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Your only real major point in defense of elijah is just trying to prove bias against your team. Frankly its not bias against your team its just admins paying more attention to your team because of all the fucking drama surrounding it considering you had now three fucking people banned for cheating on it. If anything it seems more likely both your incidents are just bias towards HRTeam cause mopsy was an admin at the time.
RGL would have looked pretty fucking stupid if they had to ban their own admin for breaking rules they should have known, and instead most likely just hoped to push it under the rug. Which is fucking stupid and its own issue entirely.
Your first incident doesn't even make a very good case either since it quite literally happened nearly a month before the HRTeam situation.
The issue is not your team being treated unfairly by being held to the rules, it's HRTeam being treated with kid gloves and being allowed to disregard the rules with no consequences. Which is more of an affront the people who pay money to play in this league just to witness multiple cases of incompetence of the admin team. The rules were not applied evenly when they should have been, but all your teams infractions were clear cut with the rules broken. Your only grievance really is that HRTeam wasn't penalized, claiming bias is just a poor excuse for defending cheaters.
Honestly the entire testimonies section of this is a fucking joke. It straight up is just entirely fucking meaningless. If I wanted to I'm sure I could get just as many and probably more "testimonies" against elijah, but it doesn't fucking matter for a really simple reason.
No one you asked, and no one I could ask is part of the anti-cheat team. You're exactly right in what you say, its all opinions and opinions are fucking worthless.
And on the topic of the demos, just cause it makes me fucking laugh every time I read it. How the hell do you play competitive TF2 this long and think you only have to record demos for playoffs. That's straight up just a worse excuse than saying you didn't think you had to record them at all. Why the hell would you think it would only matter in playoffs?
Now how about for a change I put out some of my own opinions. You and your team played an entire season of TF2 with at least two and at the end three cheaters, I don't believe for a second that all of you were blissfully unaware of the fact they could have been cheating. Your team literally picked up feno while the consensus of most people was that he was cheating. Frankly I think you probably did know and your entire team should be given a one season ban just for that. Unfortunately the way this community handles cheating is a fucking joke and even the thought of penalizing people for playing with cheaters is "too far," so I'm sure people will have fun shitting on me for that opinion. Not like I could give a single fuck.
TLDR: RGL admins are incompetent, you played with three cheaters and got burned, go fuck yourself and get the hell out of here
edit: fixed your/you're issues
Your only real major point in defense of elijah is just trying to prove bias against your team. Frankly its not bias against your team its just admins paying more attention to your team because of all the fucking drama surrounding it considering you had now three fucking people banned for cheating on it. If anything it seems more likely both your incidents are just bias towards HRTeam cause mopsy was an admin at the time.
RGL would have looked pretty fucking stupid if they had to ban their own admin for breaking rules they should have known, and instead most likely just hoped to push it under the rug. Which is fucking stupid and its own issue entirely.
Your first incident doesn't even make a very good case either since it quite literally happened nearly a month before the HRTeam situation.
The issue is not your team being treated unfairly by being held to the rules, it's HRTeam being treated with kid gloves and being allowed to disregard the rules with no consequences. Which is more of an affront the people who pay money to play in this league just to witness multiple cases of incompetence of the admin team. The rules were not applied evenly when they should have been, but all your teams infractions were clear cut with the rules broken. Your only grievance really is that HRTeam wasn't penalized, claiming bias is just a poor excuse for defending cheaters.
Honestly the entire testimonies section of this is a fucking joke. It straight up is just entirely fucking meaningless. If I wanted to I'm sure I could get just as many and probably more "testimonies" against elijah, but it doesn't fucking matter for a really simple reason.
No one you asked, and no one I could ask is part of the anti-cheat team. You're exactly right in what you say, its all opinions and opinions are fucking worthless.
And on the topic of the demos, just cause it makes me fucking laugh every time I read it. How the hell do you play competitive TF2 this long and think you only have to record demos for playoffs. That's straight up just a worse excuse than saying you didn't think you had to record them at all. Why the hell would you think it would only matter in playoffs?
Now how about for a change I put out some of my own opinions. You and your team played an entire season of TF2 with at least two and at the end three cheaters, I don't believe for a second that all of you were blissfully unaware of the fact they could have been cheating. Your team literally picked up feno while the consensus of most people was that he was cheating. Frankly I think you probably did know and your entire team should be given a one season ban just for that. Unfortunately the way this community handles cheating is a fucking joke and even the thought of penalizing people for playing with cheaters is "too far," so I'm sure people will have fun shitting on me for that opinion. Not like I could give a single fuck.
TLDR: RGL admins are incompetent, you played with three cheaters and got burned, go fuck yourself and get the hell out of here
edit: fixed your/you're issues
RGL would have looked pretty fucking stupid if they had to ban their own admin for breaking rules they should have known, and instead most likely just hoped to push it under the rug. Which is fucking stupid and its own issue entirely.
Your first incident doesn't even make a very good case either since it quite literally happened nearly a month before the HRTeam situation.
The issue is not your team being treated unfairly by being held to the rules, it's HRTeam being treated with kid gloves and being allowed to disregard the rules with no consequences. Which is more of an affront the people who pay money to play in this league just to witness multiple cases of incompetence of the admin team. The rules were not applied evenly when they should have been, but all your teams infractions were clear cut with the rules broken. Your only grievance really is that HRTeam wasn't penalized, claiming bias is just a poor excuse for defending cheaters.
Honestly the entire testimonies section of this is a fucking joke. It straight up is just entirely fucking meaningless. If I wanted to I'm sure I could get just as many and probably more "testimonies" against elijah, but it doesn't fucking matter for a really simple reason.
No one you asked, and no one I could ask is part of the anti-cheat team. You're exactly right in what you say, its all opinions and opinions are fucking worthless.
And on the topic of the demos, just cause it makes me fucking laugh every time I read it. How the hell do you play competitive TF2 this long and think you only have to record demos for playoffs. That's straight up just a worse excuse than saying you didn't think you had to record them at all. Why the hell would you think it would only matter in playoffs?
Now how about for a change I put out some of my own opinions. You and your team played an entire season of TF2 with at least two and at the end three cheaters, I don't believe for a second that all of you were blissfully unaware of the fact they could have been cheating. Your team literally picked up feno while the consensus of most people was that he was cheating. Frankly I think you probably did know and your entire team should be given a one season ban just for that. Unfortunately the way this community handles cheating is a fucking joke and even the thought of penalizing people for playing with cheaters is "too far," so I'm sure people will have fun shitting on me for that opinion. Not like I could give a single fuck.
TLDR: RGL admins are incompetent, you played with three cheaters and got burned, go fuck yourself and get the hell out of here
edit: fixed your/you're issues
mintyxdEli submits hundreds of demos, he streams with a three-way split between his game capture, a webcam capture of his monitor, and a capture of his keyboard inputs and then ends the streams by slowly scrolling over the list of all programs executed while he was playing TF2.[/url]
You posted evidence of someone getting caught on stream showing that streaming to catch people is semi-effective.
[quote=mintyxd]Eli submits hundreds of demos, he streams with a three-way split between his game capture, a webcam capture of his monitor, and a capture of his keyboard inputs and then ends the streams by slowly scrolling over the list of all programs executed while he was playing TF2.[/url][/quote]
You posted evidence of someone getting caught on stream showing that streaming to catch people is semi-effective.
You posted evidence of someone getting caught on stream showing that streaming to catch people is semi-effective.
playmoTLDR: RGL admins are incompetent, you played with three cheaters and got burned, go fuck yourself and get the hell out of here
Gotta be the biggest fuck you I've ever read on tftv
[quote=playmo]TLDR: RGL admins are incompetent, you played with three cheaters and got burned, go fuck yourself and get the hell out of here[/quote]
Gotta be the biggest fuck you I've ever read on tftv
Gotta be the biggest fuck you I've ever read on tftv
playmostuff
HRTeam was suddenly thrust into playoffs because of the cheater team being removed from the season, that is entirely different than RKT leaving the team after rosters locked because he didn't want to play anymore. HRTeam needed a replacement for Slin because he wasn't planning on playing after the regular season ended, because they were clearly at the time not going to make playoffs. He doesn't even have a single log since he played his last match. HRTeam got explicit approval from the other team and the admins to ring exile for playoffs because of the situation caused by no name being removed. It is true that the ringer wasn't put into match comms, but with the level of communication between the admins and the teams completely makes that irrelevant.
Edit: i think i misread what playmo said but just pretend i responded to urmphi
[quote=playmo]stuff [/quote]
HRTeam was suddenly thrust into playoffs because of the cheater team being removed from the season, that is entirely different than RKT leaving the team after rosters locked because he didn't want to play anymore. HRTeam needed a replacement for Slin because he wasn't planning on playing after the regular season ended, because they were clearly at the time not going to make playoffs. He doesn't even have a single log since he played his last match. HRTeam got explicit approval from the other team and the admins to ring exile for playoffs because of the situation caused by no name being removed. It is true that the ringer wasn't put into match comms, but with the level of communication between the admins and the teams completely makes that irrelevant.
Edit: i think i misread what playmo said but just pretend i responded to urmphi
HRTeam was suddenly thrust into playoffs because of the cheater team being removed from the season, that is entirely different than RKT leaving the team after rosters locked because he didn't want to play anymore. HRTeam needed a replacement for Slin because he wasn't planning on playing after the regular season ended, because they were clearly at the time not going to make playoffs. He doesn't even have a single log since he played his last match. HRTeam got explicit approval from the other team and the admins to ring exile for playoffs because of the situation caused by no name being removed. It is true that the ringer wasn't put into match comms, but with the level of communication between the admins and the teams completely makes that irrelevant.
Edit: i think i misread what playmo said but just pretend i responded to urmphi
Cleanbuddy okay'd exile to ring so there isn't an argument there, and the RGL staff as we know them are completely separate from the RGL AC team so the entire paper doesn't really have a point to stand on. All elijah can do is wait out his ban and just not cheat again.
Cleanbuddy okay'd exile to ring so there isn't an argument there, and the RGL staff as we know them are completely separate from the RGL AC team so the entire paper doesn't really have a point to stand on. All elijah can do is wait out his ban and just not cheat again.
ShiningStarstuff
Fair enough if that was the case. Still should require quite a bit more transparency from the admins to avoid giving the impression of bias, and to also make it clear that it is an option to other teams in the future should a similar situation arise. They also did post the ringer info in the first match but not the second so it really makes it seems like they knew the rule and forgot or ignored it the second match. I don't think any level of communication between admins and teams is an excuse for ignoring a rule. Not like it was a hard thing to do either.
Also the only edit I made was changing the first 'You're' to a 'Your'
[quote=ShiningStar]stuff[/quote]
Fair enough if that was the case. Still should require quite a bit more transparency from the admins to avoid giving the impression of bias, and to also make it clear that it is an option to other teams in the future should a similar situation arise. They also did post the ringer info in the first match but not the second so it really makes it seems like they knew the rule and forgot or ignored it the second match. I don't think any level of communication between admins and teams is an excuse for ignoring a rule. Not like it was a hard thing to do either.
Also the only edit I made was changing the first 'You're' to a 'Your'
Fair enough if that was the case. Still should require quite a bit more transparency from the admins to avoid giving the impression of bias, and to also make it clear that it is an option to other teams in the future should a similar situation arise. They also did post the ringer info in the first match but not the second so it really makes it seems like they knew the rule and forgot or ignored it the second match. I don't think any level of communication between admins and teams is an excuse for ignoring a rule. Not like it was a hard thing to do either.
Also the only edit I made was changing the first 'You're' to a 'Your'
playmo stuff
Ya I may have misread what you were saying and mistook it for what urmphi originally said.
[quote=playmo] stuff [/quote]
Ya I may have misread what you were saying and mistook it for what urmphi originally said.
Ya I may have misread what you were saying and mistook it for what urmphi originally said.
playmo You and your team played an entire season of TF2 with at least two and at the end three cheaters, I don't believe for a second that all of you were blissfully unaware of the fact they could have been cheating. Your team literally picked up feno while the consensus of most people was that he was cheating.
It was very obvious that elijah, kevito, and urmphi did know that frkshw was cheating.
[quote=playmo] You and your team played an entire season of TF2 with at least two and at the end three cheaters, I don't believe for a second that all of you were blissfully unaware of the fact they could have been cheating. Your team literally picked up feno while the consensus of most people was that he was cheating.[/quote]
It was very obvious that elijah, kevito, and urmphi did know that frkshw was cheating.
It was very obvious that elijah, kevito, and urmphi did know that frkshw was cheating.
ElenaManettamintyxdEli submits hundreds of demos, he streams with a three-way split between his game capture, a webcam capture of his monitor, and a capture of his keyboard inputs and then ends the streams by slowly scrolling over the list of all programs executed while he was playing TF2.[/url]
You posted evidence of someone getting caught on stream showing that streaming to catch people is semi-effective.
That does not mean streaming proves that someone doesn't cheat
[quote=ElenaManetta][quote=mintyxd]Eli submits hundreds of demos, he streams with a three-way split between his game capture, a webcam capture of his monitor, and a capture of his keyboard inputs and then ends the streams by slowly scrolling over the list of all programs executed while he was playing TF2.[/url][/quote]
You posted evidence of someone getting caught on stream showing that streaming to catch people is semi-effective.[/quote]
That does not mean streaming proves that someone doesn't cheat
You posted evidence of someone getting caught on stream showing that streaming to catch people is semi-effective.[/quote]
That does not mean streaming proves that someone doesn't cheat
unless of course, their wallhacks show up on their monitor LOL
unless of course, their wallhacks show up on their monitor LOL
Elijah is innocent enough has been said a wise man once said."The better you are the more people hate."
Elijah is innocent enough has been said a wise man once said."The better you are the more people hate."
Young_SanityvFactsMachineElijah's a racist homophobic piece of shit that only pretends to be nice to your face if he wants something from you. He should be banned for that alone.What are these lies. Before all of this no one thought elijah cheated intill he joined no name. I think he was just hanging out with the wrong people at the wrong time. Now he's serving a punishment for hanging out with those bad people. My man grinded in ugc and in rgl over and over he's winning tourneys constantly he's earned his way to the top. Rgl is just robbing this man of 2 years.
All I wanted to do was play the fucking game. I couldn't even do that my mental health has been fucked by this community. I don't know why i Kept staying. I kept saying inside it will get better. It never got better it kept getting worse and worse. Im sorry slug, alceus, and my fans. I couldn't hold up long enough. Im sorry to anyone who looked up to me. Im sorry for wasting peoples time by trying to mentor me.I couldn't keep going on I'm sorry. To all thoese people who were on the hate young man dick train you won for now. Ill be back when this game really needs me which I doubt it does better without me.
[quote=Young_Sanityv][quote=FactsMachine]Elijah's a racist homophobic piece of shit that only pretends to be nice to your face if he wants something from you. He should be banned for that alone.[/quote] What are these lies. Before all of this no one thought elijah cheated intill he joined no name. I think he was just hanging out with the wrong people at the wrong time. Now he's serving a punishment for hanging out with those bad people. My man grinded in ugc and in rgl over and over he's winning tourneys constantly he's earned his way to the top. Rgl is just robbing this man of 2 years.[/quote]
All I wanted to do was play the fucking game. I couldn't even do that my mental health has been fucked by this community. I don't know why i Kept staying. I kept saying inside it will get better. It never got better it kept getting worse and worse. Im sorry slug, alceus, and my fans. I couldn't hold up long enough. Im sorry to anyone who looked up to me. Im sorry for wasting peoples time by trying to mentor me.I couldn't keep going on I'm sorry. To all thoese people who were on the hate young man dick train you won for now. Ill be back when this game really needs me which I doubt it does better without me.
All I wanted to do was play the fucking game. I couldn't even do that my mental health has been fucked by this community. I don't know why i Kept staying. I kept saying inside it will get better. It never got better it kept getting worse and worse. Im sorry slug, alceus, and my fans. I couldn't hold up long enough. Im sorry to anyone who looked up to me. Im sorry for wasting peoples time by trying to mentor me.I couldn't keep going on I'm sorry. To all thoese people who were on the hate young man dick train you won for now. Ill be back when this game really needs me which I doubt it does better without me.
any time cheating shitshow comes up, i miss miggy coming into the thread and calling everyone stupid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0rk2ROJF-s
rip legend
any time cheating shitshow comes up, i miss miggy coming into the thread and calling everyone stupid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0rk2ROJF-s
rip legend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0rk2ROJF-s
rip legend
Young_SanityvElijah is innocent enough has been said a wise man once said."The better you are the more people hate."
why are you still defending the cheater
[quote=Young_Sanityv]Elijah is innocent enough has been said a wise man once said."The better you are the more people hate."[/quote]
why are you still defending the cheater
why are you still defending the cheater
dolpginhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB1G4jEWK7o
ropz situation: random players suggest he might be cheating, so admins look at evidence and decide he isn't
elijah situation: admins look at evidence and decide he's cheating, so random players suggest he might not be
[quote=dolpgin]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jB1G4jEWK7o[/quote]
ropz situation: random players suggest he might be cheating, so admins look at evidence and decide he isn't
elijah situation: admins look at evidence and decide he's cheating, so random players suggest he might not be
ropz situation: random players suggest he might be cheating, so admins look at evidence and decide he isn't
elijah situation: admins look at evidence and decide he's cheating, so random players suggest he might not be
how the fuck do you even deduce that we as public should get the "proof" after that gabe quote that basically says the opposite. Either incredibly retarded or just malicious.
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how the fuck do you even deduce that we as public should get the "proof" after that gabe quote that basically says the opposite. Either incredibly retarded or just malicious. [spoiler]probably both[/spoiler]
Random people who don't know how AC works think they know more than AC Admins, more at 11.
Random people who don't know how AC works think they know more than AC Admins, more at 11.
legendary bread, as someone who played with freakshw (mxr) season 21 steel hl, mf was using no sniper scope script forever bro, been cheating since day numero uno, and if there was as much of a circlejerk between the two as ur sayin, im not buyin shit lole
also vac is dogshit LMAO
legendary bread, as someone who played with freakshw (mxr) season 21 steel hl, mf was using no sniper scope script forever bro, been cheating since day numero uno, and if there was as much of a circlejerk between the two as ur sayin, im not buyin shit lole
also vac is dogshit LMAO
also vac is dogshit LMAO
frosttyiino sniper scope script
remember when someone posted a stream highlight of nomi using this in a pug
[quote=frosttyii]no sniper scope script[/quote]
remember when someone posted a stream highlight of nomi using this in a pug
remember when someone posted a stream highlight of nomi using this in a pug
glassfrosttyiino sniper scope scriptremember when someone posted a stream highlight of nomi using this in a pug
remember when yerb got banned an entire season and then they just removed the rule about it after an invite player was using it in a pub?
[quote=glass][quote=frosttyii]no sniper scope script[/quote]
remember when someone posted a stream highlight of nomi using this in a pug[/quote]
remember when yerb got banned an entire season and then they just removed the rule about it after an invite player was using it in a pub?
remember when someone posted a stream highlight of nomi using this in a pug[/quote]
remember when yerb got banned an entire season and then they just removed the rule about it after an invite player was using it in a pub?
playmoyou played with three cheaters and got burned, go fuck yourself and get the hell out of here
BASED, award this user a doctorate in English language for the amazing write up they just did.
[quote=playmo]you played with three cheaters and got burned, go fuck yourself and get the hell out of here[/quote]
BASED, award this user a doctorate in English language for the amazing write up they just did.
BASED, award this user a doctorate in English language for the amazing write up they just did.
Air_glassfrosttyiino sniper scope scriptremember when someone posted a stream highlight of nomi using this in a pug
remember when yerb got banned an entire season and then they just removed the rule about it after an invite player was using it in a pub?
Laz wasnt using the sniper scope script. Lower dx levels can cause the tab scoreboard menu to override the sniper scope overlay, which isnt the same thing.
Im assuming thats what ur talking about cuz I remember somebody dming me a clip where he pressed tab while scoped in an upward pub.
[quote=Air_][quote=glass][quote=frosttyii]no sniper scope script[/quote]
remember when someone posted a stream highlight of nomi using this in a pug[/quote]
remember when yerb got banned an entire season and then they just removed the rule about it after an invite player was using it in a pub?[/quote]
Laz wasnt using the sniper scope script. Lower dx levels can cause the tab scoreboard menu to override the sniper scope overlay, which isnt the same thing.
Im assuming thats what ur talking about cuz I remember somebody dming me a clip where he pressed tab while scoped in an upward pub.
remember when someone posted a stream highlight of nomi using this in a pug[/quote]
remember when yerb got banned an entire season and then they just removed the rule about it after an invite player was using it in a pub?[/quote]
Laz wasnt using the sniper scope script. Lower dx levels can cause the tab scoreboard menu to override the sniper scope overlay, which isnt the same thing.
Im assuming thats what ur talking about cuz I remember somebody dming me a clip where he pressed tab while scoped in an upward pub.
UGC's official response to the situation.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pDJWQ1rBudhXZG8K8Q6QSvY6t8Uwdszx5WVnXVo_PFA/edit
UGC's official response to the situation.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pDJWQ1rBudhXZG8K8Q6QSvY6t8Uwdszx5WVnXVo_PFA/edit
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pDJWQ1rBudhXZG8K8Q6QSvY6t8Uwdszx5WVnXVo_PFA/edit
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