All nice laid back guys. Good group of guys to play with.

You weren't exactly the shining beacon of open arms and good communication, though. It's a delicate situation because if you do want to actually have a conversation then you can't just be so easily dismissive of other peoples' opinions (silver HL star or not). If you don't want an actual discussion then there's nothing to post in the first place. If you just want to shake the bee-hive a bit then post a rather confrontational thread and posts. Unfortunately, finding something in between where you get good discussion but only from people you want (by satisfying some criteria) is hoping for the impossible, at least on public forums like these. You'd need to find some fairly charitable people (which you weren't) in that you expect people who come to these boards to be invested in the game, probably watch streams etc. If you can't be charitable and look at the points people are making for their own sake (as opposed to whether they fit your criteria of having a legitimate opinion) then you're the one who can't "hold a serious discussion".

Also I don't understand how you could trust Killing to make this decision unilaterally. It just doesn't make sense to me. You're basically throwing your hands in the air and saying "fuck it just have one person decide".

This shouldn't even be happening in the first place. A weapon that gets added mid-season then gets banned without going through the proper process other than "I spoke to people, it would be banned". If that's true, then just go through the fucking process so that you can retain credibility. Or just don't add weapons half-way through the season to begin with to maintain credibility, either or. For fucks sake.. this isn't rocket surgery.

Dedicated to doing what the team needs of him and has good DM.

The times I played with her were fairly unpleasant (pugs as well as a scrim i rang for a team she played on). Has a pretty bad 'tude, condescending when she thinks she has room to be (thinks she's better than you, etc), tries to micromanage beyond anything that could be functional/reasonable in addition to having questionable calls.

Get on your team if you need help quitting tf2.

Good DM, seems willing to learn. Unfortunately, I feel that all this praise for his sniper plays against him and is a little too eager to play that role for my liking. I don't think i've seen him go heavy defending last without someone having to tell him as he simply tends towards sniper instinctually, even in questionable situations. With that under wrap, though, he would be a very solid pick up.

Played with him for ~a week or 2. Good guy, but randomly didn't show up to scrims and was very unapologetic about it ("it's just a game"). Has the mentality that if you care you're a nerd. Solid DM, very aggro which can be a plus but could be a liability.

Has a hot sister, pick her up. Also (not so) secretly thinks he's black, can be a plus or minus.

Team found.

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5azn7me

Sharpest pipes NA, looking to backup for a team.

http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198000692090/

You've yet to make a convincing case for why we have a bad product. You say we have a bad product if we want larger tournaments, but we'll get larger tournaments if we get more viewers which is the same as equating a bad product with an unpopular one, which you just agreed isn't the case. Which is it?

For one you'd have to look at the lengths of time these games have been in existence. Change in meta is always slow in any field (whether it be sports or academic fields). At play is a lot more than "some people find this fun and others don't". I'm no sociologist but behind football is a lot of history, hype, identity formation through a team, etc. I honestly don't like Dota 2, I find it slow and boring. But there's a shit-ton more hype around it (and anything else associated with hype like money, time, ads) than tf2. Moreover, tf2 is way older. Even if you started seeing ads now for competitive tf2, the population at large probably wouldn't care much - "isn't that the game that came out 7 years ago?".

My bigger problem is that 6s is already hard enough to follow as it is (I get a lot more out of watching a demo by myself than streams in 1st person. I'd rather watch from the top to see how things develop and go in 1st person if i'm looking at what this person did in this specific situation). HL just has too much happening that makes it too hard to follow. Behind football are huge crews of camera-men and guys telling which camera they're going to be on etc. If you want to have HL be taken seriously you'd need more than 1 camera guy focusing on specific players. For me, the limited amount of information bombarded at you makes 6s much more bearable than HL.

Found one!