Looking to build a PC for a friend. Here is a very rough list: http://au.pcpartpicker.com/p/Wd7YFT

I built a PC with many of the same/similar parts (case, RAM, CPU cooler, motherboard, 750w version of the PSU) just under a year ago but prices on many of them (including the CPUs) have gone up significantly. I would be looking at minimizing cost with using this as a ballpark for performance (but definitely can go lower, this is quite pricey). He's looking at doing a fair bit of video editing and mapping, in addition to uni-work and some newer games, but doesn't mind not pushing top graphics settings in them. If he runs out of space with the 1tb he can always just put in another HDD - he doesn't really store much movies or music it'd just be the video files. The monitor is because he doesn't have a 1920x1080 monitor right now. He can probably wait 1-3 weeks on everything but the monitor if it will help with prices. Getting it around $1350 AUD would be swell.

Thanks in advance!

So definitely wait a bit.

Even if the new CPUs end up too expensive in Australia it's doable.

CPU: Xeon E3-1230 v3 instead of i7-4790, -0.3GHz, -iGPU, -110$, fair trade I'd say.
Cooler: No overclocking so just drop it.
Mobo: No overclocking, no need for Z97. -100$.
RAM: Not much I can do if he actually needs 16GB. Colour scheme though.
SSD: Minor savings, slightly newer.
HDD: Just an alternative, get whatever is cheaper.
GPU: 270/270X is a bit faster. Before I saw your edit I was about the suggest the GTX 960 as a step up, but with the 270 it ends up at 1354$ so it's not happening.
Case: µATX ftw. -150$ if you drop down to something really basic.
PSU: You've got a 750W PSU for a <300W build? That's money well spent. Or did you go SLI? Anyway, Antec HCG-520M, decent semi-modular Seasonic. If you insist on 80 Plus Gold there's the G-550.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1230 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($335.00 @ CPL Online)
Motherboard: ASRock H97M PRO4 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Blue 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($135.00 @ Umart)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.00 @ IJK)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.00 @ Umart)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 270 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($175.00 @ IJK)
Case: Silverstone PS08B (Black) MicroATX Mid Tower Case ($44.00 @ Umart)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($104.00 @ IJK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 OEM (64-bit) ($129.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Monitor: LG 22MP55HQ-P 60Hz 22.0" Monitor ($155.00 @ CPL Online)
Total: $1354.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-08-27 19:49 AEST+1000

But the most important thing:
WAIT ANOTHER WEEEK

can't wait to start bothering you

Can't wait to see if there's non-K and possibly non-Z overclocking and what results the usual suspects achieve with it.

Thanks for the quick response! Wasn't aware there were non-i7s with hyper-threading so that helps a lot. Does that motherboard leave room for a decent amount of expansion / is the case large enough that it's easy enough to work in?

In my build I bought everything new except my old GPU as I don't play any new games right now, so just wanted the capacity to beef up when I need it.

It's not that large, but it's acceptable. Not a lot of space for cable management behind the motherboard tray, but there is some which can't be taken for granted at that price. Dust filters aswell, though no modular drive bays.
With only one HDD I'd just stuff the cables in the empy drive bays and be done with it. With a modular PSU there shouldn't be a lot of them and it's the easiest and fastest method for this case.
The PSU is on top so I wouldn't use SLI/XFire for airflow reasons and you'd need a Z mobo for that anyway.

CPU: Intel Core i5 4460
Motherboard: ASUS H81M-CS LGA-1150
Power supply: Corsair VS Series VS450
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 500GB
RAM: 8 or 4 GB
GPU: GTX 750 Ti

Source relies on CPU anyways, not sure if I would buy a GPU. I just want something that wouldn't bottleneck

New cpus out yet? My friend wants me to help him with a new build.

Ya new i5/i7 non k versions are out (I think a bunch of i3's got released also but nfi)

I dont think the xeon i5/i7 equivalent versions are out yet tho

#608
Budget?
I would advise against the 750 Ti, there's a lot of AMD cards (260X, 265, 270, 270X, 370) with better performance that are cheaper and for TF2 you could even get away with less. So just use whatever's left of the budget.
Also don't get the VS450. It's ancient and doesn't even pass basic 80 Plus, let alone Bronze which is the minimum today.

And there's new CPUs now.

#609
They have been launched but availability isn't great yet.
Intel also refuses to send out review samples of anything other than the i7-6700K and i5-6600K so there's no reviews yet.

while we're on the subject is there any news on when the xeon i5/i7 equivalent versions are coming out?

Q4

http://blog-imgs-80.fc2.com/n/o/r/northwood/1507_D_OL33863.png

Cheers

Hopefully thats early q4 cause im looking to upgrade around november

Somewhere around ~450 USD. I already have a HDD and RAM, so I'm simply upgrading my CPU, motherboard, and GPU.

Yep, found a cheaper 260X, thanks.
The only game here is TF2 (and Dwarf Fortress, which only depends on a single core's CPU speed), so what would be the FPS difference if I switch from a i5 4460 to a i3 4160? The i3 4160 has a higher CPU clock speed, and more performance per core, when compared to the i5 4460, but has 2 cores instead of 4.

I'll be doing some benchmarks soon-ish to figure out how much more cores/HT really do for TF2.

You've already got the RAM but you don't know if it's 4 or 8GB?
It'll be difficult to hit the budget if you don't tell me the price of the 750 Ti.
What about case and PSU?

I was thinking about something like this:
OC:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G3258 3.2GHz Dual-Core Processor ($63.00 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper T4 70.0 CFM Rifle Bearing CPU Cooler ($14.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A (NFC Express Edition) ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($59.00 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $235.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-06 07:44 EDT-0400

No OC:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4370 3.8GHz Dual-Core Processor ($134.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A (NFC Express Edition) ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($59.00 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Asus Radeon R7 260X 2GB Video Card ($78.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $292.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-06 07:45 EDT-0400

H97M Anniversary if you want µATX.

The i3-6320 or lower should be an alternative once they become available.

It's a 4 GB 1333 Mhz stick.

The R7 260X costs $119.00
The 750 Ti costs $141.00
With how expensive the GPU here is in India, I don't think buying one is going to be a possibility :(

The PSU is a Corsair CX430. The case isn't much of a concern, I'm possibly buying an Antec VSK4000

So the revised specs are:
Intel i3 4130: $145.00
ASUS H81M-CS: $50.00
Corsair CX430: $50.00
Deepcool Tesseract Bf: $41.00

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GNMHMp

Didn't see the edit with the 260X, asking for the 750 Ti's price was unnecessary, sorry.

I'm 83% sure I can somehow manage. Just give me the real budget and links to the shop(s) you'll be buying from or a price comparision site.

So did you already buy PSU and case or not? Even if they are part of the budget I still can't see the problem.
Your revised specs + 119$ for a 260X = 405$.

Without considering cost, do you think I should currently go for a haswell or skylake i7? I'm looking to upgrade from my current i5. I'm only going to be using it for tf2 and obs.

edit: or would an overclocked i5 be more worth the money?

You'll have to decide what you're basing your decision on. Performance only or Price to Performance ratio.

I'll also need to know which model "your current i5" is.

@SETSUL

I would like to get your personal opinion on the new i5 6600k and i7 6700k, advantages and disadvantages of both in comparison to each other, and then any alternatives you would choose and why.

There is no specific application I am thinking of, I am just looking for general information.

Thanks brah you do good things for this community

my current i5 is a 3570k, that was rather dumb of me to not include that. sorry!

That said, if the performance increase of going to something like a skylake is MASSIVE then it will be worth the money to me.

#621
Why does this sound so much like an assignment to me?

I'm not sure what you expect, it's business as usual. Slightly lower overclocks and no Hyperthreading on the i5. The only advantage is obviously the price.

Alternatives same as always.
Don't need overclocking -> Non-K
Can't benefit from HT -> i5
Can benefit from HT but 90-95% of the performance of a non-oc'd i7 is fine -> Xeon

The only things that have changed is the lower end of high-end and the absolute high end short of LGA2011.
Lower non-K SKUs might be an alternative, depending on how well Skylake does with BCLK overclocking.

On the high end if you don't want/need DDR4 and the rest of the LGA1151 swag and live near a microcenter just forget about the 6700K. You can get an i7-4790K and a Z87-A for less than just the i7-6700K.

#622
i5 vs i5 there's really not much of a difference. So unless you suddenly absolutely need an overclocked i7 I wouldn't upgrade.
Just overclock the i5-3570K if you haven't done so already.

After waiting a few more months, I decided to revise a build on my 550 dollar budget, and after debating for awhile, I decided to go the AMD route. Just wondering if this is a sufficient build for my budget.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($96.89 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-D3P ATX AM3+/AM3 Motherboard ($62.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($41.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($50.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 270X 2GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($161.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Enermax ECA3253-BW ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Directron)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $499.71
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-17 16:10 EDT-0400

What are you going to be using it for? TF2?

Primarily for source games, and some current gen games on the side.

Why did you decide to go with a 3 years old AMD CPU for that?

What would be a smarter build for my budget then? My budget being 550 USD and the primary focus on Source games.

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i'm gonna be upgrading my computer in the winter and i'm currently looking at two potential builds.

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/dashsniper/saved/TXTgXL
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/dashsniper/saved/82hwrH

which one would be better for streaming and also running fairly new games at high settings? i'd also like to avoid having to upgrade for a while. i'm leaning towards the x99 of course (hexacore and 12 threads) but there are some people saying skylake provides better performance under certain circumstances. in addition, are the parts i chose for both builds good?

i would also like to overclock the cpu to at least 4ghz if not higher (was able to get to 4.5ghz with the cpu i use atm).

thanks!

edit: i'm also looking at the asus sabertooth x99, which is $80 more but is supposedly better than the one i have on my list. anyone have this board?

Who just -fragged everything? People ask questions because they don't know the answers. There are no dumb questions.

#628
Single threaded performance is king for games. 4 threads max, so Intel Haswell i3, i5 or even overclockable (-K) i5. Just tell me how fps on what settings in which "current gen games" you want to get so I can find the right balance between CPU and GPU. No point in squeezing an i5-4690K in there when you'd be dissapointed by the performance in everything but TF2. Settings CS:GO might help aswell, although it shouldn't be the limiting factor.

#629
1. The fans spinning fast isn't AMD's fault. There's fan curves/profiles for that.
2. The 212 is a loud cooler. If you wanted a quiet cooler, you should've bought a quiet one, not a loud one.
3. Removing all other fans just means that the case temperature will rise and the remaining fans will spin faster.

95W isn't that much, with the GPU disabled (why did you even get an APU) it's even less.

Never buy tray CPUs. No cooler and no warranty.

Do you gain anything from the higher bandwidth? If not there's no reason for DDR4.

Or you know you could get a Haswell i3 + mobo for 50$ less and still get 90-100% of the performance.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i3-4360 3.7GHz Dual-Core Processor ($169.00 @ CPL Online)
Motherboard: MSI B85M-E45 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($85.00 @ Centre Com)
Total: $254.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-20 22:25 AEST+1000

By the way your old build doesn't seem to have a PSU.

DDR4 brings a lot of architectural changes, but they are only important for the manufacturing.
2133MHz are still 2133MHz, you don't have to concern yourself with how manufacturers get there.

I can't 100% confirm that your memory will run at full speed on the mobo I recommended. Officially Haswell only supports 1.5V (according to Intel) and 1600MHz, but the board does support XMP (which is Intel btw) and apparently it worked for some people. I mean you could even overclock with that board (with a K CPU), even though B85 doesn't support (according to Intel), thanks to bug abuse, and Haswell definitely has no problem with 1.65V and 3000MHz RAM. Just because it's not officially supported doesn't mean it won't work. Unofficial support is just fine.

#630
When in winter?
Broadwell-E coming in Q1 2016.

6700K > 6600K >> 5820K for gaming.
5820K > 6700K >> 6600K for streaming.

I can stream 1080p 30/60fps (60 is really pushing it with only 3.5MBits/s to work with on twitch) on veryfast with an i7-4790K. The 5820K might allow you to go down to faster instead of veryfast, but faster won't do much in terms of quality. Keep in mind that the 5820K has a lower clockrate than both the 4790K and 6700K so it's definitely less than 50% more power you're looking at. It is highly questionable that this would make the difference between being able or not being able to use faster, which takes about 2-4 times the processing power of veryfast.

In other words for streaming and gaming I think the 5820K is a waste of money.
I don't think you'd benefit from DDR4 either, so unless you need more M.2 ports with the current motherboard prices for LGA1151 I don't see the appeal of skylake either.
280$ i7-4790K from microcenter, 60$ Z87-A from newegg, 40$ for 8GB DDR3 RAM if you even need new one and that's it. Why spent more than that if you get nothing in return.