tobiasCan we get a pug cancel button?
We played a pug where the enemy med did not have tf2 installed and no sub was found in 20 minutes. Enemy team had to go afk and let us win in 5 minutes to end the pug.
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tobiasCan we get a pug cancel button?
We played a pug where the enemy med did not have tf2 installed and no sub was found in 20 minutes. Enemy team had to go afk and let us win in 5 minutes to end the pug.
hi, thanks for all the help.
DivineATreverieI do want to mention that using this method (pausing and going tick-by-tick) the ang values were not consistent every time I went through (by around +-0.2). The demoui also sometimes skips 2 ticks instead of 1 when using the goto button. This usually happened when I tried to go from 55->56, and it ended up going straight to 57. The data above is what happened when I was able to actually land directly on 56, then progressed to 57 and 58 by 1 tick.Pretty sure if u just press this button on the demoui you'll go by 1-tick exacthttps://i.imgur.com/noXC8Uz.png
unfortunately the next tick button on the demoui still has the same problem of skipping some ticks. however using these commands:
developer 1
demo_debug 1
con_filter_enable 1
con_filter_text "dem_consolecmd"
it appears yen fired on 55956. this means the crosshair actually over flicked. assuming this to be true, the sniper clip is now incredibly inconclusive. thanks for helping me get to the bottom of this one. I am probably going to go over some of the other pov demos with less confirmation bias this time.
ondkajareveriehttps://youtu.be/Z-wVXpnYsrgIf you want to see the actual recorded angles, you have to go through a POV demo tick-by-tick while paused.
a longer video this time, this time looking at the crosshair positions, open to feed/pushback on my analysis
EDIT: One more thing, you can just check the angles within cl_showpos 1 while paused. Much better method than drawing lines on a video.
hello, thank you so much for the insight. I went through and looked at every angle value cl_showpos 1 in accordance to trippa's image (https://i.imgur.com/LKt1Kcn.jpeg)
(559)53: -3.87 -39.47
54: -3.97 -39.77
55: -4.46 -41.02
56: -4.86 -41.47
57: -5.15 -42.05 (this is when I heard the sniper shot)
58: -5.02 -41.64 (crosshair is now moving back down to the left)
59: -4.51 -40.40
60: -4.23 -39.34
61: -3.37 -38.37
62: -3.03 -38.80
63: -2.93 -38.99
I do want to mention that using this method (pausing and going tick-by-tick) the ang values were not consistent every time I went through (by around +-0.2). The demoui also sometimes skips 2 ticks instead of 1 when using the goto button. This usually happened when I tried to go from 55->56, and it ended up going straight to 57. The data above is what happened when I was able to actually land directly on 56, then progressed to 57 and 58 by 1 tick.
I went through the ticks 56-59 multiple times, and each time the sniper shot sound was played on 57. Through multiple passes, the crosshair would stop moving rightward on either 57 or 58. However, what was consistent was that yen's crosshair always changed direction in 1 tick. Either 57-58, or 58-59. I never saw yen's crosshair stay still between 57-58.
If someone here knows a lot about tf2 demos, then I would very much like your insight. I would like to try this analysis again with any other demos that have surfaced.
https://youtu.be/Z-wVXpnYsrg
a longer video this time, this time looking at the crosshair positions, open to feed/pushback on my analysis
I agree that none of these individual clips are conclusive enough to ban just based off of one or two of them, but the amount of sus flicks/clips that are surfacing, his ridiculously consistent logs, and other older evidence in this thread is pretty damning.
comparison of regular yen sniper aim to the toggled clip
https://youtu.be/rf5Hxh4-W1M
this might be extremely redundant, but I made a video taking a very close look at that flick
https://youtu.be/CIfcExuqfSg
I also have a half edited video of some comparisons between legit/believable flicks vs the sus one, but I fell at this point that is unnecessary to post.
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