my name is still colored. do i get a hat?
Introducing TFTV+
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if tftv+ got custom name colours like a lil box you could put a hex code in id prob donate just for that
if tftv+ got custom name colours like a lil box you could put a hex code in id prob donate just for that
Bubbaad options- if its such a big deal, use ad block
But then you wouldn't be supporting the site. This is a way to remove ads that benefits the community.
[quote=Bubba]ad options- if its such a big deal, use ad block[/quote]
But then you wouldn't be supporting the site. This is a way to remove ads that benefits the community.
But then you wouldn't be supporting the site. This is a way to remove ads that benefits the community.
Technobladelets be honest, the only reason people tried to get good was for those blue names
uh, what about internet gamer girlfriends
[quote=Technoblade]lets be honest, the only reason people tried to get good was for those blue names[/quote]
uh, what about internet gamer girlfriends
uh, what about internet gamer girlfriends
KhakiTechnobladelets be honest, the only reason people tried to get good was for those blue namesuh, what about internet gamer girlfriends
that's just because of the blue name
[quote=Khaki][quote=Technoblade]lets be honest, the only reason people tried to get good was for those blue names[/quote]
uh, what about internet gamer girlfriends[/quote]
that's just because of the blue name
uh, what about internet gamer girlfriends[/quote]
that's just because of the blue name
TwitchTVJohnCriticizing the cost of something that is completely optional and doesn't hinder the functionality of the site is a joke. I have and will continue to support TF2 as much as possible. If $5 a month helps that cause, good.
Telling someone that their opinion is a joke is not a good way of convincing them to come around to your viewpoint. Enough people have expressed reasonable misgivings in this thread that perhaps there is some value in meeting their requests.
And you might ask, why should you care that their "joke" opinion is changed? Well, because the end goal is "to support TF2 as much as possible", so the more people on board with this the better.
I am not going for it at the current price. I do not believe that the ~8,000 users enigma referenced each amount to $5 in advertising and server load per month, nor even $2.50 if you consider site running costs as a separate overhead.
[quote=TwitchTVJohn]Criticizing the cost of something that is completely optional and doesn't hinder the functionality of the site is a joke. I have and will continue to support TF2 as much as possible. If $5 a month helps that cause, good.[/quote]
Telling someone that their opinion is a joke is not a good way of convincing them to come around to your viewpoint. Enough people have expressed reasonable misgivings in this thread that perhaps there is some value in meeting their requests.
And you might ask, why should you care that their "joke" opinion is changed? Well, because the end goal is "to support TF2 as much as possible", so the more people on board with this the better.
I am not going for it at the current price. I do not believe that the ~8,000 users enigma referenced each amount to $5 in advertising and server load per month, nor even $2.50 if you consider site running costs as a separate overhead.
Telling someone that their opinion is a joke is not a good way of convincing them to come around to your viewpoint. Enough people have expressed reasonable misgivings in this thread that perhaps there is some value in meeting their requests.
And you might ask, why should you care that their "joke" opinion is changed? Well, because the end goal is "to support TF2 as much as possible", so the more people on board with this the better.
I am not going for it at the current price. I do not believe that the ~8,000 users enigma referenced each amount to $5 in advertising and server load per month, nor even $2.50 if you consider site running costs as a separate overhead.
atmoI am not going for it at the current price. I do not believe that the ~8,000 users enigma referenced each amount to $5 in advertising and server load per month, nor even $2.50 if you consider site running costs as a separate overhead.
Same deal goes with turbo on twitch. You can't think that twitch/TFTV have set out to get every member to subscribe. That's not how optional subscriptions are modeled, and for good reason.
[quote=atmo]
I am not going for it at the current price. I do not believe that the ~8,000 users enigma referenced each amount to $5 in advertising and server load per month, nor even $2.50 if you consider site running costs as a separate overhead.[/quote]
Same deal goes with turbo on twitch. You can't think that twitch/TFTV have set out to get every member to subscribe. That's not how optional subscriptions are modeled, and for good reason.
I am not going for it at the current price. I do not believe that the ~8,000 users enigma referenced each amount to $5 in advertising and server load per month, nor even $2.50 if you consider site running costs as a separate overhead.[/quote]
Same deal goes with turbo on twitch. You can't think that twitch/TFTV have set out to get every member to subscribe. That's not how optional subscriptions are modeled, and for good reason.
atmo
I don't get why you expect the price to be the same as the ad revenue he gets from a single person, but it'd be cents. Also, the server overhead is obviously very low per person, but you're paying to support enigma's time spent coding/maintaining the site. That's the main cost, which obviously doesn't have a set price on it.
It's to support the site/enigma. It's impossible to make it "worth" it because you're mainly paying for a subjective thing (supporting the site). There could be more features, and I agree with that, but expecting the $5 to be objectively worth it is pretty stupid.
[quote=atmo][/quote]
I don't get why you expect the price to be the same as the ad revenue he gets from a single person, but it'd be cents. Also, the server overhead is obviously very low per person, but you're paying to support enigma's time spent coding/maintaining the site. That's the main cost, which obviously doesn't have a set price on it.
It's to support the site/enigma. It's impossible to make it "worth" it because you're mainly paying for a subjective thing (supporting the site). There could be more features, and I agree with that, but expecting the $5 to be objectively worth it is pretty stupid.
I don't get why you expect the price to be the same as the ad revenue he gets from a single person, but it'd be cents. Also, the server overhead is obviously very low per person, but you're paying to support enigma's time spent coding/maintaining the site. That's the main cost, which obviously doesn't have a set price on it.
It's to support the site/enigma. It's impossible to make it "worth" it because you're mainly paying for a subjective thing (supporting the site). There could be more features, and I agree with that, but expecting the $5 to be objectively worth it is pretty stupid.
atmoTelling someone that their opinion is a joke is not a good way of convincing them to come around to your viewpoint. Enough people have expressed reasonable misgivings in this thread that perhaps there is some value in meeting their requests.
Thanks atmo, but it's pretty obvious negative feedback is not welcome, everyone that has given negative feedback in this thread has been -fragged or laughed about.
No wonder why all you hear is positive feedback like it said in the plus page, when people stating their reasons backed up by some strong/reasonable arguments get immediately dismissed as a joke it will obviously stop people from posting their true opinion here, and I have actually had a couple of people tell me on steam that they agree with me and they don't like it as well, but it's simply not worth it all the hassle of getting hunted down by this circlejerk.
[quote=atmo]
Telling someone that their opinion is a joke is not a good way of convincing them to come around to your viewpoint. Enough people have expressed reasonable misgivings in this thread that perhaps there is some value in meeting their requests.
[/quote]
Thanks atmo, but it's pretty obvious negative feedback is not welcome, everyone that has given negative feedback in this thread has been -fragged or laughed about.
No wonder why all you hear is positive feedback like it said in the plus page, when people stating their reasons backed up by some strong/reasonable arguments get immediately dismissed as a joke it will obviously stop people from posting their true opinion here, and I have actually had a couple of people tell me on steam that they agree with me and they don't like it as well, but it's simply not worth it all the hassle of getting hunted down by this circlejerk.
Telling someone that their opinion is a joke is not a good way of convincing them to come around to your viewpoint. Enough people have expressed reasonable misgivings in this thread that perhaps there is some value in meeting their requests.
[/quote]
Thanks atmo, but it's pretty obvious negative feedback is not welcome, everyone that has given negative feedback in this thread has been -fragged or laughed about.
No wonder why all you hear is positive feedback like it said in the plus page, when people stating their reasons backed up by some strong/reasonable arguments get immediately dismissed as a joke it will obviously stop people from posting their true opinion here, and I have actually had a couple of people tell me on steam that they agree with me and they don't like it as well, but it's simply not worth it all the hassle of getting hunted down by this circlejerk.
KanecoatmoTelling someone that their opinion is a joke is not a good way of convincing them to come around to your viewpoint. Enough people have expressed reasonable misgivings in this thread that perhaps there is some value in meeting their requests.
Thanks atmo, but it's pretty obvious negative feedback is not welcome, everyone that has given negative feedback in this thread has been -fragged or laughed about.
No wonder why all you hear is positive feedback like it said in the OP, when people stating their reasons backed up by some strong/reasonable arguments get immediately dismissed as a joke it will obviously stop people from posting their true opinion here, and I have actually had a couple of people tell me on steam that they agree with me and they don't like it as well, but it's simply not worth it all the hassle of getting hunted down by the circlejerk.
getting -fragged isnt the same as not welcoming feedback ^^
you might not get much when you pay that 5$ but there is a simple option: dont pay. i mean, you can whine about apple selling bad products, but you cant stop people buying them. if i want to support tf.tv, this seems like a good option. and i can feel like im in invite/prem
[quote=Kaneco][quote=atmo]
Telling someone that their opinion is a joke is not a good way of convincing them to come around to your viewpoint. Enough people have expressed reasonable misgivings in this thread that perhaps there is some value in meeting their requests.
[/quote]
Thanks atmo, but it's pretty obvious negative feedback is not welcome, everyone that has given negative feedback in this thread has been -fragged or laughed about.
No wonder why all you hear is positive feedback like it said in the OP, when people stating their reasons backed up by some strong/reasonable arguments get immediately dismissed as a joke it will obviously stop people from posting their true opinion here, and I have actually had a couple of people tell me on steam that they agree with me and they don't like it as well, but it's simply not worth it all the hassle of getting hunted down by the circlejerk.[/quote]
getting -fragged isnt the same as not welcoming feedback ^^
you might not get much when you pay that 5$ but there is a simple option: dont pay. i mean, you can whine about apple selling bad products, but you cant stop people buying them. if i want to support tf.tv, this seems like a good option. and i can feel like im in invite/prem
Telling someone that their opinion is a joke is not a good way of convincing them to come around to your viewpoint. Enough people have expressed reasonable misgivings in this thread that perhaps there is some value in meeting their requests.
[/quote]
Thanks atmo, but it's pretty obvious negative feedback is not welcome, everyone that has given negative feedback in this thread has been -fragged or laughed about.
No wonder why all you hear is positive feedback like it said in the OP, when people stating their reasons backed up by some strong/reasonable arguments get immediately dismissed as a joke it will obviously stop people from posting their true opinion here, and I have actually had a couple of people tell me on steam that they agree with me and they don't like it as well, but it's simply not worth it all the hassle of getting hunted down by the circlejerk.[/quote]
getting -fragged isnt the same as not welcoming feedback ^^
you might not get much when you pay that 5$ but there is a simple option: dont pay. i mean, you can whine about apple selling bad products, but you cant stop people buying them. if i want to support tf.tv, this seems like a good option. and i can feel like im in invite/prem
What did the blue names do in the first place? :/ I thought I had one unless I was dreaming.
What did the blue names do in the first place? :/ I thought I had one unless I was dreaming.
brownymasterI don't get how adding something can improve performance, and I doubt that adding an extra query will be non-existent. A small performance hit could be .05 seconds, could be .2 seconds who knows (I haven't myself made a benchmark for this scale a website, but obviously it's going to add a few fractions of a second at the very least). There would still be a performance hit. Also, I'm pretty sure this is run on a VPS. Depending on the capabilities and limits of enigma's provider (I think it's linode, and he's using cloudflare to help distribute), it could be worse than it should be.
It takes longer than 0.2 seconds to scroll through posts and find the last one you read. I think you're putting a bit too much importance on page load times considering users don't just want to open the page, they want to get to the new posts as well.
If you factor in the time saved by not having to scan posts or load multiple pages to find where you left off, the performance hit would have to be pretty ridiculous for it to not be worth it.
[quote=brownymaster]
I don't get how adding something can improve performance, and I doubt that adding an extra query will be non-existent. A small performance hit could be .05 seconds, could be .2 seconds who knows (I haven't myself made a benchmark for this scale a website, but obviously it's going to add a few fractions of a second at the very least). There would still be a performance hit. Also, I'm pretty sure this is run on a VPS. Depending on the capabilities and limits of enigma's provider (I think it's linode, and he's using cloudflare to help distribute), it could be worse than it should be.[/quote]
It takes longer than 0.2 seconds to scroll through posts and find the last one you read. I think you're putting a bit too much importance on page load times considering users don't just want to open the page, they want to get to the new posts as well.
If you factor in the time saved by not having to scan posts or load multiple pages to find where you left off, the performance hit would have to be pretty ridiculous for it to not be worth it.
I don't get how adding something can improve performance, and I doubt that adding an extra query will be non-existent. A small performance hit could be .05 seconds, could be .2 seconds who knows (I haven't myself made a benchmark for this scale a website, but obviously it's going to add a few fractions of a second at the very least). There would still be a performance hit. Also, I'm pretty sure this is run on a VPS. Depending on the capabilities and limits of enigma's provider (I think it's linode, and he's using cloudflare to help distribute), it could be worse than it should be.[/quote]
It takes longer than 0.2 seconds to scroll through posts and find the last one you read. I think you're putting a bit too much importance on page load times considering users don't just want to open the page, they want to get to the new posts as well.
If you factor in the time saved by not having to scan posts or load multiple pages to find where you left off, the performance hit would have to be pretty ridiculous for it to not be worth it.
people dont like my ideas better blame shitposters and circlejerks
people dont like my ideas better blame shitposters and circlejerks
trogbrownymasterI don't get how adding something can improve performance, and I doubt that adding an extra query will be non-existent. A small performance hit could be .05 seconds, could be .2 seconds who knows (I haven't myself made a benchmark for this scale a website, but obviously it's going to add a few fractions of a second at the very least). There would still be a performance hit. Also, I'm pretty sure this is run on a VPS. Depending on the capabilities and limits of enigma's provider (I think it's linode, and he's using cloudflare to help distribute), it could be worse than it should be.It takes longer than 0.2 seconds to scroll through posts and find the last one you read. I think you're putting a bit too much importance on page load times considering users don't just want to open the page, they want to get to the new posts as well.
If you factor in the time saved by not having to scan posts or load multiple pages to find where you left off, the performance hit would have to be pretty ridiculous for it to not be worth it.
Heh, yeah. We're all conditioned by FPS gaming to consider latency the devil, (can't get those twitch post-edits and flick +frags with these page render times...), but there are so many factors at play here that it seems a bit excessive to focus so much on this one quantity.
[quote=trog][quote=brownymaster]
I don't get how adding something can improve performance, and I doubt that adding an extra query will be non-existent. A small performance hit could be .05 seconds, could be .2 seconds who knows (I haven't myself made a benchmark for this scale a website, but obviously it's going to add a few fractions of a second at the very least). There would still be a performance hit. Also, I'm pretty sure this is run on a VPS. Depending on the capabilities and limits of enigma's provider (I think it's linode, and he's using cloudflare to help distribute), it could be worse than it should be.[/quote]
It takes longer than 0.2 seconds to scroll through posts and find the last one you read. I think you're putting a bit too much importance on page load times considering users don't just want to open the page, they want to get to the new posts as well.
If you factor in the time saved by not having to scan posts or load multiple pages to find where you left off, the performance hit would have to be pretty ridiculous for it to not be worth it.[/quote]
Heh, yeah. We're all conditioned by FPS gaming to consider latency the devil, (can't get those twitch post-edits and flick +frags with these page render times...), but there are so many factors at play here that it seems a bit excessive to focus so much on this one quantity.
I don't get how adding something can improve performance, and I doubt that adding an extra query will be non-existent. A small performance hit could be .05 seconds, could be .2 seconds who knows (I haven't myself made a benchmark for this scale a website, but obviously it's going to add a few fractions of a second at the very least). There would still be a performance hit. Also, I'm pretty sure this is run on a VPS. Depending on the capabilities and limits of enigma's provider (I think it's linode, and he's using cloudflare to help distribute), it could be worse than it should be.[/quote]
It takes longer than 0.2 seconds to scroll through posts and find the last one you read. I think you're putting a bit too much importance on page load times considering users don't just want to open the page, they want to get to the new posts as well.
If you factor in the time saved by not having to scan posts or load multiple pages to find where you left off, the performance hit would have to be pretty ridiculous for it to not be worth it.[/quote]
Heh, yeah. We're all conditioned by FPS gaming to consider latency the devil, (can't get those twitch post-edits and flick +frags with these page render times...), but there are so many factors at play here that it seems a bit excessive to focus so much on this one quantity.
How am I supposed to know who's posts to pay attention to if just anyone gets a blue name now
How am I supposed to know who's posts to pay attention to if just anyone gets a blue name now
Kanecohttp://i.imgur.com/b4xOfjQ.png
A very big reason as to why tf.tv is the only forum I regularly browse is because it's so clean, and visually appealing. IF there were medals and an invite badge upon the forum post, it would be alot less visually appealing imo. The colored names and forum post stars is the farthest it should go.
Backpacking on what some other people said, another color would be a neat idea, perhaps a pink or yellow, or maybe a banner similar to the i49 one? (Would be a bit cluttered but better than the badges and medals)
[quote=Kaneco][img]http://i.imgur.com/b4xOfjQ.png[/img]
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A very big reason as to why tf.tv is the only forum I regularly browse is because it's so clean, and visually appealing. IF there were medals and an invite badge upon the forum post, it would be alot less visually appealing imo. The colored names and forum post stars is the farthest it should go.
Backpacking on what some other people said, another color would be a neat idea, perhaps a pink or yellow, or maybe a banner similar to the i49 one? (Would be a bit cluttered but better than the badges and medals)
[/quote]
A very big reason as to why tf.tv is the only forum I regularly browse is because it's so clean, and visually appealing. IF there were medals and an invite badge upon the forum post, it would be alot less visually appealing imo. The colored names and forum post stars is the farthest it should go.
Backpacking on what some other people said, another color would be a neat idea, perhaps a pink or yellow, or maybe a banner similar to the i49 one? (Would be a bit cluttered but better than the badges and medals)
The i49 banners were way worse than the medals in that picture...
The i49 banners were way worse than the medals in that picture...
Noona
I agree heavily with these words. Also, the i49 banners blocked out names, which is my only complaint, but I guess I'm easy to be content with as far as design/layout.
[quote=Noona][/quote]
I agree heavily with these words. Also, the i49 banners blocked out names, which is my only complaint, but I guess I'm easy to be content with as far as design/layout.
I agree heavily with these words. Also, the i49 banners blocked out names, which is my only complaint, but I guess I'm easy to be content with as far as design/layout.
Keep it simple and clean. Don't overdo it. Even though it's nice to give recognition, it's not worth sacrificing the cleanliness of the boards. The i49 banner was probably a one-time thing.
Keep it simple and clean. Don't overdo it. Even though it's nice to give recognition, it's not worth sacrificing the cleanliness of the boards. The i49 banner was probably a one-time thing.
To be honest, the stars serve no real purpose and, in my opinion, should be removed.
To be honest, the stars serve no real purpose and, in my opinion, should be removed.
NoonaKanecohttp://i.imgur.com/b4xOfjQ.png
A very big reason as to why tf.tv is the only forum I regularly browse is because it's so clean, and visually appealing. IF there were medals and an invite badge upon the forum post, it would be alot less visually appealing imo. The colored names and forum post stars is the farthest it should go.
Backpacking on what some other people said, another color would be a neat idea, perhaps a pink or yellow, or maybe a banner similar to the i49 one? (Would be a bit cluttered but better than the badges and medals)
To be honest the stars are a bit pointless like hooky said. According to the "Forum Rules and Guidelines"
How does the Star system work?
The stars a simple measurement of how active a particular user is on the forums. Stars are gained as you make more posts and complete your forum user profile.
No one really knows what a star is though so they are kinda pointless. IMO, remove the stars and replace the now gone blue names with icons. For example rather then the ESEA "esea star" INVITE that Kaneco showed, just have the star. When moused over have it say ESEA Invite. Maybe even the team.
You of course could have more then just ESEA. Also the UGC wings, the ETF2L logo( do they have one?) etc.... You wouldn't be sacrificing much in the way of clean as the most a player could likely have would be a Euro (when there is a ESEA-I in Europe) playing in ESEA-I, UGC Plat and ETF2L Prem. That would be 3 icons instead of 4 stars.
[quote=Noona][quote=Kaneco][img]http://i.imgur.com/b4xOfjQ.png[/img]
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A very big reason as to why tf.tv is the only forum I regularly browse is because it's so clean, and visually appealing. IF there were medals and an invite badge upon the forum post, it would be alot less visually appealing imo. The colored names and forum post stars is the farthest it should go.
Backpacking on what some other people said, another color would be a neat idea, perhaps a pink or yellow, or maybe a banner similar to the i49 one? (Would be a bit cluttered but better than the badges and medals)[/quote]
To be honest the stars are a bit pointless like hooky said. According to the "Forum Rules and Guidelines"
[quote] How does the Star system work?
The stars a simple measurement of how active a particular user is on the forums. Stars are gained as you make more posts and complete your forum user profile.
[/quote]
No one really knows what a star is though so they are kinda pointless. IMO, remove the stars and replace the now gone blue names with icons. For example rather then the ESEA "esea star" INVITE that Kaneco showed, just have the star. When moused over have it say ESEA Invite. Maybe even the team.
You of course could have more then just ESEA. Also the UGC wings, the ETF2L logo( do they have one?) etc.... You wouldn't be sacrificing much in the way of clean as the most a player could likely have would be a Euro (when there is a ESEA-I in Europe) playing in ESEA-I, UGC Plat and ETF2L Prem. That would be 3 icons instead of 4 stars.
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A very big reason as to why tf.tv is the only forum I regularly browse is because it's so clean, and visually appealing. IF there were medals and an invite badge upon the forum post, it would be alot less visually appealing imo. The colored names and forum post stars is the farthest it should go.
Backpacking on what some other people said, another color would be a neat idea, perhaps a pink or yellow, or maybe a banner similar to the i49 one? (Would be a bit cluttered but better than the badges and medals)[/quote]
To be honest the stars are a bit pointless like hooky said. According to the "Forum Rules and Guidelines"
[quote] How does the Star system work?
The stars a simple measurement of how active a particular user is on the forums. Stars are gained as you make more posts and complete your forum user profile.
[/quote]
No one really knows what a star is though so they are kinda pointless. IMO, remove the stars and replace the now gone blue names with icons. For example rather then the ESEA "esea star" INVITE that Kaneco showed, just have the star. When moused over have it say ESEA Invite. Maybe even the team.
You of course could have more then just ESEA. Also the UGC wings, the ETF2L logo( do they have one?) etc.... You wouldn't be sacrificing much in the way of clean as the most a player could likely have would be a Euro (when there is a ESEA-I in Europe) playing in ESEA-I, UGC Plat and ETF2L Prem. That would be 3 icons instead of 4 stars.
atmoTwitchTVJohnCriticizing the cost of something that is completely optional and doesn't hinder the functionality of the site is a joke. I have and will continue to support TF2 as much as possible. If $5 a month helps that cause, good.Telling someone that their opinion is a joke is not a good way of convincing them to come around to your viewpoint. Enough people have expressed reasonable misgivings in this thread that perhaps there is some value in meeting their requests.
And you might ask, why should you care that their "joke" opinion is changed? Well, because the end goal is "to support TF2 as much as possible", so the more people on board with this the better.
I am not going for it at the current price. I do not believe that the ~8,000 users enigma referenced each amount to $5 in advertising and server load per month, nor even $2.50 if you consider site running costs as a separate overhead.
Premium features are not designed for everybody. That's not how website/game monetization models work. Is a League of Legends skin worth $20? No, it offers no functionality. 2-3% of the player base will buy it, though. If you can convert 2-3% of your users into paying users, you're doing something right.
[quote=atmo][quote=TwitchTVJohn]Criticizing the cost of something that is completely optional and doesn't hinder the functionality of the site is a joke. I have and will continue to support TF2 as much as possible. If $5 a month helps that cause, good.[/quote]
Telling someone that their opinion is a joke is not a good way of convincing them to come around to your viewpoint. Enough people have expressed reasonable misgivings in this thread that perhaps there is some value in meeting their requests.
And you might ask, why should you care that their "joke" opinion is changed? Well, because the end goal is "to support TF2 as much as possible", so the more people on board with this the better.
I am not going for it at the current price. I do not believe that the ~8,000 users enigma referenced each amount to $5 in advertising and server load per month, nor even $2.50 if you consider site running costs as a separate overhead.[/quote]
Premium features are not designed for everybody. That's not how website/game monetization models work. Is a League of Legends skin worth $20? No, it offers no functionality. 2-3% of the player base will buy it, though. If you can convert 2-3% of your users into paying users, you're doing something right.
Telling someone that their opinion is a joke is not a good way of convincing them to come around to your viewpoint. Enough people have expressed reasonable misgivings in this thread that perhaps there is some value in meeting their requests.
And you might ask, why should you care that their "joke" opinion is changed? Well, because the end goal is "to support TF2 as much as possible", so the more people on board with this the better.
I am not going for it at the current price. I do not believe that the ~8,000 users enigma referenced each amount to $5 in advertising and server load per month, nor even $2.50 if you consider site running costs as a separate overhead.[/quote]
Premium features are not designed for everybody. That's not how website/game monetization models work. Is a League of Legends skin worth $20? No, it offers no functionality. 2-3% of the player base will buy it, though. If you can convert 2-3% of your users into paying users, you're doing something right.
NoonaKanecohttp://i.imgur.com/b4xOfjQ.png
A very big reason as to why tf.tv is the only forum I regularly browse is because it's so clean, and visually appealing. IF there were medals and an invite badge upon the forum post, it would be alot less visually appealing imo. The colored names and forum post stars is the farthest it should go.
Backpacking on what some other people said, another color would be a neat idea, perhaps a pink or yellow, or maybe a banner similar to the i49 one? (Would be a bit cluttered but better than the badges and medals)
Yes, but honestly do you really prefer the stars to a badge displaying your divison in tf2? It's kind of a small topic to discuss about but I do think if there's anything that clutters the page is the post start which are absolutely useless. Not a badge relevant to the forum.
Also the i49 banner was much more annoying and deviated the forum style much more than a simpler badge, actually Idk if you remember or not but what was promised on the donation page was a little badge to support the team you wanted to win not a forum banner, so the idea of a badge has been around before and IMO it's much more appealing than these post stars.
Maybe have a little badge for Invite/platinum/prem etc on the forum post banner and keep all the other stuff in the player profile?
[quote=Noona][quote=Kaneco][img]http://i.imgur.com/b4xOfjQ.png[/img]
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A very big reason as to why tf.tv is the only forum I regularly browse is because it's so clean, and visually appealing. IF there were medals and an invite badge upon the forum post, it would be alot less visually appealing imo. The colored names and forum post stars is the farthest it should go.
Backpacking on what some other people said, another color would be a neat idea, perhaps a pink or yellow, or maybe a banner similar to the i49 one? (Would be a bit cluttered but better than the badges and medals)[/quote]
Yes, but honestly do you really prefer the stars to a badge displaying your divison in tf2? It's kind of a small topic to discuss about but I do think if there's anything that clutters the page is the post start which are absolutely useless. Not a badge relevant to the forum.
Also the i49 banner was much more annoying and deviated the forum style much more than a simpler badge, actually Idk if you remember or not but what was promised on the donation page was a little badge to support the team you wanted to win not a forum banner, so the idea of a badge has been around before and IMO it's much more appealing than these post stars.
Maybe have a little badge for Invite/platinum/prem etc on the forum post banner and keep all the other stuff in the player profile?
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A very big reason as to why tf.tv is the only forum I regularly browse is because it's so clean, and visually appealing. IF there were medals and an invite badge upon the forum post, it would be alot less visually appealing imo. The colored names and forum post stars is the farthest it should go.
Backpacking on what some other people said, another color would be a neat idea, perhaps a pink or yellow, or maybe a banner similar to the i49 one? (Would be a bit cluttered but better than the badges and medals)[/quote]
Yes, but honestly do you really prefer the stars to a badge displaying your divison in tf2? It's kind of a small topic to discuss about but I do think if there's anything that clutters the page is the post start which are absolutely useless. Not a badge relevant to the forum.
Also the i49 banner was much more annoying and deviated the forum style much more than a simpler badge, actually Idk if you remember or not but what was promised on the donation page was a little badge to support the team you wanted to win not a forum banner, so the idea of a badge has been around before and IMO it's much more appealing than these post stars.
Maybe have a little badge for Invite/platinum/prem etc on the forum post banner and keep all the other stuff in the player profile?
RussianGuyovichThe Twitch channel subscription is enough.
TFTV+ gets you a lot more than a Twitch subscription, and TFTV ends up with almost twice the money in their pocket at the end of the month. You've still paid the same amount of money, so what's the problem?
[quote=RussianGuyovich]The Twitch channel subscription is enough.[/quote]
TFTV+ gets you a lot more than a Twitch subscription, and TFTV ends up with almost twice the money in their pocket at the end of the month. You've still paid the same amount of money, so what's the problem?
TFTV+ gets you a lot more than a Twitch subscription, and TFTV ends up with almost twice the money in their pocket at the end of the month. You've still paid the same amount of money, so what's the problem?
It's seriously only $5. I don't see what the problem is :V
It's seriously only $5. I don't see what the problem is :V
skyrideRussianGuyovichThe Twitch channel subscription is enough.
TFTV+ gets you a lot more than a Twitch subscription, and TFTV ends up with almost twice the money in their pocket at the end of the month. You've still paid the same amount of money, so what's the problem?
No
[quote=skyride][quote=RussianGuyovich]The Twitch channel subscription is enough.[/quote]
TFTV+ gets you a lot more than a Twitch subscription, and TFTV ends up with almost twice the money in their pocket at the end of the month. You've still paid the same amount of money, so what's the problem?[/quote]
No
TFTV+ gets you a lot more than a Twitch subscription, and TFTV ends up with almost twice the money in their pocket at the end of the month. You've still paid the same amount of money, so what's the problem?[/quote]
No
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