$20 razer store voucher like no one is gonna sign up for that

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Waifu is Laifu

Anyone with more than 1 waifu is a disgusting slut.

m8 I just think it would be nice to see they still wanna support TF2. Its obvious epsilon are a lot more interested in overwatch and real life stuff right now but I was just suggesting to them it would be nice for them to donate what they can to help out this event even if they can't go themselves. Maybe they have already donated but idk why everyone is getting so upset that i'm suggesting this.

Team looks cool apart from tviq. Great work buttnose.

Why don't the epsilon use the money they were gonna use from their own pockets for dreamhack and maybe donate it to this fundraiser? It would be nice to see that they still want to support TF2 even if they aren't going.

This shit really damages tf2 though like TF2 has always had trouble as an esport but we always had these LANs and we would get some solid viewer numbers as well. When people hear that the "best" team in Europe aren't even going people aren't really gonna care to watch this. We all knew this was gonna be the big Epsilon vs Reason showdown and people were gonna watch this live to see that. Now its gonna be Reason vs an easy lan win in the finals lol

Also numlocked and mike right now https://youtu.be/N1seyAkxO1s?t=15s

http://www.teamfortress.tv/29954/sweden-increase-terrorist-risk-level-dreamhack

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http://www.teamfortress.tv/29996/epsilon-pull-out-of-dreamhack

Coincidence? I think not. The fucking Muslims did this.

Give us or some other good team the money and we will happily attend. Some people actually give a shit.

professional autist? more like professional artist.

kantan desu or just kantan

Why do you want the discussion to stop. I don't get how it affects you personally so much that you want people to stop posting on a forum that you can ignore and have no reason to read or pay any attention to whatsoever. If you are getting annoyed by someones stupid posts then its best to just not bother reading what the person is posting. Like now when I see a post submitted by mustardoverlord I just won't even glance at it.

It's relevant because a lot of people on this thread don't seem to properly understand why people are being so anti-islam after these attacks. I just want people to be less ignorant about this. I'm really sick of seeing the word "racist" being thrown around here when its not the correct word to use. My point was basically - After an event like this a lot people are gonna be more afraid of Muslims. For most of us it won't really affect us since this event didn't personally impact us. For those people who were heavily impacted by it and have found themselves very anti-Islam because of it. They need to stop being persecuted by society and instead have society help them into changing their ways. This thread has shown me that a lot of people here have no intention of helping anyone and instead want to ridicule people they believe to be racist. This attitude will make ISIS stronger and it will make it much harder for people to recover from events like these.

I really feel like you aren't reading or understanding my post. I did NOT say that the fear is justified. I am saying that from a psychology standpoint, there is a reason that so many people are becoming afraid of Muslims. I don't get why people think I am trying to justify racism or think this makes it ok. People who murder also have a reason that makes sense or else they wouldn't murder but that doesn't make it ok. What I am saying is that if we want to solve this problem of "islamophobia" and racism in general we need to start understanding WHY people are against Muslims. Then we can start rehabilitation for them. Its not as simple as just "overcoming that fear you have of them" like you said. First we need to understand why the fear is there so we can start helping them get over this fear. A big problem nowadays, even in the psychology world, is that people don't want to even try understanding racism and why people feel the way they do, all people want to do is throw out hate and fling about words that will ultimately cause the racism to get worse.

If you want to solve a problem the first step is to understand it. People seem to be missing this part.

I think you have misunderstood my post. I was certainly not saying racism is ok, just like how sexism is also not ok. I was saying that there is usually a logical explanation for people being racist/sexist and more importantly - people can change their views on a race, gender, country ect with proper threapy. Just like the young girl who is afraid of men because of what a man did will get therapy and help so she can overcome her sexism, racism can be overcome with therapy, help, understanding and support. Think of it like this - no one will ever call the girl sexist because people understand the reason she feels this way towards men and instead of persecuting her they will try to help her. We need to act the same with people who are against Muslims,

Obviously it is logical to not feel any hostility towards entire races, sex or counties because certain people from a certain race, sex or country have caused one grief in any form in the past. Unfortunately this is not how human psychology works - I can go back to my example of women who are abused by men at a young age, if a young girl is repeatedly sexually abused by a specific gender (lets say men here) then the child will begin to have negative associations with not only the man who was abusing her but also with men in general, obviously not all men sexually abuse little girls but even if the girl knows that she can't help but feel scared or angry at any man she comes into contact with because it was a man who did it, It can take years of therapy for the girl to be able to trust men again and some women can go their whole lives never trusting men because of what one man did to them.

Obviously this is quite a different example but the psychology is very similar. It happened to america after 9/11 and its happening to Europe now. People are going to start negatively associating Islam as a religion and the people who follow it because of what a few crazy Muslims did. People know that not all Muslims are killers and they know that the Muslim they are talking to is perfectly harmless and probably a really nice guy. However the young girl who was sexually abused knows that the majority of men she comes into contact with are also harmless and probably really nice guys as well, despite this she will still have extreme difficulty for the rest of her life trusting men in general because of what one man did to her.

Most of us haven't been affected too badly by Muslims in our lifetime so we might find it hard to understand why a lot of people find it hard to trust Muslims nowadays just like the girl who wasn't sexually abused finds it hard to understand why the other girl who was can't talk to men.

With something like this happening, those of us with empathy are affected when people are killed so brutally like they were in Paris. Sometimes this is what causes "Islamophobia" or "racism". It's not always illogical hatred or ignorance like you all seem to think it is - it sometimes comes down to reasonable negative association. I am not defending racism but I think sometimes extremely racist people need therapy and help instead of more hatred thrown at them by people who don't understand what has caused them to be "racist" in the first place. You find it hard to understand something that you have never experienced

So this is why the more this kind of thing happens, the more people will start to worry when they see that their taxi driver is Muslim or that their new best friend has turned to Islam. People will fear their safety because the people causing these events call themselves Muslim. Its not illogical at all really, it mainly comes down to basic psychology. People can really turn their views around if they acknowledge and understand why they are feeling this way about Muslims. It's important to know that how they are feeling isn't entirely unjustified and they are not bad people for feeling like this. This is why people need to stop throwing around the word "racist" here when someone says anything remotely against Islam, all it will do is make them feel worse and it will certainly not help to change their views.

I can promise you that if your mother was one of the people gunned down in Paris on Friday. You would find it very hard to accept and trust Muslims for a long time.