Team Boomer/ Classic Mixup Street Hoops fusion team:
Ruwin (20)
Yz50 (19)
Seagull (22)
TLR (20)
Duwatna (18)
Cozen (16)
I think you get a better team than this (even assuming people in their prime) I think if you swap out yz50 for yosh and TLR for jay at the same total cost, but this team sounds like an actual roster that could have existed like 6-7 years ago so I couldn't pass it up.
Team Boomer/ Classic Mixup Street Hoops fusion team:
Ruwin (20)
Yz50 (19)
Seagull (22)
TLR (20)
Duwatna (18)
Cozen (16)
I think you get a better team than this (even assuming people in their prime) I think if you swap out yz50 for yosh and TLR for jay at the same total cost, but this team sounds like an actual roster that could have existed like 6-7 years ago so I couldn't pass it up.
Respect for not putting the pedo on the list +rep
Respect for not putting the pedo on the list +rep
Ruwin (P.Scout)
Yz50 (F.Scout)
Tagg (Roamer)
TLR (Pocket)
Duwatna (Demo)
Harbleu (Medic)
Ruwin (P.Scout)
Yz50 (F.Scout)
Tagg (Roamer)
TLR (Pocket)
Duwatna (Demo)
Harbleu (Medic)
MnT / 4G fusion team
P Scout. b4nny ($27,000)
F Scout. yosh ($17,000)
Roamer. speedy ($17,000)
Pocket. paddie ($18,000)
Demo. duwatna ($18,000)
Medic. ckj ($18,000)
b4nny as pocket scout makes sense and can fit on most teams imo also works with paddie.
yosh would offer strong off-class potential and flank openings (rat)
speedy would benefit from having paddie on pocket and have a flank scout in yosh.
paddie would be a good pocket with b4nny and offer a lot of calls.
duwatna in his prime works well with b4nny and can offer a lot of impact in fights.
cookiejake arrows.
MnT / 4G fusion team
P Scout. b4nny ($27,000)
F Scout. yosh ($17,000)
Roamer. speedy ($17,000)
Pocket. paddie ($18,000)
Demo. duwatna ($18,000)
Medic. ckj ($18,000)
b4nny as pocket scout makes sense and can fit on most teams imo also works with paddie.
yosh would offer strong off-class potential and flank openings (rat)
speedy would benefit from having paddie on pocket and have a flank scout in yosh.
paddie would be a good pocket with b4nny and offer a lot of calls.
duwatna in his prime works well with b4nny and can offer a lot of impact in fights.
cookiejake arrows.
Freestate for $16k? Don't mind if I do
Freestate for $16k? Don't mind if I do
hi5 (20) smart roleplayer also doesnt miss
clock (24) undervalued dude is worth 26 at least we are talking in their primes dont forget. he literally has like 6 of the top 10 most kill games in esea match history
rekuso (18) 18k??????????? speedy, tagg trippa soapy above him????? alright then i guess i dont know how roamers are valued
paddie (18) no comment needed, undervalued, cyrus can take all the heals and own
sigh (18) 500 dpm minimum a game, dm legend
zilly (17) top 5 medic to ever play in NA and at that high a skill level any of the top 5 medics will do so i went with the one who lives the most and the one whos cheapest
total - 115k
the cohesion between the players might be a bit wack other than zilly and hi5 but this is def one of the best teams you can make with the money you got
hi5 (20) smart roleplayer also doesnt miss
clock (24) undervalued dude is worth 26 at least we are talking [i]in their primes[/i] dont forget. he literally has like 6 of the top 10 most kill games in esea match history
rekuso (18) 18k??????????? speedy, tagg trippa soapy above him????? alright then i guess i dont know how roamers are valued
paddie (18) no comment needed, undervalued, cyrus can take all the heals and own
sigh (18) 500 dpm minimum a game, dm legend
zilly (17) top 5 medic to ever play in NA and at that high a skill level any of the top 5 medics will do so i went with the one who lives the most and the one whos cheapest
total - 115k
the cohesion between the players might be a bit wack other than zilly and hi5 but this is def one of the best teams you can make with the money you got
u HAVE to be buying duwatna at 18 here
u HAVE to be buying duwatna at 18 here
What about people who have multi-classed in invite? Like what if I really want ash/botmode on scout, or zilly on soldier? Is that the same price?
What about people who have multi-classed in invite? Like what if I really want ash/botmode on scout, or zilly on soldier? Is that the same price?
Dreamboatjetzalso imo even if people are in their prime i still think a lot of the oldest players are overpriced
That debate is always present in sports though with stuff like this. Happens a lot in hockey for example, "Wayne Gretzky literally holds most NHL scoring records, but would he be as good with players being in better shape and goalies being better"
My opinion is that the players adapted to the meta they faced at the time. While the time they were in their prime is a different meta than now, there's no reason to think that the players in their primes wouldn't be able to adapt and see a similarly high peak. I honestly think Platinum on demo in his prime would be just as effective in 2021 as he was when he was actually in his prime.
this is especially true when you consider the fact that tf2 has had such a small influx of talent over its lifespan (no offense). over a decade ago platinum was primarily losing and sometimes winning vs b4nny in the exact same fashion the players today are. you have an obvious litmus test in b4nny, he's been at the top of the game (at least individually) for over a decade now. it's much harder to judge, for example, michael jordan and lebron james as they played in completely different eras with different refereeing, less emphasis on analytics, etc. tf2 has been essentially the same for over a decade, with a few changes that have definitely impacted the minutiae of the game the game, but not enough holistically to where I'd come back into an invite team and be completely lost. you'd have to think that b4nny had a way higher ceiling than any of his contemporaries (who honestly beat him wayyy more often than anyone does today) to think they players like plat would've completely fallen off 7-8 years later
[quote=Dreamboat][quote=jetz]also imo even if people are in their prime i still think a lot of the oldest players are overpriced[/quote]
That debate is always present in sports though with stuff like this. Happens a lot in hockey for example, "Wayne Gretzky literally holds most NHL scoring records, but would he be as good with players being in better shape and goalies being better"
My opinion is that the players adapted to the meta they faced at the time. While the time they were in their prime is a different meta than now, there's no reason to think that the players in their primes wouldn't be able to adapt and see a similarly high peak. I honestly think Platinum on demo in his prime would be just as effective in 2021 as he was when he was actually in his prime.[/quote]
this is especially true when you consider the fact that tf2 has had such a small influx of talent over its lifespan (no offense). over a decade ago platinum was primarily losing and sometimes winning vs b4nny in the exact same fashion the players today are. you have an obvious litmus test in b4nny, he's been at the top of the game (at least individually) for over a decade now. it's much harder to judge, for example, michael jordan and lebron james as they played in completely different eras with different refereeing, less emphasis on analytics, etc. tf2 has been essentially the same for over a decade, with a few changes that have definitely impacted the minutiae of the game the game, but not enough holistically to where I'd come back into an invite team and be completely lost. you'd have to think that b4nny had a way higher ceiling than any of his contemporaries (who honestly beat him wayyy more often than anyone does today) to think they players like plat would've completely fallen off 7-8 years later
corsa(23)
freestate(16)
laz(21)
paddie(18)
duwatna(18)
lolguy(19)
corsa(23)
freestate(16)
laz(21)
paddie(18)
duwatna(18)
lolguy(19)
b4nny (27)
highfive (20)
showstopper (17)
rando (18)
yight (21)
mr slin (∞)
b4nny (27)
highfive (20)
showstopper (17)
rando (18)
yight (21)
mr slin (∞)
sandblast, freestate, laz, rando, delpo, cozen. It’s harder to compare players over such a long stretch of time.
sandblast, freestate, laz, rando, delpo, cozen. It’s harder to compare players over such a long stretch of time.
b4nny
freestate
trip
paddie
delpo
ninjanick
b4nny
freestate
trip
paddie
delpo
ninjanick
branslam
clockwork
soapy
showstopper
delpo
indust
branslam
clockwork
soapy
showstopper
delpo
indust
sandblast
slemnish
garbuglio
mirrorman
duwatna
lolguy
sandblast
slemnish
garbuglio
mirrorman
duwatna
lolguy
hi5
clockwork
garbuglio
paddie
duwatna
cozen
hi5
clockwork
garbuglio
paddie
duwatna
cozen
shouldn't freestate be higher on the list?
shouldn't freestate be higher on the list?
b4nny (27)
freestate (16)
Soapy (18)
Showstopper (17)
Duwatna (18)
Lolguy (19)
Freestate and Duwatna mad undervalued. Also strange that there's only one medic above $20k but whatever
b4nny (27)
freestate (16)
Soapy (18)
Showstopper (17)
Duwatna (18)
Lolguy (19)
Freestate and Duwatna mad undervalued. Also strange that there's only one medic above $20k but whatever
rktGODMy team based on the list is:
flank scout: clockwork (GOAT)
combo scout: b4nny (superior maincalling ability)
roamer: laz (T6 jumper)
pocket: jay (spoon master)
demo: habib (GOAT)
medic: shade (5Head)
*goes 24k over budget*
"I'm not gonna bother making another one"
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lQezinb283E/maxresdefault.jpg
[quote=rktGOD]My team based on the list is:
flank scout: clockwork (GOAT)
combo scout: b4nny (superior maincalling ability)
roamer: laz (T6 jumper)
pocket: jay (spoon master)
demo: habib (GOAT)
medic: shade (5Head)[/quote] *goes 24k over budget*
"I'm not gonna bother making another one"[img]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/lQezinb283E/maxresdefault.jpg[/img]
this thread continues to confirm my belief that grape is the most underappreciated player ever
this thread continues to confirm my belief that grape is the most underappreciated player ever
Permission for an extra $5k because the team won't make it to a game before it dies:
P scout: b4nny(27)
F scout: alfa(18)
Roamer: tagg(18)
Pocket: showstopper(17)
Demo: bdonski(23)
Medic: zilly(17)
Permission for an extra $5k because the team won't make it to a game before it dies:
P scout: b4nny(27)
F scout: alfa(18)
Roamer: tagg(18)
Pocket: showstopper(17)
Demo: bdonski(23)
Medic: zilly(17)
corsa (23)
yosh (17)
SOOOOOAPYMEiSTER (18)
mirrorman (17)
alex.exe (21)
lolguy (19)
total: 115
corsa (23)
yosh (17)
SOOOOOAPYMEiSTER (18)
mirrorman (17)
alex.exe (21)
lolguy (19)
total: 115
okay on second thought this roster is definitely the best if people are in their primes:
b4nny (27)
freestate (16)
blaze (22)
paddie (18)
muma (17)
ninjanick (15)
i wanted to do habib but banny + blaze is more important and this is literally just a better version of their s22 roster (paddie is better at pocket than scout and the reverse for banny imo)
okay on second thought this roster is definitely the best if people are in their primes:
b4nny (27)
freestate (16)
blaze (22)
paddie (18)
muma (17)
ninjanick (15)
i wanted to do habib but banny + blaze is more important and this is literally just a better version of their [url=https://www.teamfortress.tv/31841/corsa-out-ninjanick-in-for-froyotech]s22[/url] roster (paddie is better at pocket than scout and the reverse for banny imo)
b4nny (27)
yosh (17)
speedy (17)
mirrorman (17)
duwatna (18)
lolguy (19)
b4nny (27)
yosh (17)
speedy (17)
mirrorman (17)
duwatna (18)
lolguy (19)
decimate (17)
alfa (18)
ma3la (20)
rando (18)
bdonski (23)
phorofor (19)
some early ascent roster
decimate (17)
alfa (18)
ma3la (20)
rando (18)
bdonski (23)
phorofor (19)
some early ascent roster
nah that was eLevate and they had cozen (s17) and kbk (s18), not 404 (he was s20/s21 with yomps and shrugger)
esea website sucks to look through but liquipedia is pretty good for checking stuff like this https://liquipedia.net/teamfortress/ELevate
nah that was eLevate and they had cozen (s17) and kbk (s18), not 404 (he was s20/s21 with yomps and shrugger)
esea website sucks to look through but liquipedia is pretty good for checking stuff like this https://liquipedia.net/teamfortress/ELevate