It's strange, you seemed so proud of yourself in this thread that you made.
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It's strange, you seemed so proud of yourself in [url=http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/5188]this thread[/url] that you made.
i was just laughing at all the stupid shit I had done
i was just laughing at all the stupid shit I had done
I ran heavy full time and got a day ban
It was probably a mistake can someone extend it indefinitely please?
I ran heavy full time and got a day ban
It was probably a mistake can someone extend it indefinitely please?
It was probably a mistake can someone extend it indefinitely please?
defypeople do off class on occasion yeah, but i think it was pretty childish when you joined pug na through atf2/mibbit on a different name for like an hour straight and fog had to keep banning over and over, its one thing to evade ban but come on dude even you know that was pretty dumb
lol obviously it was stupid
[quote=defy]people do off class on occasion yeah, but i think it was pretty childish when you joined pug na through atf2/mibbit on a different name for like an hour straight and fog had to keep banning over and over, its one thing to evade ban but come on dude even you know that was pretty dumb[/quote]
lol obviously it was stupid
lol obviously it was stupid
PhraktureI ran heavy full time and got a day ban
It was probably a mistake can someone extend it indefinitely please?
aristotle banned me for a week for running heavy for 1 round (pushing last), even though his team had a heavy defending last. what a guy!
[quote=Phrakture]I ran heavy full time and got a day ban
It was probably a mistake can someone extend it indefinitely please?[/quote]
aristotle banned me for a week for running heavy for 1 round (pushing last), even though his team had a heavy defending last. what a guy!
It was probably a mistake can someone extend it indefinitely please?[/quote]
aristotle banned me for a week for running heavy for 1 round (pushing last), even though his team had a heavy defending last. what a guy!
crespiIt's strange, you seemed so proud of yourself in this thread that you made.
either you're a straight up asshole or you can't detect self deprecating humor.
either way you're being scummy.
[quote=crespi]It's strange, you seemed so proud of yourself in [url=http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/5188]this thread[/url] that you made.[/quote]
either you're a straight up asshole or you can't detect self deprecating humor.
either way you're being scummy.
either you're a straight up asshole or you can't detect self deprecating humor.
either way you're being scummy.
mgib#23 at no point was I sniping and offclassing to cause rage. I was simply doing it because I had fun doing. its a video game and if people get mad over that, theyve got bigger problems
Sure doesn't sound like he has matured.. At least recognize that your incessant offclassing was taking away from the fun of the other 11/12 people.
[quote=mgib]#23 at no point was I sniping and offclassing to cause rage. I was simply doing it because I had fun doing. its a video game and if people get mad over that, theyve got bigger problems[/quote]
Sure doesn't sound like he has matured.. At least recognize that your incessant offclassing was taking away from the fun of the other 11/12 people.
Sure doesn't sound like he has matured.. At least recognize that your incessant offclassing was taking away from the fun of the other 11/12 people.
i can tell u one thing for sure.. whether mgib is banned or not, will have no influence on the integrity of pug na
i can tell u one thing for sure.. whether mgib is banned or not, will have no influence on the integrity of pug na
just unban him and if he runs full time sniper give him a month ban or something
i dont know how someone justifies a life long ban for running sniper
just unban him and if he runs full time sniper give him a month ban or something
i dont know how someone justifies a life long ban for running sniper
i dont know how someone justifies a life long ban for running sniper
FIGHT FOR FREEDOM: STICK UP TO ABUSIVE BANS BY WASTING ADMINS' TIME!!!!
actually that's a terrible idea but i do it myself anyway
#admingriefersanonymous
FIGHT FOR FREEDOM: STICK UP TO ABUSIVE BANS BY WASTING ADMINS' TIME!!!!
actually that's a terrible idea but i do it myself anyway
#admingriefersanonymous
actually that's a terrible idea but i do it myself anyway
#admingriefersanonymous
Give him a chance. He says he won't do it anymore. If you guys seriously hate him this much put him on 'probation' he won't do anything wrong and if he does then you can reban him. What is the harm? He's been banned for 2 years that a long ass time. He deserves a chance.
Give him a chance. He says he won't do it anymore. If you guys seriously hate him this much put him on 'probation' he won't do anything wrong and if he does then you can reban him. What is the harm? He's been banned for 2 years that a long ass time. He deserves a chance.
#23 at no point was I sniping and offclassing to cause rage. I was simply doing it because I had fun doing. its a video game and if people get mad over that, theyve got bigger problems
I liked the way you were handling this thread until you said this...
this is the mentality of a lot of people that off-class and despite what you think, it really hinders pugs
[quote] #23 at no point was I sniping and offclassing to cause rage. I was simply doing it because I had fun doing. its a video game and if people get mad over that, theyve got bigger problems [/quote]
I liked the way you were handling this thread until you said this...
this is the mentality of a lot of people that off-class and despite what you think, it really hinders pugs
I liked the way you were handling this thread until you said this...
this is the mentality of a lot of people that off-class and despite what you think, it really hinders pugs
crespiIt's strange, you seemed so proud of yourself in this thread that you made.
dunked. just go pub.
[quote=crespi]It's strange, you seemed so proud of yourself in [url=http://teamfortress.tv/forum/thread/5188]this thread[/url] that you made.[/quote]
dunked. just go pub.
dunked. just go pub.
OblivionageGive him a chance. He says he won't do it anymore. If you guys seriously hate him this much put him on 'probation' he won't do anything wrong and if he does then you can reban him. What is the harm? He's been banned for 2 years that a long ass time. He deserves a chance.
all we're saying is give mgib a chance
quick mgib do a john lennon cover and the admins will have no choice but to unban you
[quote=Oblivionage]Give him a chance. He says he won't do it anymore. If you guys seriously hate him this much put him on 'probation' he won't do anything wrong and if he does then you can reban him. What is the harm? He's been banned for 2 years that a long ass time. He deserves a chance.[/quote]
all we're saying is give mgib a chance
quick mgib do a john lennon cover and the admins will have no choice but to unban you
all we're saying is give mgib a chance
quick mgib do a john lennon cover and the admins will have no choice but to unban you
mgib I like you, but I have to agree with administration when I think about this issue from their point of view:
They are responsible for moderating a pugging environment for the community. Regardless of how much you, I, or anyone else may or may not like the current administration, you have to realize how much of their time has been collectively absorbed trying to manage your activity on their service. A service for which they volunteer to administer free of charge by the way.
Based on the amount of times you have warranted their attention due to various disruptions, I can understand why they would be extremely reluctant to include you back under their watch. In other words it's much simpler for them to exile you.
Like I said, I like you, but I just don't think anyone has presented this line of thought yet and I think it's fair to bring up in discussion.
mgib I like you, but I have to agree with administration when I think about this issue from their point of view:
They are responsible for moderating a pugging environment for the community. Regardless of how much you, I, or anyone else may or may not like the current administration, you have to realize how much of their time has been collectively absorbed trying to manage your activity on their service. A service for which they volunteer to administer free of charge by the way.
Based on the amount of times you have warranted their attention due to various disruptions, I can understand why they would be extremely reluctant to include you back under their watch. In other words it's much simpler for them to exile you.
Like I said, I like you, but I just don't think anyone has presented this line of thought yet and I think it's fair to bring up in discussion.
They are responsible for moderating a pugging environment for the community. Regardless of how much you, I, or anyone else may or may not like the current administration, you have to realize how much of their time has been collectively absorbed trying to manage your activity on their service. A service for which they volunteer to administer free of charge by the way.
Based on the amount of times you have warranted their attention due to various disruptions, I can understand why they would be extremely reluctant to include you back under their watch. In other words it's much simpler for them to exile you.
Like I said, I like you, but I just don't think anyone has presented this line of thought yet and I think it's fair to bring up in discussion.
I think an apology thread would have been better than this.
I think an apology thread would have been better than this.
quit being a bunch of bitches and get the fuck over it. way worse shit than someone full time sniping (like someone full time sniping with 200 ping) happens in every other pug.
quit being a bunch of bitches and get the fuck over it. way worse shit than someone full time sniping (like someone full time sniping with 200 ping) happens in every other pug.
grillz#23 at no point was I sniping and offclassing to cause rage. I was simply doing it because I had fun doing. its a video game and if people get mad over that, theyve got bigger problems
I liked the way you were handling this thread until you said this...
this is the mentality of a lot of people that off-class and despite what you think, it really hinders pugs
I agree its not a good mentality and a fairly selfish one at that. but as I said in my next post after that one, I do agree and I don't plan on off classing anymore if I'm unbanned. I used to not realize like u said how much it hinders pugs because to me it doesn't hinder pugs. I have never cared if people off class because to me it's a part of the game that I really enjoy.
I continued to do it because I didn't realize it was annoying so many people. It was unintentional and I was oblivious of how it was affecting others. I feel like I have matured somewhat since then and I agree that I was in the wrong.
One thing I do not agree with however is the fact that if off classing works (not saying it always does), then why should the person have to stop. If you can't come up with a way to counter what they are doing, why should they be punished? I remember when enigma would run pyro because people had a difficult time countering it. Is that not a viable strategy? A lot of people instead of finding ways to counter it, went straight to admins and complained that it was ruining pugs. I have found that a lot of people don't enjoy playing against new ideas. I would run direct hit a lot and people would not take it seriously and always thought I was fucking with them when in reality I genuinely thought it was a good weapon and wanted to try and get good with it and see if it was a viable weapon. I always found it silly that we should always run the same cookie cutter classes and loadouts and not try to stray from the norm. I guess I'm one of the few that feels this way though because clearly a lot of people do not agree with me.
sorry for the semi-rant haha
[quote=grillz][quote] #23 at no point was I sniping and offclassing to cause rage. I was simply doing it because I had fun doing. its a video game and if people get mad over that, theyve got bigger problems [/quote]
I liked the way you were handling this thread until you said this...
this is the mentality of a lot of people that off-class and despite what you think, it really hinders pugs[/quote]
I agree its not a good mentality and a fairly selfish one at that. but as I said in my next post after that one, I do agree and I don't plan on off classing anymore if I'm unbanned. I used to not realize like u said how much it hinders pugs because to me it doesn't hinder pugs. I have never cared if people off class because to me it's a part of the game that I really enjoy.
I continued to do it because I didn't realize it was annoying so many people. It was unintentional and I was oblivious of how it was affecting others. I feel like I have matured somewhat since then and I agree that I was in the wrong.
One thing I do not agree with however is the fact that if off classing works (not saying it always does), then why should the person have to stop. If you can't come up with a way to counter what they are doing, why should they be punished? I remember when enigma would run pyro because people had a difficult time countering it. Is that not a viable strategy? A lot of people instead of finding ways to counter it, went straight to admins and complained that it was ruining pugs. I have found that a lot of people don't enjoy playing against new ideas. I would run direct hit a lot and people would not take it seriously and always thought I was fucking with them when in reality I genuinely thought it was a good weapon and wanted to try and get good with it and see if it was a viable weapon. I always found it silly that we should always run the same cookie cutter classes and loadouts and not try to stray from the norm. I guess I'm one of the few that feels this way though because clearly a lot of people do not agree with me.
sorry for the semi-rant haha
I liked the way you were handling this thread until you said this...
this is the mentality of a lot of people that off-class and despite what you think, it really hinders pugs[/quote]
I agree its not a good mentality and a fairly selfish one at that. but as I said in my next post after that one, I do agree and I don't plan on off classing anymore if I'm unbanned. I used to not realize like u said how much it hinders pugs because to me it doesn't hinder pugs. I have never cared if people off class because to me it's a part of the game that I really enjoy.
I continued to do it because I didn't realize it was annoying so many people. It was unintentional and I was oblivious of how it was affecting others. I feel like I have matured somewhat since then and I agree that I was in the wrong.
One thing I do not agree with however is the fact that if off classing works (not saying it always does), then why should the person have to stop. If you can't come up with a way to counter what they are doing, why should they be punished? I remember when enigma would run pyro because people had a difficult time countering it. Is that not a viable strategy? A lot of people instead of finding ways to counter it, went straight to admins and complained that it was ruining pugs. I have found that a lot of people don't enjoy playing against new ideas. I would run direct hit a lot and people would not take it seriously and always thought I was fucking with them when in reality I genuinely thought it was a good weapon and wanted to try and get good with it and see if it was a viable weapon. I always found it silly that we should always run the same cookie cutter classes and loadouts and not try to stray from the norm. I guess I'm one of the few that feels this way though because clearly a lot of people do not agree with me.
sorry for the semi-rant haha
thinkmgib I like you, but I have to agree with administration when I think about this issue from their point of view:
They are responsible for moderating a pugging environment for the community. Regardless of how much you, I, or anyone else may or may not like the current administration, you have to realize how much of their time has been collectively absorbed trying to manage your activity on their service. A service for which they volunteer to administer free of charge by the way.
Based on the amount of times you have warranted their attention due to various disruptions, I can understand why they would be extremely reluctant to include you back under their watch. In other words it's much simpler for them to exile you.
Like I said, I like you, but I just don't think anyone has presented this line of thought yet and I think it's fair to bring up in discussion.
Yeah I agree with the point of view you are portraying. From their side it is much easier to exile me since I was causing a lot of disruption in a channel that they ran for free. Well put :)
[quote=think]mgib I like you, but I have to agree with administration when I think about this issue from their point of view:
They are responsible for moderating a pugging environment for the community. Regardless of how much you, I, or anyone else may or may not like the current administration, you have to realize how much of their time has been collectively absorbed trying to manage your activity on their service. A service for which they volunteer to administer free of charge by the way.
Based on the amount of times you have warranted their attention due to various disruptions, I can understand why they would be extremely reluctant to include you back under their watch. In other words it's much simpler for them to exile you.
Like I said, I like you, but I just don't think anyone has presented this line of thought yet and I think it's fair to bring up in discussion.[/quote]
Yeah I agree with the point of view you are portraying. From their side it is much easier to exile me since I was causing a lot of disruption in a channel that they ran for free. Well put :)
They are responsible for moderating a pugging environment for the community. Regardless of how much you, I, or anyone else may or may not like the current administration, you have to realize how much of their time has been collectively absorbed trying to manage your activity on their service. A service for which they volunteer to administer free of charge by the way.
Based on the amount of times you have warranted their attention due to various disruptions, I can understand why they would be extremely reluctant to include you back under their watch. In other words it's much simpler for them to exile you.
Like I said, I like you, but I just don't think anyone has presented this line of thought yet and I think it's fair to bring up in discussion.[/quote]
Yeah I agree with the point of view you are portraying. From their side it is much easier to exile me since I was causing a lot of disruption in a channel that they ran for free. Well put :)
mgibgrillz#23 at no point was I sniping and offclassing to cause rage. I was simply doing it because I had fun doing. its a video game and if people get mad over that, theyve got bigger problems
I liked the way you were handling this thread until you said this...
this is the mentality of a lot of people that off-class and despite what you think, it really hinders pugs
I agree its not a good mentality and a fairly selfish one at that. but as I said in my next post after that one, I do agree and I don't plan on off classing anymore if I'm unbanned. I used to not realize like u said how much it hinders pugs because to me it doesn't hinder pugs. I have never cared if people off class because to me it's a part of the game that I really enjoy.
I continued to do it because I didn't realize it was annoying so many people. It was unintentional and I was oblivious of how it was affecting others. I feel like I have matured somewhat since then and I agree that I was in the wrong.
One thing I do not agree with however is the fact that if off classing works (not saying it always does), then why should the person have to stop. If you can't come up with a way to counter what they are doing, why should they be punished? I remember when enigma would run pyro because people had a difficult time countering it. Is that not a viable strategy? A lot of people instead of finding ways to counter it, went straight to admins and complained that it was ruining pugs. I have found that a lot of people don't enjoy playing against new ideas. I would run direct hit a lot and people would not take it seriously and always thought I was fucking with them when in reality I genuinely thought it was a good weapon and wanted to try and get good with it and see if it was a viable weapon. I always found it silly that we should always run the same cookie cutter classes and loadouts and not try to stray from the norm. I guess I'm one of the few that feels this way though because clearly a lot of people do not agree with me.
sorry for the semi-rant haha
wait guys i wasnt here 2 years ago, was any form of communication not invented back then? was communication through mumble, tf2 text chat, forums, or steam messaging not available?
Because otherwise im going to call bullshit on you not knowing it was pissing people off.
i dont really care about this whole situation but the fact that you seem to be blatantly lying has to be called out.
[quote=mgib][quote=grillz][quote] #23 at no point was I sniping and offclassing to cause rage. I was simply doing it because I had fun doing. its a video game and if people get mad over that, theyve got bigger problems [/quote]
I liked the way you were handling this thread until you said this...
this is the mentality of a lot of people that off-class and despite what you think, it really hinders pugs[/quote]
I agree its not a good mentality and a fairly selfish one at that. but as I said in my next post after that one, I do agree and I don't plan on off classing anymore if I'm unbanned. I used to not realize like u said how much it hinders pugs because to me it doesn't hinder pugs. I have never cared if people off class because to me it's a part of the game that I really enjoy.
I continued to do it because I didn't realize it was annoying so many people. It was unintentional and I was oblivious of how it was affecting others. I feel like I have matured somewhat since then and I agree that I was in the wrong.
One thing I do not agree with however is the fact that if off classing works (not saying it always does), then why should the person have to stop. If you can't come up with a way to counter what they are doing, why should they be punished? I remember when enigma would run pyro because people had a difficult time countering it. Is that not a viable strategy? A lot of people instead of finding ways to counter it, went straight to admins and complained that it was ruining pugs. I have found that a lot of people don't enjoy playing against new ideas. I would run direct hit a lot and people would not take it seriously and always thought I was fucking with them when in reality I genuinely thought it was a good weapon and wanted to try and get good with it and see if it was a viable weapon. I always found it silly that we should always run the same cookie cutter classes and loadouts and not try to stray from the norm. I guess I'm one of the few that feels this way though because clearly a lot of people do not agree with me.
sorry for the semi-rant haha[/quote]
wait guys i wasnt here 2 years ago, was any form of communication not invented back then? was communication through mumble, tf2 text chat, forums, or steam messaging not available?
Because otherwise im going to call bullshit on you not knowing it was pissing people off.
i dont really care about this whole situation but the fact that you seem to be blatantly lying has to be called out.
I liked the way you were handling this thread until you said this...
this is the mentality of a lot of people that off-class and despite what you think, it really hinders pugs[/quote]
I agree its not a good mentality and a fairly selfish one at that. but as I said in my next post after that one, I do agree and I don't plan on off classing anymore if I'm unbanned. I used to not realize like u said how much it hinders pugs because to me it doesn't hinder pugs. I have never cared if people off class because to me it's a part of the game that I really enjoy.
I continued to do it because I didn't realize it was annoying so many people. It was unintentional and I was oblivious of how it was affecting others. I feel like I have matured somewhat since then and I agree that I was in the wrong.
One thing I do not agree with however is the fact that if off classing works (not saying it always does), then why should the person have to stop. If you can't come up with a way to counter what they are doing, why should they be punished? I remember when enigma would run pyro because people had a difficult time countering it. Is that not a viable strategy? A lot of people instead of finding ways to counter it, went straight to admins and complained that it was ruining pugs. I have found that a lot of people don't enjoy playing against new ideas. I would run direct hit a lot and people would not take it seriously and always thought I was fucking with them when in reality I genuinely thought it was a good weapon and wanted to try and get good with it and see if it was a viable weapon. I always found it silly that we should always run the same cookie cutter classes and loadouts and not try to stray from the norm. I guess I'm one of the few that feels this way though because clearly a lot of people do not agree with me.
sorry for the semi-rant haha[/quote]
wait guys i wasnt here 2 years ago, was any form of communication not invented back then? was communication through mumble, tf2 text chat, forums, or steam messaging not available?
Because otherwise im going to call bullshit on you not knowing it was pissing people off.
i dont really care about this whole situation but the fact that you seem to be blatantly lying has to be called out.
communicating emotions over the internet when your communication is impersonal is actually really fucking difficult by the way
communicating emotions over the internet when your communication is impersonal is actually really fucking difficult by the way
Just unban him it's been such a long time at this point that it shouldn't matter.
I don't think pleading ignorance that playing against a sniper full-time is annoying to people is helping your case though.
Just unban him it's been such a long time at this point that it shouldn't matter.
I don't think pleading ignorance that playing against a sniper full-time is annoying to people is helping your case though.
I don't think pleading ignorance that playing against a sniper full-time is annoying to people is helping your case though.
just unban the guy if he causes more trouble then ban him again simple
christ
just unban the guy if he causes more trouble then ban him again simple
christ
christ
boppetjust unban the guy if he causes more trouble then ban him again simple
christ
wow, it's almost like everyone else on this thread hasn't said the exact same thing
[quote=boppet]just unban the guy if he causes more trouble then ban him again simple
christ[/quote]
wow, it's almost like everyone else on this thread hasn't said the exact same thing
christ[/quote]
wow, it's almost like everyone else on this thread hasn't said the exact same thing
jermangboppetjust unban the guy if he causes more trouble then ban him again simple
christ
wow, it's almost like everyone else on this thread hasn't said the exact same thing
wow, it's almost like I don't care
[quote=jermang][quote=boppet]just unban the guy if he causes more trouble then ban him again simple
christ[/quote]
wow, it's almost like everyone else on this thread hasn't said the exact same thing[/quote]
wow, it's almost like I don't care
christ[/quote]
wow, it's almost like everyone else on this thread hasn't said the exact same thing[/quote]
wow, it's almost like I don't care
boppetjermangwow, it's almost like I don't careboppetjust unban the guy if he causes more trouble then ban him again simple
christ
wow, it's almost like everyone else on this thread hasn't said the exact same thing
nobody cares if u care.
[quote=boppet][quote=jermang][quote=boppet]just unban the guy if he causes more trouble then ban him again simple
christ[/quote]
wow, it's almost like everyone else on this thread hasn't said the exact same thing[/quote]
wow, it's almost like I don't care[/quote]
nobody cares if u care.
christ[/quote]
wow, it's almost like everyone else on this thread hasn't said the exact same thing[/quote]
wow, it's almost like I don't care[/quote]
nobody cares if u care.
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