Why would anyone use this when Scorch Shot exists
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Currently the only 3 niche reasons to use it are the following:
* it arcs so you can throw it to an area the Scorch Shot can't hit and someone else on your team can take advantage of it like your scout for some light extra damage.
* it can give pyros afterburn because reasons
Obviously none of these make it still super worth using since the weapon is pretty crap even with it flying through walls and stuff, but ya.
Currently the only 3 niche reasons to use it are the following:
* it arcs so you can throw it to an area the Scorch Shot can't hit and someone else on your team can take advantage of it like your scout for some light extra damage.
* it can give pyros afterburn because reasons
* [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOP5wRiyIp4]it apparently was given future tech that allows it to phase through a lot of walls if thrown properly.[/url]
Obviously none of these make it still super worth using since the weapon is pretty crap even with it flying through walls and stuff, but ya.
* it arcs so you can throw it to an area the Scorch Shot can't hit and someone else on your team can take advantage of it like your scout for some light extra damage.
* it can give pyros afterburn because reasons
* [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UOP5wRiyIp4]it apparently was given future tech that allows it to phase through a lot of walls if thrown properly.[/url]
Obviously none of these make it still super worth using since the weapon is pretty crap even with it flying through walls and stuff, but ya.
crabfwhy use the scorch shot when detonator exists
knockback, also a bit better at spamming chokes cuz you get the lingering shot if it his something
[quote=crabf]why use the scorch shot when detonator exists[/quote]
knockback, also a bit better at spamming chokes cuz you get the lingering shot if it his something
knockback, also a bit better at spamming chokes cuz you get the lingering shot if it his something
i think the only reaosn id ever use scorch shot is to hard counter cliff heavies on viaduct but det is betetr in every single way
i think the only reaosn id ever use scorch shot is to hard counter cliff heavies on viaduct but det is betetr in every single way
crabfwhy use the scorch shot when detonator exists
because splash
[quote=crabf]why use the scorch shot when detonator exists[/quote]
because splash
because splash
Gas Passer charges in setup time so it might be worth running to sac on Badwater first.
Also, it goes through some walls.
Also, what's nice about Scorch is that you don't have to hold it out for it to blow up, which means you can have more flamethrower uptime. Detonator is almost always better, but I can see Scorch being useful on certain maps where you don't need to jump or hit people / sticky traps above you that aren't on a sloped surface, like defending Metalworks last. It might also be good on Badlands, but I prefer Detonator so if I'm pushing out, I can jump Spire or hit people on pride rock from low ground.
Gas Passer charges in setup time so it might be worth running to sac on Badwater first.
Also, it goes through some walls.
Also, what's nice about Scorch is that you don't have to hold it out for it to blow up, which means you can have more flamethrower uptime. Detonator is almost always better, but I can see Scorch being useful on certain maps where you don't need to jump or hit people / sticky traps above you that aren't on a sloped surface, like defending Metalworks last. It might also be good on Badlands, but I prefer Detonator so if I'm pushing out, I can jump Spire or hit people on pride rock from low ground.
Also, it goes through some walls.
Also, what's nice about Scorch is that you don't have to hold it out for it to blow up, which means you can have more flamethrower uptime. Detonator is almost always better, but I can see Scorch being useful on certain maps where you don't need to jump or hit people / sticky traps above you that aren't on a sloped surface, like defending Metalworks last. It might also be good on Badlands, but I prefer Detonator so if I'm pushing out, I can jump Spire or hit people on pride rock from low ground.
crabfi think the only reaosn id ever use scorch shot is to hard counter cliff heavies on viaduct but det is betetr in every single way
It's better but it requires more aiming when scorch shot is "fire and forget"
and det doesnt do knockback
[quote=crabf]i think the only reaosn id ever use scorch shot is to hard counter cliff heavies on viaduct but det is betetr in every single way[/quote]
It's better but it requires more aiming when scorch shot is "fire and forget"
and det doesnt do knockback
It's better but it requires more aiming when scorch shot is "fire and forget"
and det doesnt do knockback
Twiggycrabfi think the only reaosn id ever use scorch shot is to hard counter cliff heavies on viaduct but det is betetr in every single wayIt's better but it requires more aiming when scorch shot is "fire and forget"
and det doesnt do knockback
basically scorch shot is only better when you are jiggle peeking
[quote=Twiggy][quote=crabf]i think the only reaosn id ever use scorch shot is to hard counter cliff heavies on viaduct but det is betetr in every single way[/quote]
It's better but it requires more aiming when scorch shot is "fire and forget"
and det doesnt do knockback[/quote]
basically scorch shot is only better when you are jiggle peeking
It's better but it requires more aiming when scorch shot is "fire and forget"
and det doesnt do knockback[/quote]
basically scorch shot is only better when you are jiggle peeking
jdmTwiggycrabfi think the only reaosn id ever use scorch shot is to hard counter cliff heavies on viaduct but det is betetr in every single wayIt's better but it requires more aiming when scorch shot is "fire and forget"
and det doesnt do knockback
basically scorch shot is only better when you are jiggle peeking
If you direct hit a player with the scorch shot the flare will linger in the air and then fall back down a ways before exploding (it hits twice, basically). In this regard, it remains very valuable to spam chokes/point when coupled with its ability to juggle players with its knock back. Additionally you can switch back to your flamethrower while flares are on CD to reflect/use flames. I think the main reason the detonator is better is that it gives you more mobility and its a lot easier to hit mid-air stuff, but the scorch shot is a lot more versatile than players generally give it credit for.
[quote=jdm][quote=Twiggy][quote=crabf]i think the only reaosn id ever use scorch shot is to hard counter cliff heavies on viaduct but det is betetr in every single way[/quote]
It's better but it requires more aiming when scorch shot is "fire and forget"
and det doesnt do knockback[/quote]
basically scorch shot is only better when you are jiggle peeking[/quote]
If you direct hit a player with the scorch shot the flare will linger in the air and then fall back down a ways before exploding (it hits twice, basically). In this regard, it remains very valuable to spam chokes/point when coupled with its ability to juggle players with its knock back. Additionally you can switch back to your flamethrower while flares are on CD to reflect/use flames. I think the main reason the detonator is better is that it gives you more mobility and its a lot easier to hit mid-air stuff, but the scorch shot is a lot more versatile than players generally give it credit for.
It's better but it requires more aiming when scorch shot is "fire and forget"
and det doesnt do knockback[/quote]
basically scorch shot is only better when you are jiggle peeking[/quote]
If you direct hit a player with the scorch shot the flare will linger in the air and then fall back down a ways before exploding (it hits twice, basically). In this regard, it remains very valuable to spam chokes/point when coupled with its ability to juggle players with its knock back. Additionally you can switch back to your flamethrower while flares are on CD to reflect/use flames. I think the main reason the detonator is better is that it gives you more mobility and its a lot easier to hit mid-air stuff, but the scorch shot is a lot more versatile than players generally give it credit for.
Daffodil-jdmIf you direct hit a player with the scorch shot the flare will linger in the air and then fall back down a ways before exploding (it hits twice, basically). In this regard, it remains very valuable to spam chokes/point when coupled with its ability to juggle players with its knock back. Additionally you can switch back to your flamethrower while flares are on CD to reflect/use flames. I think the main reason the detonator is better is that it gives you more mobility and its a lot easier to hit mid-air stuff, but the scorch shot is a lot more versatile than players generally give it credit for.Twiggycrabfi think the only reaosn id ever use scorch shot is to hard counter cliff heavies on viaduct but det is betetr in every single wayIt's better but it requires more aiming when scorch shot is "fire and forget"
and det doesnt do knockback
basically scorch shot is only better when you are jiggle peeking
what daffodil said, if u have ever been hit by the scorch shot twice u would realize that it can do ~100 damage if not extinguished. and that's if you weren't already on fire.
[quote=Daffodil-][quote=jdm][quote=Twiggy][quote=crabf]i think the only reaosn id ever use scorch shot is to hard counter cliff heavies on viaduct but det is betetr in every single way[/quote]
It's better but it requires more aiming when scorch shot is "fire and forget"
and det doesnt do knockback[/quote]
basically scorch shot is only better when you are jiggle peeking[/quote]
If you direct hit a player with the scorch shot the flare will linger in the air and then fall back down a ways before exploding (it hits twice, basically). In this regard, it remains very valuable to spam chokes/point when coupled with its ability to juggle players with its knock back. Additionally you can switch back to your flamethrower while flares are on CD to reflect/use flames. I think the main reason the detonator is better is that it gives you more mobility and its a lot easier to hit mid-air stuff, but the scorch shot is a lot more versatile than players generally give it credit for.[/quote]
what daffodil said, if u have ever been hit by the scorch shot twice u would realize that it can do ~100 damage if not extinguished. and that's if you weren't already on fire.
It's better but it requires more aiming when scorch shot is "fire and forget"
and det doesnt do knockback[/quote]
basically scorch shot is only better when you are jiggle peeking[/quote]
If you direct hit a player with the scorch shot the flare will linger in the air and then fall back down a ways before exploding (it hits twice, basically). In this regard, it remains very valuable to spam chokes/point when coupled with its ability to juggle players with its knock back. Additionally you can switch back to your flamethrower while flares are on CD to reflect/use flames. I think the main reason the detonator is better is that it gives you more mobility and its a lot easier to hit mid-air stuff, but the scorch shot is a lot more versatile than players generally give it credit for.[/quote]
what daffodil said, if u have ever been hit by the scorch shot twice u would realize that it can do ~100 damage if not extinguished. and that's if you weren't already on fire.
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