it's 2015, why aren't they waving already? smh

Instead of being sarcastic you should keep your promise and show some transparency with the funds. It's been 7 months since you started collecting money. So far tf2center has seeded back 0 of that back to the community hence why most of your staff left.

Don't be the boogie man people paint you to be, your site has potential to be an asset to the competitive community and people have spent time and money on it to make sure it is. Be the better man and actually take steps to live up to your site's motto.

So 1k per year on infra, where did the other 5~6k they collected by donations go? I have an idea...

thread went right into the dumpster

Being on a team with 'cuntwaffles' doesn't excuse whoever keeps on carrying on this witch hunt to slack when collecting evidence. AC work is fact based, either someone cheats or he doesn't. Anything between is just suspicion and should be handled with care.

@ricky Please get more ticks and build up a case instead. This is just detrimental to what people are trying to achieve in this thread.

If you're talking about yuri's ban, we never banned him on logs alone.
the 91% acc log was an indication of something fishy, the center ban got applied on additional evidence.

I quit center and there is nobody on the staff that actually played comp at any level, so a fair review of the case isn't going to happen I guess.

I don't mind competition, but first look at the good and viable alternatives. TF2Pickup is accessible for anyone to contribute. Creating your system from scratch instead looking if you can help them is just a bad starting point.

The TF2C meeting was at the late june, and we reserved a week length for Foungi to discuss things with masternoob. After the week (last week) hartz went on and announced our detachment from center. Obviously that was hasted but our full announcement on how what when was posted shortly thereafter.

I was fully aware of what was happening and why MN did what he has done. I had behind the scenes view of both organisations, and I would not have walked away from a project I've spent that much time on if there was any doubt of center being dishonest to the community.

I've said it at truetf2 but I'll post it here for visibility:

Again he's lying about informing LAN organisation about the 500 euro.

When we were in a TF2Center staff meeting, MN mentioned to have cut the entire prize pool, and donate 500 euro to our fund raiser instead (covering costs for players coming to LAN).

I couldn't call him out on it since he might have told other LAN staff members about it, and went to Foungi (DeutschLAN staff). Foungi then told me he never heard about anything less than 2000,-

Late june was the first time anyone of LAN staff hearing about not receiving a prize pool from TF2Center, and instead getting a donation to the fund raiser.

Sadly I know how this came to be, I was invited to MN's house a while ago and showed him the indiegogo, having a pretty neat amount after just a few days campaigning. He probably thought it was easier to just add to the campaign, but that was set up to cover costs for staff and players, with a guaranteed prize pool in mind.

Yes I'm able to login now, which was listed in the apology http://etf2l.org/forum/community/topic-31792/page-1/
I'm still banned from their forums and advanced lobbies.

fairy isn't 14, trust me

*but still like 10 years younger than the guy

Believe me, we tried.

That's why most of us ex-staff members signed up and stuck with it even though we had clashes some times. We were looking to improve competitive TF2 and seed most of the donated money back into the community. There is only so many times you can believe being told that it will be happening. But 1.5 years as effort and more than 6 months without any results puts a real strain on that. Money and content wise it's not as generous as promised to us working on the project.

Have you guys checked tf2pickup? it's in need of coders and has a solid foundation.

oh wow

https://www.rechat.org/