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amazing 1st bo3... GJ mTs, hyped for Thursday's match although I'll be at work and Kip will be casting it.

Thanks to all the viewers that showed up, was a great night!

Yyyaaooo. If this doesn't get streamed live I'd love to do a production of it. eXtine@eXtelevision.com is my e-mail. GL HF

Still would like to cast the grand finals, only have 3rd place match demos. - eXtine@eXtelevision.com

I'll miss you cinq. Wish I could make it, ETS is a ton of fun, I encourage anyone thinking bout it to go big and make it to ETS.

Did a vlog to help spread the word (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXEptli_RI0), GL HF everyone!

From the land of CEVO comes this fantastic match up between Team iT and Bob & Weave (Watch This) on Snakewater

http://youtu.be/IoNAiY2wwL0

huuuuuuge jagershot!

12. The food at the hotel bar is underwhelming, but it is a bar directly upstairs from the LAN.

Looking into getting a casting setup for the SF (and smash bros?) Tourney. I got a black magic card I can bring with me, and I've been chatting with the admins already... console -> projector -> capture card? Hopefully that'll work, I don't want to add input delay through routing it into the capture card.

I'll actually be trying to cast all the tourneys, especially considering that FITES tries to schedule tourneys so everyone can compete in everything. L4D2 finals were awesome but we didn't have the spectator slot worked out last year :/

Fragile - Definitely pester WW to come!!!

Big ups to dash for the help. I was putting the spechelper alongside the advspec plugin, but I guess it has to go to the original addons location, not the custom/ folder.

I'm good to go with Spechelper again, which will definitely lead to more first person pov shots since I can control where my camera goes instead of cycling through 17 players!

There was much rejoicing... yay.

Thanks for the offer dash. Added you.

My version is from 5/17/13... could be something on my end, but it'd be great to try out whatever version you got.

That's definitely part of that influence on my outlook as well. When I'm doing the camera and casting, I know what the viewer is seeing. I know they didn't see the sniper kill the medic because I just read it off of the killfeed and didn't see it, but wanted to point it out so they can continue to watch the action.

The disconnect between cameraman and caster can definitely lead to confusion sometimes. It is something that is unique to FPS eSports as with RTS's/Mobas it's a lot more clear where the action is taking place as well as easier to move the camera suddenly to that location.

Trying to bridge that disconnect is why I like either doing post-produced solo casts, or dual casts with already completed camerawork. That way the viewer and the caster are seeing the eXact same thing.

Couple things...

I know there is definitely some personal preference here, and I know my personal preference swings more towards 3rd person. I doubt I'll completely change your opinion, but here's some thoughts.

Miek's SpecPlayer plugin doesn't work anymore. I messaged him a few months back when I had difficulties, he said he'd look into them, but I never heard back, and never followed up. My bad on the last part. That plugin is fantastic because it allows you to bind buttons to switch perspectives directly to who you want. The stock cvar spec_player requires you to have the players name directly as it's spelled and doesn't work if there are spaces involved. When live casting, and doing the camerawork myself, I don't have the time to rewrite my configs while producing and talking. Blue's advspec plugin doesn't have that command :/

The lack of being able to pick out who I want to go to is a major turn off for me when it comes to first person. There are some tricks, such as the fact that if you go into free-cam, then return to first person, it goes back to the player you were on before. I'll utilize this, but cycling through players frantically trying to find the blu medic or the red demo annoys me as a cameraman, and as a viewer when I watch games.

You're right, Highlander is a very frantic game. If it takes 2-3 seconds to adjust my camera back to a decent viewpoint after a player dies, then it's very hard to properly showcase the constant action through first person in the midst of a busy fight.

I really like 3rd person because it provides a continuity that hopping through different player perspectives doesn't offer. It really to me is the best viewpoint to showcase team positioning, co-ordination, and momentum. I think that TF2 is eXceptionally fun to watch in third person compared to other eSports, and that the third person camera is much more accessible to viewers who might be unfamiliar with the game.

You mention tribes, but tribes grandeur and distance is what made third person spectating terrible. It's a huge game with players railing off long distance disc shots and picking up a ton of speed through surfing. I tried to watch some tribes streams and tuned out immediately because it was hard to see what action was taking place or pick up the shifts in the game.

Especially with HL and so much going on, I call out stuff from the killfeed so that our viewers can stay focused on the craziness I'm capturing in the frame. There is a lot to digest, and while I get your point that you'd rather see that Sniper get the medic kill, 90% of the time if I'm trying to give a first-person perspective, we're going to miss that Shot anyways. If I stuck on Sniper POV for 15 seconds while there is an intense fight going on the cart, and the sniper does kill the medic, then I still missed MOST of the action that was going on at the time. Sure thats one big play I called out but couldn't show, but my camera in the meantime was capturing the majority of what was going on. If it's more of a slow tempo, I'll try to hop into the pov of pick classes, but again the obstacle of control is frustrating.

If I'm running camera and casting at the same time, I'll definitely rely more heavily on third person so that I can put sentences together instead of fumbling with the keyboard. c0ld performed camera duty while we had two casters for our other match, AG/Ginyu, perhaps that camerawork is more what you're looking for.

I try to use a lot more first person in 6s, and its a bit easier to either follow certain classes that you know are about to make plays, or showcase teamwork through where those classes are setup.

I appreciate the feedback, but honestly my enjoyment of doing third person camerawork of eSport TF2 is why I got my start doing eXtv and why I'm still here.

wanna fill us in real quick? lets hear it...

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