admins have a good and valid reason for forcing WWCF to play without their lineup on a day on which nobody plays tf2, right?? and i bet they're being reasonable and fair about it, too, because that's what level-headed neutrally-aligned people do!
3:31 PM - Admirable: admins threatening to ban them if they gave the forfeit
3:31 PM - Admirable: some ridiculous bullshit
3:32 PM - Admirable: or holding their prize money
well shucks. looks like i'm a solid 0 for 2 here. let's delve deeper!
17:09 - smzii 22" u jelly?: jo
17:09 - smzii 22" u jelly?: you wanna play the etf2l final
17:09 - smzii 22" u jelly?: on friday 21:15?
17:13 - Admirable: lal
17:13 - Admirable: I should cast it really
17:14 - smzii 22" u jelly?: the game will be 5on6
17:14 - smzii 22" u jelly?: and we prolly need mercs aswell
17:14 - smzii 22" u jelly?: so no point in casting that
17:14 - smzii 22" u jelly?: if we give default
17:14 - Admirable: LOL
17:14 - smzii 22" u jelly?: etf2l wont give us pricemoney
17:14 - Admirable: rip tf2
17:14 - smzii 22" u jelly?: well we got screwed over
17:14 - smzii 22" u jelly?: with scheduling
17:14 - smzii 22" u jelly?: nothing we can do
17:34 - smzii 22" u jelly?: btw the pricemoney thing isnt confirmed
17:34 - smzii 22" u jelly?: but sonny said there will be consequences
17:34 - smzii 22" u jelly?: and well
17:34 - smzii 22" u jelly?: what else matters
17:34 - smzii 22" u jelly?: they wont ban us from league
17:34 - smzii 22" u jelly?: but ye
18:29 - smzii 22" u jelly? is now Online.
18:42 - smzii 22" u jelly?: so can u play friday?
18:54 - Admirable: uh
18:54 - Admirable: quite likely ye
18:55 - Admirable: would rather not :D
18:55 - smzii 22" u jelly?: you have to
18:55 - smzii 22" u jelly?: i really have trouble
18:55 - smzii 22" u jelly?: to field 3 players from our roster
18:55 - smzii 22" u jelly?: no joke
18:55 - Admirable: I better get a medal
18:57 - smzii 22" u jelly?: cool
18:57 - smzii 22" u jelly?: so i have you
18:57 - smzii 22" u jelly?: and 2nuts
18:57 - smzii 22" u jelly?: who will prolly stay afk in spawn
18:57 - Admirable: lol wut
18:57 - smzii 22" u jelly?: well
18:58 - smzii 22" u jelly?: kaidus visits him in swe
18:58 - smzii 22" u jelly?: and they wont be around
18:58 - smzii 22" u jelly?: so i get 2nuts to log on
18:58 - Admirable: I don't want to be part of some sham match
18:58 - smzii 22" u jelly?: and join server
18:58 - Admirable: fuck that shit man
18:58 - Admirable: just forfeit it
18:58 - smzii 22" u jelly?: well
18:59 - smzii 22" u jelly?: its etf2l final
18:59 - smzii 22" u jelly?: blabla
18:59 - Admirable: you already played the whole fucking season
18:59 - smzii 22" u jelly?: or they just take our money
18:59 - smzii 22" u jelly?: asi assumed earlier
18:59 - smzii 22" u jelly?: they dont care ads
18:59 - Admirable: no you already earned the money
18:59 - smzii 22" u jelly?: and iam telling you they dont care
18:59 - smzii 22" u jelly?: no rules
18:59 - smzii 22" u jelly?: ok we make one up
18:59 - Admirable: I am going to start a war on admin channel
18:59 - smzii 22" u jelly?: headadmins
19:00 - smzii 22" u jelly?: o god
19:04 - smzii 22" u jelly?: maybe we can move it to next week
19:04 - smzii 22" u jelly?: or something
19:04 - smzii 22" u jelly?: lets see
19:37 - broder Zebbosai: Game confirmed for friday btw and we ended up making a full lineup without u so hope to see u cast :D final lineup is me ryb kukkye sam salt 2nuts
20:05 - Admirable: dope :D
20:05 - Admirable: I'll be there
20:05 - Admirable: you gonna have any practise?
20:06 - broder Zebbosai: well a change happened before jason will play instead of ryb
20:06 - broder Zebbosai: cause twoonie had some craptop
20:06 - broder Zebbosai: that jason wanted to use
20:06 - broder Zebbosai: and no no warmup like even if we wanted too we cant get a game at that time
so if you're too lazy to read those chatlogs:
TL;DR: etf2l is forcing a team to play down basically three starters on a Friday and threatening to withhold money or ban them or some other nebulous nonspecific punishment if they opt to forfeit. what the fuck is that shit???? what stupid ass justification can someone possibly make for this? "oh it's christmas in 15 days you know, can't let people play matches on the week of the 16th, that's sacrilege!!!"
Irishhhh"screw you djc" thank you Phrakture!
better than the other name, at least.
11:19 PM - djc: look how hard ur scrimmin
11:20 PM - heavygear megabuddy116: so uh
11:20 PM - heavygear megabuddy116: we are pushing their last
11:20 PM - heavygear megabuddy116: with uber advantage
11:20 PM - djc: yeah
11:20 PM - djc: dp sniping i bet
11:20 PM - heavygear megabuddy116: and jonah is at OUR last
11:20 PM - heavygear megabuddy116: ..................
11:20 PM - djc: LOL
11:20 PM - djc: how did he get there
11:20 PM - heavygear megabuddy116: sigh
d o w n p o u r
there was early talk of ginyu trying to stay alive but at the end of the convo everyone said "yo fuck this" so the $$$ probably isn't gonna change much
watch out open, theunforgiven plan to on-class. they will stampede their way into and through the playoffs on the back of downpour's superb scout play
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/20447376/Pictures/joona.jpg
DRS Max??????????????????? make it happen
deadly premonition is on sale for 50% off (not a front page sale, just a general one) and it's an incredible game at $12.50 and a wonderful experience if you like twin peaks/the x-files/the twilight zone/etc
does anyone have that log of yaug punching his monitor after a loss
or the time he punched apoc, either one works in this situation
a week ago, certain AG members were openly telling others that AG were throwing matches for playoff seeding, and then three big cuts
coincidence????????????????????????????????????
KanecoAlso squid, that skyride post you used as base of your argument in the first post is from a person totally out of touch with the scene and probably still bitter with it. The ETF2L admin team has some of the most helpful, competent and genuinely interested group of people I have had the pleasure to deal with.
what about admirable's post where he shit all over etf2l and its admins, too?
did a completely fresh install and it crashes the second i hit tab still
i did it with both the installer and a manual install and still crashed