The Case of Elijah 2.0

#1

Tyson

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sZZYU5abFg

stv Is No PrOf ITs sTV lAg , so yeah stv = invalid cheat

https://clips.twitch.tv/KindSleepyLorisDxCat-_Hcbo2gXrAU3hg87
https://clips.twitch.tv/MoistVivaciousMacaroniBudBlast-puuLu5miT23MDypO

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sZZYU5abFg[/youtube]

stv Is No PrOf ITs sTV lAg , so yeah stv = invalid cheat

https://clips.twitch.tv/KindSleepyLorisDxCat-_Hcbo2gXrAU3hg87
https://clips.twitch.tv/MoistVivaciousMacaroniBudBlast-puuLu5miT23MDypO

#2

rickrigatoni

85 Frags – +

The Case for My Nuts Lol

#3

dishsoap

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LMFAO

#4

J_peg

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o wow

#5

hobophobiccityplanner

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Listen bro. It's standard for a scout to stare at a rock at choke instead of watching for gamers. You wouldn't understand the depths of his crosshair placement

#6

saxophone

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young man says he didnt cheat, he couldnt have cheated

#7

det-

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FactsMachineListen bro. It's standard for a scout to stare at a rock at choke instead of watching for gamers. You wouldn't understand the depths of his crosshair placement

he's just listening for footsteps bro

[quote=FactsMachine]Listen bro. It's standard for a scout to stare at a rock at choke instead of watching for gamers. You wouldn't understand the depths of his crosshair placement[/quote]
he's just listening for footsteps bro

#8

Tyson

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https://imgur.com/a/dhrk1QT

#9

pajaro

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https://i.imgur.com/ZFRD8UL.png

[img]https://i.imgur.com/ZFRD8UL.png[/img]

#10

seven1

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I like that editing doiku. Want to see some more stuff from you

#11

dishsoap

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Tysonhttps://imgur.com/a/dhrk1QT

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/035/699/pepe.jpg

[quote=Tyson]https://imgur.com/a/dhrk1QT[/quote]
[img]https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/035/699/pepe.jpg[/img]

#12

brick_

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man just leave the young man alone, like everyone who pugs with elijah doesnt think he cheats but u guys dont have to turn this into what young man said or whatever.

#13

Pantherrr

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Tysonstv Is No PrOf ITs sTV lAg , so yeah stv = invalid cheat

Not only are all of these clips stretches but people have been false banned because STVs before. You really do need POV demos with clips like these.
Also I don't think you know what a real lock on looks like.

[quote=Tyson]stv Is No PrOf ITs sTV lAg , so yeah stv = invalid cheat[/quote]
Not only are all of these clips stretches but people have been false banned because STVs before. You really do need POV demos with clips like these.
Also I don't think you know what a real lock on looks like.

#14

Tyson

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PantherrrTysonstv Is No PrOf ITs sTV lAg , so yeah stv = invalid cheatNot only are all of these clips stretches but people have been false banned because STVs before. You really do need POV demos with clips like these.
Also I don't think you know what a real lock on looks like.

pEopLe HaVBE faLsE b3nNeD bCz sTv
https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile.aspx?p=76561198124005288

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pDJWQ1rBudhXZG8K8Q6QSvY6t8Uwdszx5WVnXVo_PFA/edit

[quote=Pantherrr][quote=Tyson]stv Is No PrOf ITs sTV lAg , so yeah stv = invalid cheat[/quote]
Not only are all of these clips stretches but people have been false banned because STVs before. You really do need POV demos with clips like these.
Also I don't think you know what a real lock on looks like.[/quote]
pEopLe HaVBE faLsE b3nNeD bCz sTv
https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile.aspx?p=76561198124005288

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pDJWQ1rBudhXZG8K8Q6QSvY6t8Uwdszx5WVnXVo_PFA/edit

#15

alfa

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PantherrrTysonstv Is No PrOf ITs sTV lAg , so yeah stv = invalid cheatNot only are all of these clips stretches but people have been false banned because STVs before. You really do need POV demos with clips like these.
Also I don't think you know what a real lock on looks like.

https://i.gyazo.com/9b54ac7eaff810dbbcbc9166e9697b45.png

[quote=Pantherrr][quote=Tyson]stv Is No PrOf ITs sTV lAg , so yeah stv = invalid cheat[/quote]
Not only are all of these clips stretches but people have been false banned because STVs before. You really do need POV demos with clips like these.
Also I don't think you know what a real lock on looks like.[/quote]

[img]https://i.gyazo.com/9b54ac7eaff810dbbcbc9166e9697b45.png[/img]

#16

GeneralNick

UGC

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In some cases, STV lag (and all other issues that STV demos bring up) can 100% be mistaken for suspicious behavior/movement, however, in this case, both STV and POV demos were provided to both UGC/RGL anticheat admins. I am not sure where this idea came from, but rest assured, POV demos were reviewed and used quite extensively in this case.

In some cases, STV lag (and all other issues that STV demos bring up) can 100% be mistaken for suspicious behavior/movement, however, in this case, both STV [i]and[/i] POV demos were provided to both UGC/RGL anticheat admins. I am not sure where this idea came from, but rest assured, POV demos were reviewed and used quite extensively in this case.

#17

untamed

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brother got caught in 4K LMAO

#18

Scream

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You better have cited logs.tf

#19

Timeless

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GeneralNickIn some cases, STV lag (and all other issues that STV demos bring up) can 100% be mistaken for suspicious behavior/movement, however, in this case, both STV and POV demos were provided to both UGC/RGL anticheat admins. I am not sure where this idea came from, but rest assured, POV demos were reviewed and used quite extensively in this case.

Aren't STV and POV demos very very close to same thing nowadays? I've heard from AC admins that while POV demos are the best, STV is almost identical.

[quote=GeneralNick]In some cases, STV lag (and all other issues that STV demos bring up) can 100% be mistaken for suspicious behavior/movement, however, in this case, both STV [i]and[/i] POV demos were provided to both UGC/RGL anticheat admins. I am not sure where this idea came from, but rest assured, POV demos were reviewed and used quite extensively in this case.[/quote]
Aren't STV and POV demos very very close to same thing nowadays? I've heard from AC admins that while POV demos are the best, STV is almost identical.

#20

GrapeJuiceIII

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TimelessAren't STV and POV demos very very close to same thing nowadays? I've heard from AC admins that while POV demos are the best, STV is almost identical.

the mouse movements on an stv are slightly behind when shots get fired, which is what causes a "silent aim" sort of look when watching an stv

edit: also the POV of the player you're spectating in an stv's seems to be slightly behind where the player model actual is as well (this is VERY noticeable while watching stvs of jump maps, where rockets come out way in front of the camera when being synced, or look as though they should not be adding forward momentum, even tho they are)

here is a comparison of what that rocket syncing looks like on a POV vs the ROTW that used an STV i linked earlier
https://youtu.be/-LPSsif6n_U?t=305

[quote=Timeless]
Aren't STV and POV demos very very close to same thing nowadays? I've heard from AC admins that while POV demos are the best, STV is almost identical.[/quote]
the mouse movements on an stv are slightly behind when shots get fired, which is what causes a "silent aim" sort of look when watching an stv

edit: also the POV of the player you're spectating in an stv's seems to be slightly behind where the player model actual is as well (this is VERY noticeable while watching stvs of jump maps, [url=https://youtu.be/xg3OKOSHpiY?t=260]where rockets come out way in front of the camera[/url] when being synced, or look as though they should not be adding forward momentum, even tho they are)

here is a comparison of what that rocket syncing looks like on a POV vs the ROTW that used an STV i linked earlier
https://youtu.be/-LPSsif6n_U?t=305

#21

Parsuh

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ9medDEqhM

#22

glass

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Tysonhttps://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile.aspx?p=76561198124005288

profile picture is highly predictive of cheating

[quote=Tyson]https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile.aspx?p=76561198124005288[/quote]

profile picture is highly predictive of cheating

#23

glass

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same as facebook, come to think of it

#24

fenomeno

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free all them boys doing 100 seasons mane

#25

Murk_the_Scribe

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fenomenofree all them boys doing 100 seasons mane

you are my god

#freefeno

[quote=fenomeno]free all them boys doing 100 seasons mane[/quote]
you are my god

#freefeno

#26

subhuman

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fenomenofree all them boys doing 100 seasons mane

https://puu.sh/HF9mK/a4e2c588bf.jpg

[quote=fenomeno]free all them boys doing 100 seasons mane[/quote]
[img]https://puu.sh/HF9mK/a4e2c588bf.jpg[/img]

#27

Brimstone

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i really really like that he was trying to lock sgc and his software went for the stickies midair nowhere near the demo

#28

Pantherrr

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TysonPantherrrTysonstv Is No PrOf ITs sTV lAg , so yeah stv = invalid cheatNot only are all of these clips stretches but people have been false banned because STVs before. You really do need POV demos with clips like these.
Also I don't think you know what a real lock on looks like.pEopLe HaVBE faLsE b3nNeD bCz sTv
https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile.aspx?p=76561198124005288

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pDJWQ1rBudhXZG8K8Q6QSvY6t8Uwdszx5WVnXVo_PFA/edit

I'm not saying he didn't cheat, I think he did. But these clips don't prove it.
Also, RGL should look at more current demos and see if he cheated after his ban and just perma him if he did. I'm not a fan of just letting someone play again who is still cheating.

[quote=Tyson][quote=Pantherrr][quote=Tyson]stv Is No PrOf ITs sTV lAg , so yeah stv = invalid cheat[/quote]
Not only are all of these clips stretches but people have been false banned because STVs before. You really do need POV demos with clips like these.
Also I don't think you know what a real lock on looks like.[/quote]
pEopLe HaVBE faLsE b3nNeD bCz sTv
https://rgl.gg/Public/PlayerProfile.aspx?p=76561198124005288

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pDJWQ1rBudhXZG8K8Q6QSvY6t8Uwdszx5WVnXVo_PFA/edit[/quote]
I'm not saying he didn't cheat, I think he did. But these clips don't prove it.
Also, RGL should look at more current demos and see if he cheated after his ban and just perma him if he did. I'm not a fan of just letting someone play again who is still cheating.

#29

buttercup

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Nah bro he's legit, he went to mr bkn lan

#30

cray

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im gonna be honest, youre not wrong but you just have the wrong basis of information