@bellic (Ringo__Starr aka mges on an alt to steal lower level players points)
is it not enough that we make laugh at you in mumble for your horrible arguments?
you've literally only played scout, and you whenever you play a different class, it is an offclass or a ugc steel match in which you play soldier (and your rocket launcher is named making fun of yourself for playing such a 'silly' class)
I have played every class, and although it is much easier to hit splash than hitscan, soldier cannot dodge nearly as much as a scout can, but the scouts dodging abilities are dependent on the terrain making this matchup have no definite outcome
please let this thread die, it's been made before (at least on natf2), most of the higher level players say the same thing and it ends up being a massive flame thread between lower level players who think their class is the bomb
@bellic (Ringo__Starr aka mges on an alt to steal lower level players points)
is it not enough that we make laugh at you in mumble for your horrible arguments?
you've literally only played scout, and you whenever you play a different class, it is an offclass or a ugc steel match in which you play soldier (and your rocket launcher is named making fun of yourself for playing such a 'silly' class)
I have played every class, and although it is much easier to hit splash than hitscan, soldier cannot dodge nearly as much as a scout can, but the scouts dodging abilities are dependent on the terrain making this matchup [b]have no definite outcome[/b]
please let this thread die, it's been made before (at least on natf2), most of the higher level players say the same thing and it ends up being a massive flame thread between lower level players who think their class is the bomb
Depends on the skill of the player, not the class they're playing.
Depends on the skill of the player, not the class they're playing.
scout OP in 1v1 because he can pick his fights to his advantage and abuse the terrain, enjoy ur overpowered class
scout OP in 1v1 because he can pick his fights to his advantage and abuse the terrain, enjoy ur overpowered class
Soldiers can outdm scouts with shotgun alone.
Soldiers can outdm scouts with shotgun alone.
hating soldier is so 2012
hating soldier is so 2012
at lower skill levels it's easier for soldiers to outplay scouts
at middle skill levels it's easier for scouts to outplay soldiers
at top skill level they're essentially even
at any rate if they perform equally well at the same exact skill level then they're gonna come out even
this applies to the "I'm gonna kill you" matchup though, not whether one is more or less annoying than the other or what tactical advantages they have over the other or how the balance works in 6s
/opinion
at lower skill levels it's easier for soldiers to outplay scouts
at middle skill levels it's easier for scouts to outplay soldiers
at top skill level they're essentially even
at any rate if they perform equally well at the same exact skill level then they're gonna come out even
this applies to the "I'm gonna kill you" matchup though, not whether one is more or less annoying than the other or what tactical advantages they have over the other or how the balance works in 6s
/opinion
ScubaSquidNo class is better than the other
DEMOMAN?!
[quote=ScubaSquid]No class is better than the other[/quote]
DEMOMAN?!
As a roamer, I'm obligated to say my class is shit and that's why I get pooped on.
As a roamer, I'm obligated to say my class is shit and that's why I get pooped on.
200 hp > 125 hp
get that shotty vs shotty
200 hp > 125 hp
get that shotty vs shotty
Rofl this thread is so shitty.
Rofl this thread is so shitty.
There isn't an answer to this as outlined previously.
But man... when you get that "triple jump" going - jump, surf, jump - scout can feel pretty invincible.
There isn't an answer to this as outlined previously.
But man... when you get that "triple jump" going - jump, surf, jump - scout can feel pretty invincible.
A lot of the time the scout will get the kill simply because his weapon fires shots faster. If it takes two shots minimum for either class to take down the other, doesn't the scout have advantage simply because he (in a vacuum) always gets the first opportunity to secure the kill?
A lot of the time the scout will get the kill simply because his weapon fires shots faster. If it takes two shots minimum for either class to take down the other, doesn't the scout have advantage simply because he (in a vacuum) always gets the first opportunity to secure the kill?
i dont really have an opinion on the matter but when i get out 1v1'd as scout i call soldier easy and when i get out 1v1'd as soldier i call scout overpowered
i dont really have an opinion on the matter but when i get out 1v1'd as scout i call soldier easy and when i get out 1v1'd as soldier i call scout overpowered
ringo star you sound like dflame right now
ringo star you sound like dflame right now
In a limited 1v1 arena, mge type scenario, i feel like it's a soldier's fight to lose. If the soldier plays perfectly and hits every shot they will win every time. Scout v soldier is about forcing the soldier to fuck up and not hit their shots while also consistently hitting your own. Fortunately scout has enough tools to do that so that it ends up being more about skill and who can read their opponent better.
In a limited 1v1 arena, mge type scenario, i feel like it's a soldier's fight to lose. If the soldier plays perfectly and hits every shot they will win every time. Scout v soldier is about forcing the soldier to fuck up and not hit their shots while also consistently hitting your own. Fortunately scout has enough tools to do that so that it ends up being more about skill and who can read their opponent better.
theoretically if both people have perfect aim, shotgun soldier 200hp vs 125 shotgun
soldier wins 100% of the time
theoretically if both people have perfect aim, shotgun soldier 200hp vs 125 shotgun
soldier wins 100% of the time
botmode@bellic (Ringo__Starr aka mges on an alt to steal lower level players points)
is it not enough that we make laugh at you in mumble for your horrible arguments?
you've literally only played scout, and you whenever you play a different class, it is an offclass or a ugc steel match in which you play soldier (and your rocket launcher is named making fun of yourself for playing such a 'silly' class)
I have played every class, and although it is much easier to hit splash than hitscan, soldier cannot dodge nearly as much as a scout can, but the scouts dodging abilities are dependent on the terrain making this matchup have no definite outcome
please let this thread die, it's been made before (at least on natf2), most of the higher level players say the same thing and it ends up being a massive flame thread between lower level players who think their class is the bomb
nigga why u so mad
[quote=botmode]@bellic (Ringo__Starr aka mges on an alt to steal lower level players points)
is it not enough that we make laugh at you in mumble for your horrible arguments?
you've literally only played scout, and you whenever you play a different class, it is an offclass or a ugc steel match in which you play soldier (and your rocket launcher is named making fun of yourself for playing such a 'silly' class)
I have played every class, and although it is much easier to hit splash than hitscan, soldier cannot dodge nearly as much as a scout can, but the scouts dodging abilities are dependent on the terrain making this matchup [b]have no definite outcome[/b]
please let this thread die, it's been made before (at least on natf2), most of the higher level players say the same thing and it ends up being a massive flame thread between lower level players who think their class is the bomb[/quote]
nigga why u so mad
If soldier hits first rocket for any splash he should win.. If scout dodges first rocket he should win. Online vs lan huge difference... Too many factors... Thread dumb
If soldier hits first rocket for any splash he should win.. If scout dodges first rocket he should win. Online vs lan huge difference... Too many factors... Thread dumb
PlatinumThread dumb
it is declared
[quote=Platinum]Thread dumb[/quote]
it is declared
yo I remember this guy named BuGGyBoBerl would comment on every competitive tf2 video and other places asking if a scout or soldier would win in a 1v1 for like 2 years.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2829676
http://etf2l.org/forum/tactics/topic-17870/
http://www.complexitygaming.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3475
http://forfairplay.com/movies/mIsu5Op6oeY-esea-tf2-s6-lan
I wonder if he ever found his answer
trogif you're both bad soldier will win
if you're both good i think scout would win but you'd have to ask someone goodalso depends on how gay the scout is willing to play
U salty?
[quote=trog]if you're both bad soldier will win
if you're both good i think scout would win but you'd have to ask someone goodalso depends on how gay the scout is willing to play[/quote]
U salty?