I don't know if you're missing the hint or something, but if he's banned from here and enigma says that about him, I seriously doubt enigma would know or at all care.

Couldn't sign up for the US, so I'm a Canadian. I ain't even mad, I'm sorry.

Honestly, I don't know how much of your post I can agree with.

1) Can anyone EVER be comfortable in TF2 Lobby? I certainly can't, and definitely do not recommend it if you actually want to learn 6s.

2) UGC 6s, while it has its problems, is not a bad idea. Not everyone will want to jump into a paid league from the start.

...Arrested Development? It's in the title.

I wouldn't worry about it. If they are, most likely they weren't worth your time in the first place.

I moved your thread from General Discussion to Recruitment. Have fun and good luck. :)

The whole point of this pick/ban item list thing is so Valve knows which weapons to change. If it isn't tweaked yet, it'll still be banned by said HL lobby system. Valve will retweak it to within their best interest. We should leave Valve to be making those balancing specifics rather than try to do it ourselves. We should judge unlocks on this pick/ban list with regards to competitive.

It's an interesting thought to think about in contrast to Ruwin's awesome posts. I think, to reassure you, that things will be okay either way, because the scenarios will end like this:

1) Valve rebalances items; community still hates them -> whitelist as it is
2) Valve rebalances items; community LIKES them, meta shifts, fun times will be had.
3) Still broken for now; community will obviously hate them -> whitelist as it is

The crazy one is #4:
- Half of the community likes the meta shift of unlocks.
- Other half likes the old ESEA whitelist (to give an example of a widely accepted whitelist).

This will either result in ESEA shifting or remaining the same for a while longer. And it might result in another league adopting a new whitelist with meta changes OR a new league popping up with new ideas for the whitelist.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that I wouldn't worry too much; I think there will be a place for our beloved whitelist for a long time. At least theoretically, based on what I think, alone.

You should probably clarify exactly what, before people take what you say even further incorrectly.

OH BABY.

THE JUGGERNAUT MATCH IS HERE.

1) Thank you, Sal and eXtine!

2) Seems like people are frustrated that Valve aren't supporting 6s? I wouldn't worry about it too much. Here's why.

3) HL is closer to pubs than 6s. HL is the correct decision, given how much support TF2 is receiving on behalf of Valve (vs. Dota 2). But this is NOT bad for us. In fact, it's probably better than starting with 6s. Ease the non-comp players in! Make it fun for them, don't go straight to 6s and scare them away!

4) Item rebalancing is an INCREDIBLY exciting prospect.

5) Valve have made some odd decisions in the past, not with just other games but also TF2, of course. But they're willing to fix and/or optimize their decisions. That's what this says to me.

EDIT: Big Ruwin

These guys are dabes. Great dudes. You won't be disappointed if you try out.

With how close Mad Men vs mix^ was, this should be a VERY good match.

rr puts a third sticky right above the second ramp (he doesn't surf it) so he gets to the health pack faster.

b4nny may have complimented rr on that rollout. JUST SAYING.

MIKE. <|8O)