hello im here to call u a pussy in this thread too
how are u gonna get mad about maps being close in invite playoffs? hello???

If we only play maps where one team has a massive advantage, the score will be obvious right after the map picking stage, allowing us to massively streamline playoffs by not playing the matches at all. None of that "going over the schedule" nonsense. So I think he's onto something.

i was hoping u could finally be useful in one of these threads after someone said germans like badlands but i guess not

It's true though, I do like badlands.
Maybe the joke went over your head.
I guess I'll explain it: Maps being a steamroll one way or the other where half the time just ends up padding the score without being very enjoyable to watch is bad. Close maps where you don't know how it'll end until the last second, maybe even going to golden cap, is good, that's fun to watch. Maps that both teams are good at are good.

I'm not here to be useful. The original question was:

I can't see any reason why it shouldn't be played. At least compared to some other maps in the pools.

sorry im drinking a lot at the moment and i cant read
all the best to you and your family! god bless!

german joke

Feel like the only egregious instance of this was rewind but that was not the maps fault lol, it was EVL doing nothing but send a single sac for 30 minutes onto the best mechanically gifted medic to touch the game. Could have happened on any other map.

I feel like badlands rewards gamesense more than most other maps. For lower div players i think badlands is a better map to improve than many other maps.

Yeah, for example you can't have your combo sit on choke and keep an eye on the flank at the same time. Your flank needs to actually communicate!

badlands will always be my favorite map and the main reason why I will not come back to this game, badlands or riot

its funny because all the main reasons badlands was so aids now also applies to every other map lol (perma sentry to deny sacs and doors even on even ubers, teams leaving to second and waiting for spawners while u clear the worlds biggest lobby) and the other stuff like having to check for 12 traps per square metre in upper last got mostly fixed by prolands.
i think for most people the turn off was the captime and people thinking it was unfair/ a gimmick because they didnt want to learn a very different kind of last to every other (and then there was the big 2s vs 1s debate that never got agreed on and just saw the map disappear)
i think the people fanboying it probably have a little too much rose tinted glasses but the people who were hating just cos the last capped fast are noob. would be nice to at least give it another go in a season and see how it goes :D

agree. i think i learned more getting my ass kicked by black swan black in s28 playoffs on badlands than i have in any individual hour on any other map before or since

https://www.teamfortress.tv/post/1003460/any-support-for-a-cp-badlands-return

As a caster, badlands week was always the one I looked forward to because it's the map that always separated the contenders from the pretenders. Sure you might DM your way to a decent record, but badlands would victimize those teams. You always had a better idea of who was legit after it was played.

badlands is good

as an aside, why do we need to remove and add and remove and add maps like reckoner and metalworks every season? so pointless

badlands would be the best map no contest with a better last

on a serious note i cant see why no one with mapping experience has taken it on themselves to rework the lobby area entirely. besides deciding between 1s or 2s, imo its the only serious work that needs to be done on that map in order to make it completely playable and fun. if lobby took maybe 5s shorter to clear and push out of into second, we wouldnt be having this conversation in the first place and i know for a fact that we have mappers in this community capable of that much intelligent design at least

Variation.

A lot of people probably get bored playing the exact same maps for years straight