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Stream performance research redux
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45 more FPS by enabling aero (for OBS screen capture)? Wow that's crazy.

45 more FPS by enabling aero (for OBS screen capture)? Wow that's crazy.
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Seems great but it limits my fps in tf2 to 60 :\

Seems great but it limits my fps in tf2 to 60 :\
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LangepuddddSeems great but it limits my fps in tf2 to 60 :\
Try it with Aero off. I've heard that if you have an ATI card, Aero results in forced VSync.

I posted on thier fourms and they said you have to stream with dxtory if you dont wnat it limiting your fps

[quote=Lange][quote=pudddd]Seems great but it limits my fps in tf2 to 60 :\[/quote]

Try it with Aero off. I've heard that if you have an ATI card, Aero results in forced VSync.[/quote]
I posted on thier fourms and they said you have to stream with dxtory if you dont wnat it limiting your fps
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LangeIt's not limiting my FPS when I stream. I have an NVidia card with VSync forced off in my drivers. In fact, I actually can't force it on if I try for windowed applications.

EDIT: I just read your thread and I think you are confused. The "FPS" option you set in OBS is not your desired in-game FPS, and it has no bearing on your in-game FPS. It is the FPS that your stream will run at.

Yes i know, yet it makes my in game fps go to 60

[quote=Lange]It's not limiting my FPS when I stream. I have an NVidia card with VSync forced off in my drivers. In fact, I actually can't force it on if I try for windowed applications.

EDIT: I just read [url=http://obsproject.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=90]your thread[/url] and I think you are confused. The "FPS" option you set in OBS is not your desired in-game FPS, and it has no bearing on your in-game FPS. It is the FPS that your stream will run at.[/quote]


Yes i know, yet it makes my in game fps go to 60
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Played around with it for a while.
I was unable to stream tf2 AT all with xsplit or dxtory but this has just enough to get me playing.

Only problem is it feels like my monitor isn't doing 120hz when I play, like certain things feel laggier.
I am getting above 120fps however though so i dont know if thats the issue. :/

EDIT: it felt significantly smoother if i launched OBS after tf2 was launched.

also here is a small quality sample.

http://www.twitch.tv/withadancenumber/b/334941966

would people consider this watchable?

Played around with it for a while.
I was unable to stream tf2 AT all with xsplit or dxtory but this has just enough to get me playing.

Only problem is it feels like my monitor isn't doing 120hz when I play, like certain things feel laggier.
I am getting above 120fps however though so i dont know if thats the issue. :/


EDIT: it felt significantly smoother if i launched OBS after tf2 was launched.

also here is a small quality sample.

http://www.twitch.tv/withadancenumber/b/334941966

would people consider this watchable?
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what about the audio quality between obs and xsplit?

what about the audio quality between obs and xsplit?
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why is it that OBS has better performance with Aero on? seems strange

why is it that OBS has better performance with Aero on? seems strange
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Is there any way that I could bring my transparent stream chat overlay and my "Currently Playing" scrolling title to OBS?

I'd love a performance increase, but I'd hate to sacrifice these things form my stream.

Is there any way that I could bring my transparent stream chat overlay and my "Currently Playing" scrolling title to OBS?

I'd love a performance increase, but I'd hate to sacrifice these things form my stream.
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I've tested this, and OBS seems to increase my scoreboard ping (latency?) by 20ms, while Xsplit appears to have no effect. Actual ping stays about the same though.

Edit: I do seem to get better local performance though. It probably has a lot to do with my computer at the moment.

I've tested this, and OBS seems to increase my scoreboard ping (latency?) by 20ms, while Xsplit appears to have no effect. Actual ping stays about the same though.

Edit: I do seem to get better local performance though. It probably has a lot to do with my computer at the moment.
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My fps is capped at 121, and while using OBS, tf2 tells me I'm getting 120 fps, but it feels like every other frame is being dropped. It's a lot more sluggish than when I'm playing normally. My computer is pretty shitty though. I get 30 fps with the dxtory/xsplit setup.

My fps is capped at 121, and while using OBS, tf2 tells me I'm getting 120 fps, but it feels like every other frame is being dropped. It's a lot more sluggish than when I'm playing normally. My computer is pretty shitty though. I get 30 fps with the dxtory/xsplit setup.
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obs seems to be worse for me in terms of similar settings than xsplit - i don't use dxtory for either one

i was trying to stream dota but video quality seemed a lot more laggy despite having very similar settings. any idea what could have been happening?

input lag seemed similar(it's not really much of an issue, very very minimal)

amd 955, 8 gb ram, 275 nvidia card

edit/note: this lag is only there when i play, not when i spectate?

obs seems to be worse for me in terms of similar settings than xsplit - i don't use dxtory for either one

i was trying to stream dota but video quality seemed a lot more laggy despite having very similar settings. any idea what could have been happening?

input lag seemed similar(it's not really much of an issue, very very minimal)

amd 955, 8 gb ram, 275 nvidia card

edit/note: this lag is only there when i play, not when i spectate?
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If you're having latency problems"

Try turning down the "send buffer" size in the advanced settings, and see if that doesn't have an effect on your ping. Try 8196, or if you have the latest daily build, 4096.

This worked for me. My scoreboard ping now hovers around 40 like it usually does.

If you're having latency problems"
[quote]Try turning down the "send buffer" size in the advanced settings, and see if that doesn't have an effect on your ping. Try 8196, or if you have the latest daily build, 4096.[/quote]

This worked for me. My scoreboard ping now hovers around 40 like it usually does.
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I did testing with OBS as well. 1090T just set affinity to the last 3 cores while leave the first 3 to your game ect... Didn't notice any game degradation and the stream was clear.

For affinity settings.
Task manager > Processes > Right click OBS** process > Set Affinity > set to desired processors.

I did testing with OBS as well. 1090T just set affinity to the last 3 cores while leave the first 3 to your game ect... Didn't notice any game degradation and the stream was clear.

For affinity settings.
Task manager > Processes > Right click OBS** process > Set Affinity > set to desired processors.
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yeah i get mouse input lag with OBS...stopped using it

yeah i get mouse input lag with OBS...stopped using it
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To anyone using OBS: Is your ping higher when using OBS vs xsplit? For me its about 20 more with the same settings and even lower. Thats why I made the post about tcp relay on their forums.

To anyone using OBS: Is your ping higher when using OBS vs xsplit? For me its about 20 more with the same settings and even lower. Thats why I made the post about tcp relay on their forums.
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KillertomatoTo anyone using OBS: Is your ping higher when using OBS vs xsplit? For me its about 20 more with the same settings and even lower. Thats why I made the post about tcp relay on their forums.

See

hookyIf you're having latency problemsTry turning down the "send buffer" size in the advanced settings, and see if that doesn't have an effect on your ping. Try 8196, or if you have the latest daily build, 4096.
This worked for me. My scoreboard ping now hovers around 40 like it usually does.
[quote=Killertomato]To anyone using OBS: Is your ping higher when using OBS vs xsplit? For me its about 20 more with the same settings and even lower. Thats why I made the post about tcp relay on their forums.[/quote]

See [quote=hooky]If you're having latency problems
[quote]Try turning down the "send buffer" size in the advanced settings, and see if that doesn't have an effect on your ping. Try 8196, or if you have the latest daily build, 4096.[/quote]

This worked for me. My scoreboard ping now hovers around 40 like it usually does.[/quote]
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Very nice write up Lange

I am going to check out obs but I doubt I will be able to live without the delay server from xsplit, although I imagine I can do something locally - anyone know of a way?

Very nice write up Lange

I am going to check out obs but I doubt I will be able to live without the delay server from xsplit, although I imagine I can do something locally - anyone know of a way?
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huds.tf
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Really nice program this. I don't get nearly as much framedrop using this as I do with xsplit.

Seem to have a problem where it disconnects me quite a lot while I'm playing, though. Anyone else had that yet? Already made a topic about it on their forums.

Really nice program this. I don't get nearly as much framedrop using this as I do with xsplit.

Seem to have a problem where it disconnects me quite a lot while I'm playing, though. Anyone else had that yet? Already made a topic about it on their forums.
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GreaverVery nice write up Lange

I am going to check out obs but I doubt I will be able to live without the delay server from xsplit, although I imagine I can do something locally - anyone know of a way?

It's a planned feature.

[quote=Greaver]Very nice write up Lange

I am going to check out obs but I doubt I will be able to live without the delay server from xsplit, although I imagine I can do something locally - anyone know of a way?[/quote]
It's a planned feature.
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is it normal to get higher fps in a norberdered window then in full screen? i had like constant 200 and i usually get like 90-130 :3

is it normal to get higher fps in a norberdered window then in full screen? i had like constant 200 and i usually get like 90-130 :3
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hookyIt's a planned feature.

Nice

We cast TF2 directly from the match servers down these ways so its a must for me to use it for coverage

[quote=hooky]It's a planned feature.[/quote]

Nice

We cast TF2 directly from the match servers down these ways so its a must for me to use it for coverage
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Could you not just ask John to enable delay on your channel?

Could you not just ask John to enable delay on your channel?
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Twitch
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Tried OBS, in love.

Tried OBS, in love.
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huds.tf
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I wonder if anyone here can help me out, as help over at OBS is pretty scarce.

As soon as I start trying to play, I get disconnected from my stream. I could sit in the in-game menu for hours and the stream would be fine. As soon as I even try to play, it'll disconnect me without even trying.

Any ideas?

I wonder if anyone here can help me out, as help over at OBS is pretty scarce.

As soon as I start trying to play, I get disconnected from my stream. I could sit in the in-game menu for hours and the stream would be fine. As soon as I even try to play, it'll disconnect me without even trying.

Any ideas?
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this is amazing, it lets me stream on a dual core old computer. and also performs way better with aero.

this is amazing, it lets me stream on a dual core old computer. and also performs way better with aero.
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i get mouse lag whenever i stream, any way to fix this?

i get mouse lag whenever i stream, any way to fix this?
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performance likely varies a lot based on hardware. i didnt do measurements, but desktop capture was unbearable with aero on/off in tf2 when I tried.

i5 2nd gen/560ti/8gig ram

performance likely varies a lot based on hardware. i didnt do measurements, but desktop capture was unbearable with aero on/off in tf2 when I tried.

i5 2nd gen/560ti/8gig ram
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atmodid switching to OBS capture solve your problem here Lange? http://obsproject.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=64

I only tested it for a little bit, but using OBS's screen capture did seem to alleviate the input lag problems I was having. I still need to play with it more though and see how it feels in a 6v6.

As far as I can tell this input lag is a strange problem specific to me, so you guys shouldn't worry about it.[/quote]
I have the same issue with every streaming tool, and it's mostly lag from mouse movements, keyboard input seems a bit better.

[quote=atmo]did switching to OBS capture solve your problem here Lange? http://obsproject.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=64[/quote]

I only tested it for a little bit, but using OBS's screen capture did seem to alleviate the input lag problems I was having. I still need to play with it more though and see how it feels in a 6v6.

As far as I can tell this input lag is a strange problem specific to me, so you guys shouldn't worry about it.[/quote]
I have the same issue with every streaming tool, and it's mostly lag from mouse movements, keyboard input seems a bit better.
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is there anyway to capture fullscreen games right now or is it not added yet?

is there anyway to capture fullscreen games right now or is it not added yet?
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Can someone who has that mouse input lag problem tell me if the lowering your send buffer size to the 4096 helps? That was my solution to the problem.

Can someone who has that mouse input lag problem tell me if the lowering your send buffer size to the 4096 helps? That was my solution to the problem.
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