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#31
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Cookie's n' Cream or Cookie Dough

Cookie's n' Cream or Cookie Dough
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eggtart
Something they also nail into our heads since the day we were born is that we all have rights. If you take a look back at the incarceration of Japanese-Americans of 1942 then you'll understand that we have no rights. They are all privileges. Japanese-Americans were put into the American version of concentration camps--simply because their parents were of Japanese descent, they were born in the wrong country. These are American citizens being put into concentration camps. They had all of their "precious" rights stripped away from them. Rights are not rights if you can simply take them away. They are privileges. We have the Bill of Privileges, not the Bill of Rights.

We do have "Rights", however, not ALL of them are "inalienable".

Let's mess around with "Freedom of Speech", shall we?

So I'm bored and I'm in the library. Now, I wanna make it a little fun, just a LITTLE.
I'll go to some corner or wherever and scream "THERE'S A BOMB HOLY GOD A BOMB HELP OH MY GOD!"

We all know you WILL get in trouble. But you'll argue, "I have the freedom of speech!"
Well to an extent, in that scenario, you'd probably end up in a lot of trouble despite how you supposedly have the "rights" of speech.

Point is, I can't be shot for saying, "Hey this President is ****", but if I obviously try doing something stupid, of course I'll get in trouble. So in some cases, yes your rights CAN be removed.

Anyways, I digressed. Let's talk about the WW2 Japanese-American internment camps. So with the "equal protection guarantee clause" (I forget exactly what it's called), Japanese-Americans can't have a law classifying them, right? (Level 1:Strict Scrutiny I think? Where the Court judges if a law violates the equal protection stuff by using race, national origin, religion, etc)

Well, no but...if the government can persuade the Court with how there's a "compelling state interest" or whatever, then they can. And they did.

IN SHORT, I agree and disagree about your point with "Rights". They all aren't 100% set in stone, but you still have them.

[quote=eggtart]

Something they also nail into our heads since the day we were born is that we all have rights. If you take a look back at the incarceration of Japanese-Americans of 1942 then you'll understand that we have no rights. They are all privileges. Japanese-Americans were put into the American version of concentration camps--simply because their parents were of Japanese descent, they were born in the wrong country. These are American citizens being put into concentration camps. They had all of their "precious" rights stripped away from them. Rights are not rights if you can simply take them away. They are privileges. We have the Bill of Privileges, not the Bill of Rights.

[/quote]

We do have "Rights", however, not ALL of them are "inalienable".

Let's mess around with "Freedom of Speech", shall we?

So I'm bored and I'm in the library. Now, I wanna make it a little fun, just a LITTLE.
I'll go to some corner or wherever and scream "THERE'S A BOMB HOLY GOD A BOMB HELP OH MY GOD!"

We all know you WILL get in trouble. But you'll argue, "I have the freedom of speech!"
Well to an extent, in that scenario, you'd probably end up in a lot of trouble despite how you supposedly have the "rights" of speech.

Point is, I can't be shot for saying, "Hey this President is ****", but if I obviously try doing something stupid, of course I'll get in trouble. So in some cases, yes your rights CAN be removed.


Anyways, I digressed. Let's talk about the WW2 Japanese-American internment camps. So with the "equal protection guarantee clause" (I forget exactly what it's called), Japanese-Americans can't have a law classifying them, right? (Level 1:Strict Scrutiny I think? Where the Court judges if a law violates the equal protection stuff by using race, national origin, religion, etc)

Well, no but...if the government can persuade the Court with how there's a "compelling state interest" or whatever, then they can. And they did.


IN SHORT, I agree and disagree about your point with "Rights". They all aren't 100% set in stone, but you still have them.
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With the off-topic of ice cream flavors: I love coffee,chocolate chip mint and plain good ol' vanilla.

With the off-topic of ice cream flavors: I love coffee,chocolate chip mint and plain good ol' vanilla.
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#34
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Chocolate and hazelnut(or peanut butter) is top tier.

Chocolate and hazelnut(or peanut butter) is top tier.
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If rights were absolute, would you be able to do anything you wanted and get away with it? Yes, but what if that comes at the expense of someone Else's rights? Wouldn't they have an absolute right to not be affected by you using your rights?

If rights were absolute, would you be able to do anything you wanted and get away with it? Yes, but what if that comes at the expense of someone Else's rights? Wouldn't they have an absolute right to not be affected by you using your rights?
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Ben and Jerry's AmeriCone Dream is my favorite ice cream, but sometimes I just prefer plain haagen dazs vanilla - the most bourgeois of ice cream.

But going along with what the OP and Marxist said, the idea of free will is that 1) you could have acted otherwise if you had chosen to, 2) you chose to act as you did, and 3) nobody compelled you to chose the way you did. Granted you are limited in your choices as there are literally millions of things you cant do, but you wouldnt say that you arent free because you cant do them. for example you cant go out and buy a lamborghini or take walk along the Great Wall of China right now (assuming you dont live in China). likewise, everything you do choose is dependent upon something else existing or happening prior to your choice. I agree that no one is completely free in a society, but that's a good thing, absolute freedom only exists in a state of nature, which is a dangerous state to live in and is the whole reason why we are in a society and abide by certain rules right now. Nietzsche mentions in Beyond Good and Evil that while we are not free, in the sense that we cannot cause ourselves from nothing, we are not "unfree" either, there are just strong and weak wills.

Getting back to your point on the lack of political freedom, if you meet the criterion for free will as stated above, that you could have chosen a different candidate (or none), you could have bought a different brand of ice cream, that you chose to act (or not act), and nobody forced you to vote for someone, then you have choice. Dont get me wrong, our politics are shit and the government is in the hands of big business and the wealthy clearly have more free will than the lower classes, but it seems like you're more upset by people's apathy than anything else.

Ben and Jerry's AmeriCone Dream is my favorite ice cream, but sometimes I just prefer plain haagen dazs vanilla - the most bourgeois of ice cream.

But going along with what the OP and Marxist said, the idea of free will is that 1) you could have acted otherwise if you had chosen to, 2) you chose to act as you did, and 3) nobody compelled you to chose the way you did. Granted you are limited in your choices as there are literally millions of things you cant do, but you wouldnt say that you arent free because you cant do them. for example you cant go out and buy a lamborghini or take walk along the Great Wall of China right now (assuming you dont live in China). likewise, everything you do choose is dependent upon something else existing or happening prior to your choice. I agree that no one is completely free in a society, but that's a good thing, absolute freedom only exists in a state of nature, which is a dangerous state to live in and is the whole reason why we are in a society and abide by certain rules right now. Nietzsche mentions in Beyond Good and Evil that while we are not free, in the sense that we cannot cause ourselves from nothing, we are not "unfree" either, there are just strong and weak wills.

Getting back to your point on the lack of political freedom, if you meet the criterion for free will as stated above, that you could have chosen a different candidate (or none), you could have bought a different brand of ice cream, that you chose to act (or not act), and nobody forced you to vote for someone, then you have choice. Dont get me wrong, our politics are shit and the government is in the hands of big business and the wealthy clearly have more free will than the lower classes, but it seems like you're more upset by people's apathy than anything else.
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My aunt and Uncle own a franchise of Ben and Jerry's. Hooooolllllyyyy shitttt. They bring like 50 little cups of every kind of ice cream you can imagine to family get togethers. It's a wonder i dont weigh 300 pounds.

My aunt and Uncle own a franchise of Ben and Jerry's. Hooooolllllyyyy shitttt. They bring like 50 little cups of every kind of ice cream you can imagine to family get togethers. It's a wonder i dont weigh 300 pounds.
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4812622enlanepeople actually like green tea ice cream that is crazy
don't you fucking talk shit about green tea ice cream

Green tea ice cream is the best :D Its also really good as a shave ice flavor (with azuki, condensed milk, mochi, and vanilla or green tea ice cream on the side holy shit its amazing!)

http://s3-media3.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/4Z6GpyHxmLRShoxUyDZcog/l.jpg

[quote=4812622][quote=enlane]people actually like green tea ice cream that is crazy[/quote]

don't you fucking talk shit about green tea ice cream[/quote]

Green tea ice cream is the best :D Its also really good as a shave ice flavor (with azuki, condensed milk, mochi, and vanilla or green tea ice cream on the side holy shit its amazing!)
[img]http://s3-media3.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/4Z6GpyHxmLRShoxUyDZcog/l.jpg[/img]
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#39
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Mint chocolate chip is the best flavor no doubt.

Mint chocolate chip is the best flavor no doubt.
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#40
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Drumstick Ice Cream.

Drumstick Ice Cream.
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the green tea ice cream mochis they sell at trader joe's are just fantastic

the green tea ice cream mochis they sell at trader joe's are just fantastic
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CleaR http://s3-media3.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/4Z6GpyHxmLRShoxUyDZcog/l.jpg

what the fuck is this

[quote=CleaR] [img]http://s3-media3.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/4Z6GpyHxmLRShoxUyDZcog/l.jpg[/img][/quote]


what the fuck is this
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#43
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kirbyCleaR http://s3-media3.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/4Z6GpyHxmLRShoxUyDZcog/l.jpg
what the fuck is this

looks like artichokes, gummy bears, and cranberries

topped with semen

[quote=kirby][quote=CleaR] [img]http://s3-media3.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/4Z6GpyHxmLRShoxUyDZcog/l.jpg[/img][/quote]


what the fuck is this[/quote]
looks like artichokes, gummy bears, and cranberries

topped with semen
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#44
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artinopes

artinopes
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#45
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kirbyCleaR http://s3-media3.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/4Z6GpyHxmLRShoxUyDZcog/l.jpg
what the fuck is this

Disgusting

[quote=kirby][quote=CleaR] [img]http://s3-media3.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/4Z6GpyHxmLRShoxUyDZcog/l.jpg[/img][/quote]


what the fuck is this[/quote]

[b]Disgusting[/b]
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#46
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This guy is going beyond just farting in the elevator.

This guy is going beyond just farting in the elevator.
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OblivionagekirbyCleaRsnip
what the fuck is this

Disgusting

think it's red bean i could be wrong

[quote=Oblivionage][quote=kirby][quote=CleaR]snip[/quote]


what the fuck is this[/quote]

[b]Disgusting[/b][/quote]

think it's red bean i could be wrong
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#48
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No offense, but this thread feels like a 10th grade thesis that requires 2 pages of double spaced bull shit.

No offense, but this thread feels like a 10th grade thesis that requires 2 pages of double spaced bull shit.
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#49
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Cookies and cream had nothing on pralines and cream. The best ice cream flavour ever.

Candied
Fucking
Pecans

Cookies and cream had nothing on pralines and cream. The best ice cream flavour ever.

Candied
Fucking
Pecans
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SocialistFishBen and Jerry's AmeriCone Dream

AmeriCone Dream is good and all but have you ever had Late Night Snack

Kreygasm

[quote=SocialistFish]Ben and Jerry's AmeriCone Dream[/quote]
AmeriCone Dream is good and all but have you ever had Late Night Snack

Kreygasm
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enlanekirbyCleaR http://s3-media3.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/4Z6GpyHxmLRShoxUyDZcog/l.jpg
what the fuck is this
looks like artichokes, gummy bears, and cranberries

topped with semen

looks more like burrito beans, some green fungus, and painted rocks.

with semen

[quote=enlane][quote=kirby][quote=CleaR] [img]http://s3-media3.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/4Z6GpyHxmLRShoxUyDZcog/l.jpg[/img][/quote]


what the fuck is this[/quote]
looks like artichokes, gummy bears, and cranberries

topped with semen[/quote]

looks more like burrito beans, some green fungus, and painted rocks.

with semen
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#52
RGB LAN
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cookies and cream master race

cookies and cream master race
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ClankenlanekirbyCleaR http://s3-media3.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/4Z6GpyHxmLRShoxUyDZcog/l.jpg
what the fuck is this
looks like artichokes, gummy bears, and cranberries

topped with semen

looks more like burrito beans, some green fungus, and painted rocks.

with semen

Kidney beans, green flat pasta with a light white cream and warheads with a powdered sugar coating.

[quote=Clank][quote=enlane][quote=kirby][quote=CleaR] [img]http://s3-media3.ak.yelpcdn.com/bphoto/4Z6GpyHxmLRShoxUyDZcog/l.jpg[/img][/quote]


what the fuck is this[/quote]
looks like artichokes, gummy bears, and cranberries

topped with semen[/quote]

looks more like burrito beans, some green fungus, and painted rocks.

with semen[/quote]

Kidney beans, green flat pasta with a light white cream and warheads with a powdered sugar coating.
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TheFragilecookies and cream master race
[quote=TheFragile]cookies and [b]cream[/b] master race[/quote]
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#55
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damn you guys hating on green tea ice cream all white as hell

open your minds that shit that clear posted is straight fucking incredible

damn you guys hating on green tea ice cream all white as hell

open your minds that shit that clear posted is straight fucking incredible
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#56
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Cake batter.

Cake batter.
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Saberdamn you guys hating on green tea ice cream all white as hell

open your minds that shit that clear posted is straight fucking incredible

Not when it's making us green, and not of the envious variety.

[quote=Saber]damn you guys hating on green tea ice cream all white as hell

open your minds that shit that clear posted is straight fucking incredible[/quote]

Not when it's making us green, and not of the envious variety.
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#58
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yo i love coffee ice cream am i the minority here

yo i [i]love[/i] coffee ice cream am i the minority here
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#59
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no

no
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#60
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You wrote those words to change people like me
and you succeeded

...

now i really want ice cream ;-;

You wrote those words to change people like me
and you succeeded

...

now i really want ice cream ;-;
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