Tino I think you're being a bit too harsh there, but I can see some points.
Yes, you should take some caution with what RGL staff have said about "DMs being open" and promises, but utltimately, you won't ever get change if you sit here. DM your local staff memebers at RGL today!
I think having a tough egg shell with gripes of the past is hurtful more than helpful, and maybe it's time to start some group DMs or individual DMs with some of the admins in this thread voicing their openness of hearing feedback.
I understand your hatred towards sigafoo, but unless you or someone else creates another league and actually wants to go through maintaining both infrastructure and playerbase, then maybe voicing opinions on threads isn't a good option to continue doing.
I'm saying this with absolutely 0 insight into your life, so if you're already doing this, I apologize. Otherwise, I think you have some good opinions that should totally be heard. I think you're insight is worth a ton, and I just want to see this go somewhere if both virgil and reno are to be believed.
Tino I think you're being a bit too harsh there, but I can see some points.
Yes, you should take some caution with what RGL staff have said about "DMs being open" and promises, but utltimately, you won't ever get change if you sit here. DM your local staff memebers at RGL today!
I think having a tough egg shell with gripes of the past is hurtful more than helpful, and maybe it's time to start some group DMs or individual DMs with some of the admins in this thread voicing their openness of hearing feedback.
I understand your hatred towards sigafoo, but unless you or someone else creates another league and actually wants to go through maintaining both infrastructure and playerbase, then maybe voicing opinions on threads isn't a good option to continue doing.
I'm saying this with absolutely 0 insight into your life, so if you're already doing this, I apologize. Otherwise, I think you have some good opinions that should totally be heard. I think you're insight is worth a ton, and I just want to see this go somewhere if both virgil and reno are to be believed.
to be fair, one subtext that sigafoo/virgil/etc can't just come out and say but is definitely true is:
things have the potential to improve because the unholy triumvirate of ire, makkabeus and daffodil are no longer anywhere remotely near the levers of power
will things be perfect moving forward? I'm sure not, rgl has lots of issues. but, based on my time in the invite meeting, things seemed pretty night and day after the staff turnover there. I cannot stress enough how terrible those 3 (well, especially ire and makkabeus, daffodil was tame by comparison at the end of the day) handled relationships with the teams they were admining
to be fair, one subtext that sigafoo/virgil/etc can't just come out and say but is definitely true is:
things have the potential to improve because the unholy triumvirate of ire, makkabeus and daffodil are no longer anywhere remotely near the levers of power
will things be perfect moving forward? I'm sure not, rgl has lots of issues. but, based on my time in the invite meeting, things seemed pretty night and day after the staff turnover there. I cannot stress enough how terrible those 3 (well, especially ire and makkabeus, daffodil was tame by comparison at the end of the day) handled relationships with the teams they were admining
Yeah it might come off as a little harsh, but to be clear I am not trying to shit talk admins like Virgil or Reno I am more just trying to outline why the communications and interactions between RGL and players is so toxic. I do think that there are people who do want to do right by the community, but there is so much baggage it's an extremely difficult task, especially considering how secretive RGL is with releasing information.
As I have said multiple times over the years I never really cared what league players chose to go to, just that it was one that actually worked for them but (IMO) RGL was never going to be that because RGL was always more concerned about pushing "their" vision of what the game should be rather than letting the community decide. Maybe these new admins can change that, but much like your API issue, it's very much a top down problem that requires action on the RGL heads part.
Like of people really want to talk to me about shit feel free to DM me. I'm in the newbie mix discord, but "fixing" this shit really isn't anywhere near a priority for me at this point. If others want to try I am more than willing to give ideas and best of luck to you but I am not involved in the game or community enough anymore.
Yeah it might come off as a little harsh, but to be clear I am not trying to shit talk admins like Virgil or Reno I am more just trying to outline why the communications and interactions between RGL and players is so toxic. I do think that there are people who do want to do right by the community, but there is so much baggage it's an extremely difficult task, especially considering how secretive RGL is with releasing information.
As I have said multiple times over the years I never really cared what league players chose to go to, just that it was one that actually worked for them but (IMO) RGL was never going to be that because RGL was always more concerned about pushing "their" vision of what the game should be rather than letting the community decide. Maybe these new admins can change that, but much like your API issue, it's very much a top down problem that requires action on the RGL heads part.
Like of people really want to talk to me about shit feel free to DM me. I'm in the newbie mix discord, but "fixing" this shit really isn't anywhere near a priority for me at this point. If others want to try I am more than willing to give ideas and best of luck to you but I am not involved in the game or community enough anymore.
Virgil and some of the other div admins are genuinely awesome people, but I think something people don't recognize is that as a div admin you don't have that much power outside your div or within the upper rgl decision making. Out of the people at the top, sig actually seems like the most sane or reasonable, and while I won't name those people I'm wary of any change happening when the people handling bans, warnings, like 95% of the issues people have brought up, haven't changed and all my interactions with them have been dumb.
Virgil and some of the other div admins are genuinely awesome people, but I think something people don't recognize is that as a div admin you don't have that much power outside your div or within the upper rgl decision making. Out of the people at the top, sig actually seems like the most sane or reasonable, and while I won't name those people I'm wary of any change happening when the people handling bans, warnings, like 95% of the issues people have brought up, haven't changed and all my interactions with them have been dumb.
mustardoverlorddaffodil was tame by comparison at the end of the day
Absolutely not. RGL used the point system for the first two seasons when Daf was head admin, and this is the same person that legit said "top six playoffs tell me who the top four teams are" during S3.
Ironically(?), if Daf was a normal human being and used top four playoffs then the Plumpwench group would not have been super stupid and thrown the match to ruin Cat Posse's playoff hopes, because it'd have been impossible for the latter under top four.
[quote=mustardoverlord]daffodil was tame by comparison at the end of the day[/quote]
Absolutely not. RGL used the point system for the first two seasons when Daf was head admin, and this is the same person that legit said "top six playoffs tell me who the top four teams are" during S3.
Ironically(?), if Daf was a normal human being and used top four playoffs then the Plumpwench group would not have been super stupid and thrown the match to ruin Cat Posse's playoff hopes, because it'd have been impossible for the latter under top four.
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Ire gave us a major warning for getting shitstomped too fast and then fucked our map vetoes in playoffs, so yeah I will take anyone else on admin over that shit. I saw some giga corruption from every invite admin so far besides virgil that you would not imagine, those people treated our div like a casino or some shit and then have the audacity to victimize themselves like they never did anything wrong, and even go a step further and laugh in your faces on stream when you even question the logic behind their decisions (makka).
Only big current thing I hope RGL does properly is upholding their ruleset and not waiting for my teammate to go to bed in playoffs. I will have an actual aneurysm if I have to deal with that situation ever again because the other team refuses to talk to admins for 40 min. I get it you guys aren't paid but holy shit some of you should never be in any position of power or be able to handle invite, anticheat, anything.
Ire gave us a major warning for getting shitstomped too fast and then fucked our map vetoes in playoffs, so yeah I will take anyone else on admin over that shit. I saw some giga corruption from every invite admin so far besides virgil that you would not imagine, those people treated our div like a casino or some shit and then have the audacity to victimize themselves like they never did anything wrong, and even go a step further and laugh in your faces on stream when you even question the logic behind their decisions (makka).
Only big current thing I hope RGL does properly is upholding their ruleset and not waiting for my teammate to go to bed in playoffs. I will have an actual aneurysm if I have to deal with that situation ever again because the other team refuses to talk to admins for 40 min. I get it you guys aren't paid but holy shit some of you should never be in any position of power or be able to handle invite, anticheat, anything.
Tery_mustardoverlorddaffodil was tame by comparison at the end of the day
Absolutely not. RGL used the point system for the first two seasons when Daf was head admin, and this is the same person that legit said "top six playoffs tell me who the top four teams are" during S3.
Ironically(?), if Daf was a normal human being and used top four playoffs then the Plumpwench group would not have been super stupid and thrown the match to ruin Cat Posse's playoff hopes, because it'd have been impossible for the latter under top four.
I only said by comparison...
[quote=Tery_][quote=mustardoverlord]daffodil was tame by comparison at the end of the day[/quote]
Absolutely not. RGL used the point system for the first two seasons when Daf was head admin, and this is the same person that legit said "top six playoffs tell me who the top four teams are" during S3.
Ironically(?), if Daf was a normal human being and used top four playoffs then the Plumpwench group would not have been super stupid and thrown the match to ruin Cat Posse's playoff hopes, because it'd have been impossible for the latter under top four.[/quote]
I only said by comparison...
I've come to make an announcement: Sigafoo the RGL admin's a bitch-ass motherfucker. He banned my fucking alt. That's right. He took his discord fuckin' moderator dick out and he banned my FUCKING alt, and he said his dick was THIS BIG, and I said that's disgusting. So I'm making a callout post on my TeamFortress.tv. Sigafoo the RGL admin, you got a small dick. It's the size of this second banana except WAY smaller. And guess what? Here's what my dong looks like. That's right, baby. Tall points, no quills, no pillows, look at that, it looks like two stickies and a rocket. He fucked my alt, so guess what, I'm gonna fuck TF2. That's right, this is what you get! My SUPER CROCKET PISS! Except I'm not gonna piss on TF2. I'm gonna go higher. I'm pissing on STEEEEEAM How do you like that, GABEN? I PISSED ON STEAM, YOU IDIOT! You have twenty-three hours before the piss DROPLETS hit the fucking game, now get out of my fucking sight before I piss on you too!
I've come to make an announcement: Sigafoo the RGL admin's a bitch-ass motherfucker. He banned my fucking alt. That's right. He took his discord fuckin' moderator dick out and he banned my FUCKING alt, and he said his dick was THIS BIG, and I said that's disgusting. So I'm making a callout post on my TeamFortress.tv. Sigafoo the RGL admin, you got a small dick. It's the size of this second banana except WAY smaller. And guess what? Here's what my dong looks like. That's right, baby. Tall points, no quills, no pillows, look at that, it looks like two stickies and a rocket. He fucked my alt, so guess what, I'm gonna fuck TF2. That's right, this is what you get! My SUPER CROCKET PISS! Except I'm not gonna piss on TF2. I'm gonna go higher. I'm pissing on STEEEEEAM How do you like that, GABEN? I PISSED ON STEAM, YOU IDIOT! You have twenty-three hours before the piss DROPLETS hit the fucking game, now get out of my fucking sight before I piss on you too!
i dont want to whistle blow or anything but i saw sigafoo beheading a child
i dont want to whistle blow or anything but i saw sigafoo beheading a child
sigafoo the kind of guy to say he doesnt like his grandmothers cooking
sigafoo the kind of guy to say he doesnt like his grandmothers cooking
i swear if RGL was just a tiny bit more hesitant to ban people none of these backlash threads would happen, i get ur striving to be as good as u can but its like a cop who arrests/shoots too many people lmao all the admins have to do is chill out for a bit and not ban anyone unless they do something really egregious
i swear if RGL was just a tiny bit more hesitant to ban people none of these backlash threads would happen, i get ur striving to be as good as u can but its like a cop who arrests/shoots too many people lmao all the admins have to do is chill out for a bit and not ban anyone unless they do something really egregious
bearodactyli swear if RGL was just a tiny bit more hesitant to ban people none of these backlash threads would happen, i get ur striving to be as good as u can but its like a cop who arrests/shoots too many people lmao all the admins have to do is chill out for a bit and not ban anyone unless they do something really egregious
what are your views on the recent police brutality issues in the united states?
[quote=bearodactyl]i swear if RGL was just a tiny bit more hesitant to ban people none of these backlash threads would happen, i get ur striving to be as good as u can but its like a cop who arrests/shoots too many people lmao all the admins have to do is chill out for a bit and not ban anyone unless they do something really egregious[/quote]
what are your views on the recent police brutality issues in the united states?
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