ZestytibbyMost niche internet communities naturally breed a toxic environment. I've been on forums for various sciences I'm interested in and even those have toxicity and mob mentality. Would I say the paleontology community is toxic because of said forums? Definitely not. I will say the situation in TF2 is generally better than games where you're playing competitive on a ladder system, because reputation is a factor at play. I've had my run ins with groups of toxic people before, but if you keep to yourself and don't antagonize them you'll generally be just fine. More often than not you'll be able to find a team with an environment that suits your personality, and you'll be able to meet great people through that medium.
Where are the paleontology forums at though I want to see the arguments when they drop the new Ediacaran biota.
if you got bones stfu
[quote=Zesty][quote=tibby]Most niche internet communities naturally breed a toxic environment. I've been on forums for various sciences I'm interested in and even those have toxicity and mob mentality. Would I say the paleontology community is toxic because of said forums? Definitely not. I will say the situation in TF2 is generally better than games where you're playing competitive on a ladder system, because reputation is a factor at play. I've had my run ins with groups of toxic people before, but if you keep to yourself and don't antagonize them you'll generally be just fine. More often than not you'll be able to find a team with an environment that suits your personality, and you'll be able to meet great people through that medium.[/quote]
Where are the paleontology forums at though I want to see the arguments when they drop the new Ediacaran biota.[/quote]
if you got bones stfu
ediacarans didn't have bones :)
ediacarans didn't have bones :)
I'm honestly amazed that an elliott thread managed to survive this long without being dumpstered
I'm honestly amazed that an elliott thread managed to survive this long without being dumpstered
man, racism is everywhere. Of course it's still racist bruh
man, racism is everywhere. Of course it's still racist bruh
this question was answered in the worst way ngl
this question was answered in the worst way ngl
its the internet how can u not expect niggas just saying and doing whatever lmfao
its the internet how can u not expect niggas just saying and doing whatever lmfao
i was wondering the same thing elliot. after some sociological research im gonna say "yes"
i was wondering the same thing elliot. after some sociological research im gonna say "yes"
Still kinda racist, but it's better with RGL restricting slurs and the like. You still have the toxic circlejerks (most of which are banned from playing in RGL) harassing you for being gay/trans or whatever, but at least now there's some kind of consequence.
Still kinda racist, but it's better with RGL restricting slurs and the like. You still have the toxic circlejerks (most of which are banned from playing in RGL) harassing you for being gay/trans or whatever, but at least now there's some kind of consequence.
where is juju in these trying times
where is juju in these trying times
FactsMachineStill kinda racist, but it's better with RGL restricting slurs and the like. You still have the toxic circlejerks (most of which are banned from playing in RGL) harassing you for being gay/trans or whatever, but at least now there's some kind of consequence.
last time i recall actual vocal racist people playing was about 5 years ago, and it was overwatch that caused them to move on, definitely not rgl Lmfaoo. U ppl cant separate actual racists vs racist banter because the former hasnt existed in ages, for the most part anyways. as funny as i find safrix getting banned for saying "Huff And Puff And Blow That Nibber Down" its not doing favors for anyone.
[quote=FactsMachine]Still kinda racist, but it's better with RGL restricting slurs and the like. You still have the toxic circlejerks (most of which are banned from playing in RGL) harassing you for being gay/trans or whatever, but at least now there's some kind of consequence.[/quote]
last time i recall actual vocal racist people playing was about 5 years ago, and it was overwatch that caused them to move on, definitely not rgl Lmfaoo. U ppl cant separate actual racists vs racist banter because the former hasnt existed in ages, for the most part anyways. as funny as i find safrix getting banned for saying "Huff And Puff And Blow That Nibber Down" its not doing favors for anyone.
TLDR
u choose who to associate w
theres retards in every community, if u fin durself surrounded by racists and homophobes ur porbably one
TLDR
u choose who to associate w
theres retards in every community, if u fin durself surrounded by racists and homophobes ur porbably one
carnaticumTLDR
u choose who to associate w
theres retards in every community, if u fin durself surrounded by racists and homophobes ur porbably one
[quote=carnaticum]TLDR
u choose who to associate w
theres retards in every community, if u fin durself surrounded by racists and homophobes ur porbably one[/quote]
yeah my thing is, if someone says something that i find offensive or hurtful... i just don't play with them anymore?
like no one is making me play w/ folks that say racist stuff/ gay slurs/ transphobic shit/ etc. there are great ppl @ every level. there are also terrible ppl @ p much every level
yeah my thing is, if someone says something that i find offensive or hurtful... i just don't play with them anymore?
like no one is making me play w/ folks that say racist stuff/ gay slurs/ transphobic shit/ etc. there are great ppl @ every level. there are also terrible ppl @ p much every level
carnaticumif u fin durself surrounded by racists and homophobes ur porbably one
this would be true for a game that's bigger like a csgo or rocket league or someshit like that, i've seen many times an admin kick/ban someone from a pug group but they couldn't get 12 ppl to start pugs bc of it.
if u want to play 6s outside of matches/scrims where you don't have to interact with the people outside ur team, ur gonna have to deal with a stinker or 2
[quote=carnaticum]if u fin durself surrounded by racists and homophobes ur porbably one[/quote]
this would be true for a game that's bigger like a csgo or rocket league or someshit like that, i've seen many times an admin kick/ban someone from a pug group but they couldn't get 12 ppl to start pugs bc of it.
if u want to play 6s outside of matches/scrims where you don't have to interact with the people outside ur team, ur gonna have to deal with a stinker or 2
will you survive the TF2 Survive San Andreas Challenge?
will you survive the TF2 Survive San Andreas Challenge?
As far as racism goes, not once have I experienced any sort of derogatory discrimination thrown at me, atleast in the comp community. (Shoutouts to ALL the french people I have ever met, all of which have been the kindest to me wherever I interact with them!)
Now, even though it's not explicitly stated in the question, concerning transphobia - I have come across individuals who have been actively transphobic towards friends and non-friends of mine, so there is still an issue there.
People need to control what they say, understand others more and just make sure they give others a fun time to enjoy playing video games - one day...
As far as racism goes, not once have I experienced any sort of derogatory discrimination thrown at me, atleast in the comp community. (Shoutouts to ALL the french people I have ever met, all of which have been the kindest to me wherever I interact with them!)
Now, even though it's not explicitly stated in the question, concerning transphobia - I have come across individuals who have been actively transphobic towards friends and non-friends of mine, so there is still an issue there.
People need to control what they say, understand others more and just make sure they give others a fun time to enjoy playing video games - one day...
any community would have racism to a certain extent
any community would have racism to a certain extent
I'm pretty sure The Game is a black man himself so i wouldn't know, Very nice artist btw
I'm pretty sure The Game is a black man himself so i wouldn't know, Very nice artist btw
carnaticumTLDR
u choose who to associate w
theres retards in every community, if u fin durself surrounded by racists and homophobes ur porbably one
as someone who grew up in the poorest conditions thinkable (for a first world country) and grew up in a neighbourhood with extreme right friends and immigrant children, this statement seems so alien to me. how about you adopt some tolerance for the intolerant? As in being able to frankly tell them why they are wrong without dehumanizing them. Or is that too hard for the average american... even in online community sometimes you dont get to choose, for example when you trial for a cool team and then it turns out some of them spout wrongthink. You gonna leave, or make them leave? heck no.
[quote=carnaticum]TLDR
u choose who to associate w
theres retards in every community, if u fin durself surrounded by racists and homophobes ur porbably one[/quote]
as someone who grew up in the poorest conditions thinkable (for a first world country) and grew up in a neighbourhood with extreme right friends and immigrant children, this statement seems so alien to me. how about you adopt some tolerance for the intolerant? As in being able to frankly tell them why they are wrong without dehumanizing them. Or is that too hard for the average american... even in online community sometimes you dont get to choose, for example when you trial for a cool team and then it turns out some of them spout wrongthink. You gonna leave, or make them leave? heck no.
i would actually not play video games w someone who wants to commit genocide but you do you my man
i would actually not play video games w someone who wants to commit genocide but you do you my man
eeei would actually not play video games w someone who wants to commit genocide but you do you my man
what do you think you are doing when you wipe a team on mid?
[quote=eee]i would actually not play video games w someone who wants to commit genocide but you do you my man[/quote]
what do you think you are doing when you wipe a team on mid?
i hate to say it but if you get offended over banter then you should not be playing this game as its domination lines can be equally as "bad". there is a difference between making a slightly offensive joke and being full blown obnoxious tho, and dumbasses are everywhere
i hate to say it but if you get offended over banter then you should not be playing this game as its domination lines can be equally as "bad". there is a difference between making a slightly offensive joke and being full blown obnoxious tho, and dumbasses are everywhere
sacYou gonna leave
yes lol
also would you mind characterizing what you describe as "wrongthink," because i feel like that usually translates to "casual racism and transphobia"
[quote=sac]You gonna leave[/quote]
yes lol
also would you mind characterizing what you describe as "wrongthink," because i feel like that usually translates to "casual racism and transphobia"
well if you are surrounded by racists and homophobes, its wrongthink to be a non-racist gay dude.. wrongthink is defined by the societal group you surround yourself with and can't be pinned down to one specific form of discrimination... or when you have an internal ethical code and other people misalign with them, that's wrongthink on their part.
well if you are surrounded by racists and homophobes, its wrongthink to be a non-racist gay dude.. wrongthink is defined by the societal group you surround yourself with and can't be pinned down to one specific form of discrimination... or when you have an internal ethical code and other people misalign with them, that's wrongthink on their part.
If you look for racism everywhere, you're going to find it everywhere. Just play the game.
If you look for racism everywhere, you're going to find it everywhere. Just play the game.
i very much agree with sac's sentiment. i grew up in a multi-national immigrant community where "racism" was commonplace and we got along and intermingled just fine. it was more used to banter and make jokes rather than discriminate and undermine. sure, sometimes someone would take it too far but others were quick to correct them because we knew what line should not be crossed. it seems this nuance is entirely lost in more homogeneous communities and, especially, on the internet.
i very much agree with sac's sentiment. i grew up in a multi-national immigrant community where "racism" was commonplace and we got along and intermingled just fine. it was more used to banter and make jokes rather than discriminate and undermine. sure, sometimes someone would take it too far but others were quick to correct them because we knew what line should not be crossed. it seems this nuance is entirely lost in more homogeneous communities and, especially, on the internet.
phobias are normal in my culture please respect it
phobias are normal in my culture please respect it
i mean ur right but im almost certain competitive tf2 is just 95% white middle class ppl so its not really the same
i mean ur right but im almost certain competitive tf2 is just 95% white middle class ppl so its not really the same
saddest thing about this game is seeing toxic people actively try to ruin things like inhouse pug groups whether its through racism, homophobia, etc.
saddest thing about this game is seeing toxic people actively try to ruin things like inhouse pug groups whether its through racism, homophobia, etc.