I'm using 1.4 sens with 1200 dpi and my aim feels extremely inconsistent on scout, my mouse either feels too fast or too sluggish. is there any tips or advice on how I can make my aiming more consistent? thank you <3
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I'm using 1.4 sens with 1200 dpi and my aim feels extremely inconsistent on scout, my mouse either feels too fast or too sluggish. is there any tips or advice on how I can make my aiming more consistent? thank you <3
generally for hitscan games, the lowest sens you can comfortably play on (comfortably being the key word) tends to produce the best results, though obviously your results may vary. if you can't lower your sens any further without your movement suffering, then there's nothing you can do but lock in
generally for hitscan games, the lowest sens you can comfortably play on (comfortably being the key word) tends to produce the best results, though obviously your results may vary. if you can't lower your sens any further without your movement suffering, then there's nothing you can do but lock in
in order of practicality
#1 play more
lock in as per Seinfeld's advice. Are you already playing the amount of hours you can muster without suffering in terms of grades/social life/etc? Think of how to use your time more efficiently. 30 minutes of scrims is worth a lot more than 30 minutes of pubbing as an example
#2 rocketjump on a variety of maps
different jumps will force you to be consistent with both precise mouse movement and flicks
#3 aim trainer games
They're overrated and you need to do it right. variety in flicks, tracking, scenarios that require full 360 movement, horizontal and vertical, etc. Rocketjumping takes less effort because you just join a server and go
#4 different settings, mouse accel, etc
I do not recommend relearning your muscle memory. But I'll post it just to have it listed. That new crosshair or HUD wont make the difference either
in order of practicality
#1 [b]play more[/b]
lock in as per Seinfeld's advice. Are you already playing the amount of hours you can muster without suffering in terms of grades/social life/etc? Think of how to use your time more efficiently. 30 minutes of scrims is worth a lot more than 30 minutes of pubbing as an example
#2 [b]rocketjump on a variety of maps[/b]
different jumps will force you to be consistent with both precise mouse movement and flicks
#3 [b]aim trainer games[/b]
They're overrated and you need to do it right. variety in flicks, tracking, scenarios that require full 360 movement, horizontal and vertical, etc. Rocketjumping takes less effort because you just join a server and go
#4 [b]different settings, mouse accel, etc[/b]
I do not recommend relearning your muscle memory. But I'll post it just to have it listed. That new crosshair or HUD wont make the difference either
#1 [b]play more[/b]
lock in as per Seinfeld's advice. Are you already playing the amount of hours you can muster without suffering in terms of grades/social life/etc? Think of how to use your time more efficiently. 30 minutes of scrims is worth a lot more than 30 minutes of pubbing as an example
#2 [b]rocketjump on a variety of maps[/b]
different jumps will force you to be consistent with both precise mouse movement and flicks
#3 [b]aim trainer games[/b]
They're overrated and you need to do it right. variety in flicks, tracking, scenarios that require full 360 movement, horizontal and vertical, etc. Rocketjumping takes less effort because you just join a server and go
#4 [b]different settings, mouse accel, etc[/b]
I do not recommend relearning your muscle memory. But I'll post it just to have it listed. That new crosshair or HUD wont make the difference either
If you haven't already, make sure your mouse acceleration is disabled. Personally I like a low sens on scout, you could try to lower it but make sure it doesn't hinder your ability to turn around.
Otherwise you just have to practice!
If you haven't already, make sure your mouse acceleration is disabled. Personally I like a low sens on scout, you could try to lower it but make sure it doesn't hinder your ability to turn around.
Otherwise you just have to practice!
Otherwise you just have to practice!
I have that problem all the time. I change sens constantly (like a moron) and it doesn't help.
Your sens is about 25cm I think which is fairly high for a scout so you could lower it if you want but then try and stick with it a while. When you change sens it will feel good, then maybe too fast then maybe slow and eventually you will get used to it. It's a bit like calibration. If you have only just changed to that sens, that could be a factor.
Also, this is difficult to do but don't think about your sens or aim. Thinking about it throws you off and you ovethink. Imagine giving a presentation and thinking about how you are performing in the presentation while giving it. It would mess up your performance.
I have that problem all the time. I change sens constantly (like a moron) and it doesn't help.
Your sens is about 25cm I think which is fairly high for a scout so you could lower it if you want but then try and stick with it a while. When you change sens it will feel good, then maybe too fast then maybe slow and eventually you will get used to it. It's a bit like calibration. If you have only just changed to that sens, that could be a factor.
Also, this is difficult to do but don't think about your sens or aim. Thinking about it throws you off and you ovethink. Imagine giving a presentation and thinking about how you are performing in the presentation while giving it. It would mess up your performance.
Your sens is about 25cm I think which is fairly high for a scout so you could lower it if you want but then try and stick with it a while. When you change sens it will feel good, then maybe too fast then maybe slow and eventually you will get used to it. It's a bit like calibration. If you have only just changed to that sens, that could be a factor.
Also, this is difficult to do but don't think about your sens or aim. Thinking about it throws you off and you ovethink. Imagine giving a presentation and thinking about how you are performing in the presentation while giving it. It would mess up your performance.
You can always practice more and build consistency but if I were you I would experiment with a lower sense first, I feel its too high but it rly could just be my preference for scout. And don't give up on it in 1 day, spend at least a week experimenting with it. Build muscle memory on that sense as a base then play with a lower or higher sens occasionally, that will help you more from that point forward.
Another form of practice you can do is play shooters with a high mechanical skill ceiling like Apex or Quake or other alternatives.
(for reference, I play on 1.55 ingame 800 dpi / 0.65 1600 on scout, I play slightly higher on projectile.)
You can always practice more and build consistency but if I were you I would experiment with a lower sense first, I feel its too high but it rly could just be my preference for scout. And don't give up on it in 1 day, spend at least a week experimenting with it. Build muscle memory on that sense as a base then play with a lower or higher sens occasionally, that will help you more from that point forward.
Another form of practice you can do is play shooters with a high mechanical skill ceiling like Apex or Quake or other alternatives.
(for reference, I play on 1.55 ingame 800 dpi / 0.65 1600 on scout, I play slightly higher on projectile.)
Another form of practice you can do is play shooters with a high mechanical skill ceiling like Apex or Quake or other alternatives.
(for reference, I play on 1.55 ingame 800 dpi / 0.65 1600 on scout, I play slightly higher on projectile.)
Gaining consistency requires consistency in practice. You're not gonna get good by grinding 8 hours a day for a week, you'll probably just injure yourself. You'll get good by playing a consistent (and healthy) amount while focused on improving weaknesses you identify over the course of months.
Your daily habit could be as simple as playing for 30-60 minutes each day some aimlab/kovaaks scenarios that you hate doing because they're hard or mge against someone better than you. Whatever it is, if you never break your daily routine then you'll see results. of course your personal goals and regiment can change over time, so long as it's intentional.
I wanna address a few things I saw in this thread:
1. Sens:
Changing sens constantly is fine, it forces you to lean more on training actual hand eye coordination and often gets you to focus more, as well as (assuming you're using a decent variety of sens ranges) training muscles in your hand and arm you wouldn't normally use by sticking to one sens. I would however recommend trying to find a sens that balances being both low enough that you can actually control it and high enough that you don't move like someone maneuvering in molasses.
The myth that having multiple sensitivities across games, or even classes being bad, is just that: a myth. The best aim trainer players in the world change their sens between tasks to fit the task better, so pick a sens for you that accomplishes your goals or at least strikes the most comfortable balance. The rest is overcome with practice. If you wake up one day and find you play better lowering/raising your sens, then fuck it we ball.
2. Mouse accel
Software like raw accel, not windows accel is hit or miss for people, but it is just another tool in the box you can turn to while trying to find something comfortable. What's most important is practicing enough that you can control the mouse effectively. Your sens is probably considered higher than average among scout mains but it's nothing that can't be overcome if you insist on it. You get the obvious benefits of easier 180's etc. see if that cost benefit works out to you
3. Aiming mentality
I'd recommend the opposite of someone above and say that being focused on what you're aiming at, really looking at your target and trying to predict their movement is much better than trying to empty head it. Aim training scenarios will focus on training pure raw mechanics and reactions with random bot movement, which is useful to an extent, but in game against real people you shouldn't aim like that. Some of the best in game aimers I know have just average aim trainer scores because they're just that good at predicting player movement and using that to simplify the requirement on raw aim. Aim trainers also won't teach you to use your movement to aim and definitely won't teach you how to dodge.
Many people find themselves at a junction where it feels like you’re inconsistent because it's hard to tell if you're missing because you knew where the guy was gonna go but just mechanically failed the eye hand coordination check, or if you would have hit the guy in that moment if you had only decided better where he was gonna be when you clicked. Also some days maybe your diet or sleep was shit and you feel sluggish idk.
4. Aim trainers
My best analogy for aim trainers and other tools like jump maps are the drills and exercises that athletes do. Nobody is weaving between cones in a real game of (American)football, the whole point was to train a basic level of agility that you can then adapt to various situations in game, but there's so much more to think about in the game that is required to win.
Someone mentioned briefly above but if you're gonna use aim trainers, make sure you're actually doing scenarios that train your weaknesses. Read: don't play that gridshot scenario unless you accept that it's just for fun. Also remember that a lot of tf2 is more than aim beyond a certain level of aim being necessary for executing competently, so there's probably diminishing returns on your time compared to say, getting to a t3 jumper level.
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Everyone wanna get crazy aim but ain’t nobody wanna track the tiny brownian motion circles every day. - Ronnie Coleman or some shit idk
I'm basically the poster child for not being talented at fps games (I started off so bad it's actually unreal) so maybe this stuff is useless or obvious to people better than me but this stuff helped me to make considerable noticeable improvement in the course of several months last year before I got addicted to mmos again. Before that my hitscan ability had basically plateaued at a solid level of suckass for years because I was just playing with a sens I couldn't control and the wrong mentality for improvement.
Gaining consistency requires consistency in practice. You're not gonna get good by grinding 8 hours a day for a week, you'll probably just injure yourself. You'll get good by playing a consistent (and healthy) amount while focused on improving weaknesses you identify over the course of months.
Your daily habit could be as simple as playing for 30-60 minutes each day some aimlab/kovaaks scenarios that you hate doing because they're hard or mge against someone better than you. Whatever it is, if you never break your daily routine then you'll see results. of course your personal goals and regiment can change over time, so long as it's intentional.
I wanna address a few things I saw in this thread:
1. Sens:
Changing sens constantly is fine, it forces you to lean more on training actual hand eye coordination and often gets you to focus more, as well as (assuming you're using a decent variety of sens ranges) training muscles in your hand and arm you wouldn't normally use by sticking to one sens. I would however recommend trying to find a sens that balances being both low enough that you can actually control it and high enough that you don't move like someone maneuvering in molasses.
The myth that having multiple sensitivities across games, or even classes being bad, is just that: a myth. The best aim trainer players in the world change their sens between tasks to fit the task better, so pick a sens for you that accomplishes your goals or at least strikes the most comfortable balance. The rest is overcome with practice. If you wake up one day and find you play better lowering/raising your sens, then fuck it we ball.
2. Mouse accel
Software like raw accel, not windows accel is hit or miss for people, but it is just another tool in the box you can turn to while trying to find something comfortable. What's most important is practicing enough that you can control the mouse effectively. Your sens is probably considered higher than average among scout mains but it's nothing that can't be overcome if you insist on it. You get the obvious benefits of easier 180's etc. see if that cost benefit works out to you
3. Aiming mentality
I'd recommend the opposite of someone above and say that being focused on what you're aiming at, really looking at your target and trying to predict their movement is much better than trying to empty head it. Aim training scenarios will focus on training pure raw mechanics and reactions with random bot movement, which is useful to an extent, but in game against real people you shouldn't aim like that. Some of the best in game aimers I know have just average aim trainer scores because they're just that good at predicting player movement and using that to simplify the requirement on raw aim. Aim trainers also won't teach you to use your movement to aim and definitely won't teach you how to dodge.
Many people find themselves at a junction where it feels like you’re inconsistent because it's hard to tell if you're missing because you knew where the guy was gonna go but just mechanically failed the eye hand coordination check, or if you would have hit the guy in that moment if you had only decided better where he was gonna be when you clicked. Also some days maybe your diet or sleep was shit and you feel sluggish idk.
4. Aim trainers
My best analogy for aim trainers and other tools like jump maps are the drills and exercises that athletes do. Nobody is weaving between cones in a real game of ([s]American[/s])football, the whole point was to train a basic level of agility that you can then adapt to various situations in game, but there's so much more to think about in the game that is required to win.
Someone mentioned briefly above but if you're gonna use aim trainers, make sure you're actually doing scenarios that train your weaknesses. Read: don't play that gridshot scenario unless you accept that it's just for fun. Also remember that a lot of tf2 is more than aim beyond a certain level of aim being necessary for executing competently, so there's probably diminishing returns on your time compared to say, getting to a t3 jumper level.
[spoiler]Everyone wanna get crazy aim but ain’t nobody wanna track the tiny brownian motion circles every day. - Ronnie Coleman or some shit idk[/spoiler]
I'm basically the poster child for not being talented at fps games (I started off so bad it's actually unreal) so maybe this stuff is useless or obvious to people better than me but this stuff helped me to make considerable noticeable improvement in the course of several months last year before I got addicted to mmos again. Before that my hitscan ability had basically plateaued at a solid level of suckass for years because I was just playing with a sens I couldn't control and the wrong mentality for improvement.
Your daily habit could be as simple as playing for 30-60 minutes each day some aimlab/kovaaks scenarios that you hate doing because they're hard or mge against someone better than you. Whatever it is, if you never break your daily routine then you'll see results. of course your personal goals and regiment can change over time, so long as it's intentional.
I wanna address a few things I saw in this thread:
1. Sens:
Changing sens constantly is fine, it forces you to lean more on training actual hand eye coordination and often gets you to focus more, as well as (assuming you're using a decent variety of sens ranges) training muscles in your hand and arm you wouldn't normally use by sticking to one sens. I would however recommend trying to find a sens that balances being both low enough that you can actually control it and high enough that you don't move like someone maneuvering in molasses.
The myth that having multiple sensitivities across games, or even classes being bad, is just that: a myth. The best aim trainer players in the world change their sens between tasks to fit the task better, so pick a sens for you that accomplishes your goals or at least strikes the most comfortable balance. The rest is overcome with practice. If you wake up one day and find you play better lowering/raising your sens, then fuck it we ball.
2. Mouse accel
Software like raw accel, not windows accel is hit or miss for people, but it is just another tool in the box you can turn to while trying to find something comfortable. What's most important is practicing enough that you can control the mouse effectively. Your sens is probably considered higher than average among scout mains but it's nothing that can't be overcome if you insist on it. You get the obvious benefits of easier 180's etc. see if that cost benefit works out to you
3. Aiming mentality
I'd recommend the opposite of someone above and say that being focused on what you're aiming at, really looking at your target and trying to predict their movement is much better than trying to empty head it. Aim training scenarios will focus on training pure raw mechanics and reactions with random bot movement, which is useful to an extent, but in game against real people you shouldn't aim like that. Some of the best in game aimers I know have just average aim trainer scores because they're just that good at predicting player movement and using that to simplify the requirement on raw aim. Aim trainers also won't teach you to use your movement to aim and definitely won't teach you how to dodge.
Many people find themselves at a junction where it feels like you’re inconsistent because it's hard to tell if you're missing because you knew where the guy was gonna go but just mechanically failed the eye hand coordination check, or if you would have hit the guy in that moment if you had only decided better where he was gonna be when you clicked. Also some days maybe your diet or sleep was shit and you feel sluggish idk.
4. Aim trainers
My best analogy for aim trainers and other tools like jump maps are the drills and exercises that athletes do. Nobody is weaving between cones in a real game of ([s]American[/s])football, the whole point was to train a basic level of agility that you can then adapt to various situations in game, but there's so much more to think about in the game that is required to win.
Someone mentioned briefly above but if you're gonna use aim trainers, make sure you're actually doing scenarios that train your weaknesses. Read: don't play that gridshot scenario unless you accept that it's just for fun. Also remember that a lot of tf2 is more than aim beyond a certain level of aim being necessary for executing competently, so there's probably diminishing returns on your time compared to say, getting to a t3 jumper level.
[spoiler]Everyone wanna get crazy aim but ain’t nobody wanna track the tiny brownian motion circles every day. - Ronnie Coleman or some shit idk[/spoiler]
I'm basically the poster child for not being talented at fps games (I started off so bad it's actually unreal) so maybe this stuff is useless or obvious to people better than me but this stuff helped me to make considerable noticeable improvement in the course of several months last year before I got addicted to mmos again. Before that my hitscan ability had basically plateaued at a solid level of suckass for years because I was just playing with a sens I couldn't control and the wrong mentality for improvement.
just gonna add, humidity affects your mousepad and that could be part of the reason you mention your mouse feels sluggish or fast at different times, esp at this time of year. if u feel that might be the problem look into pads like the GSR-SE Gris, LGG Saturn Pro, Artisan line
just gonna add, humidity affects your mousepad and that could be part of the reason you mention your mouse feels sluggish or fast at different times, esp at this time of year. if u feel that might be the problem look into pads like the GSR-SE Gris, LGG Saturn Pro, Artisan line
144hz, having an okay mouse, cleaning my mousepad, and playing a bit helped the most for me
144hz, having an okay mouse, cleaning my mousepad, and playing a bit helped the most for me
how would you guys recommend cleaning a mousepad and mouse?
how would you guys recommend cleaning a mousepad and mouse?
giannihow would you guys recommend cleaning a mousepad and mouse?
For a mousepad deep clean every month just take it to your shower, soak it, and lather dish soap with your hand or washcloth. From my understanding dish soap is better for getting the oils and flakes of skin out and does not leave behind a residue like a shampoo would do. Be sure to rinse it well so no soap is left. For a quick clean spray disinfectant spray on it and go over the pad with a microfiber cloth.
[quote=gianni]how would you guys recommend cleaning a mousepad and mouse?[/quote]
For a mousepad deep clean every month just take it to your shower, soak it, and lather dish soap with your hand or washcloth. From my understanding dish soap is better for getting the oils and flakes of skin out and does not leave behind a residue like a shampoo would do. Be sure to rinse it well so no soap is left. For a quick clean spray disinfectant spray on it and go over the pad with a microfiber cloth.
For a mousepad deep clean every month just take it to your shower, soak it, and lather dish soap with your hand or washcloth. From my understanding dish soap is better for getting the oils and flakes of skin out and does not leave behind a residue like a shampoo would do. Be sure to rinse it well so no soap is left. For a quick clean spray disinfectant spray on it and go over the pad with a microfiber cloth.
MiG-21bisgiannihow would you guys recommend cleaning a mousepad and mouse?For a mousepad deep clean every month just take it to your shower, soak it, and lather dish soap with your hand or washcloth. From my understanding dish soap is better for getting the oils and flakes of skin out and does not leave behind a residue like a shampoo would do. Be sure to rinse it well so no soap is left. For a quick clean spray disinfectant spray on it and go over the pad with a microfiber cloth.
Less soap is better! try not to use very much, using too much soap will make it harder to get out and will make it sink into the base of the pad and disconnect it from it's base if there's too much. be gentle, and try not to use a washcloth. dish soap is a go-to and slowly it after getting everything in it with a microfiber cloth. The goal is to be gentle, as being rough can scruff the surface of certain pads
[quote=MiG-21bis][quote=gianni]how would you guys recommend cleaning a mousepad and mouse?[/quote]
For a mousepad deep clean every month just take it to your shower, soak it, and lather dish soap with your hand or washcloth. From my understanding dish soap is better for getting the oils and flakes of skin out and does not leave behind a residue like a shampoo would do. Be sure to rinse it well so no soap is left. For a quick clean spray disinfectant spray on it and go over the pad with a microfiber cloth.[/quote]
Less soap is better! try not to use very much, using too much soap will make it harder to get out and will make it sink into the base of the pad and disconnect it from it's base if there's too much. be gentle, and try not to use a washcloth. dish soap is a go-to and slowly it after getting everything in it with a microfiber cloth. The goal is to be gentle, as being rough can scruff the surface of certain pads
For a mousepad deep clean every month just take it to your shower, soak it, and lather dish soap with your hand or washcloth. From my understanding dish soap is better for getting the oils and flakes of skin out and does not leave behind a residue like a shampoo would do. Be sure to rinse it well so no soap is left. For a quick clean spray disinfectant spray on it and go over the pad with a microfiber cloth.[/quote]
Less soap is better! try not to use very much, using too much soap will make it harder to get out and will make it sink into the base of the pad and disconnect it from it's base if there's too much. be gentle, and try not to use a washcloth. dish soap is a go-to and slowly it after getting everything in it with a microfiber cloth. The goal is to be gentle, as being rough can scruff the surface of certain pads
spend $200 on a bullshit mouse itll help a lot. Also a $100 on an artisan mousepad
spend $200 on a bullshit mouse itll help a lot. Also a $100 on an artisan mousepad
giannihow would you guys recommend cleaning a mousepad and mouse?
mouspad in the washing machine (30c) and mouse/keyboard with disinfectant wipes daily
[quote=gianni]how would you guys recommend cleaning a mousepad and mouse?[/quote]
mouspad in the washing machine (30c) and mouse/keyboard with disinfectant wipes daily
mouspad in the washing machine (30c) and mouse/keyboard with disinfectant wipes daily
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