Mr_OwltriplemintI still think Lonely Hearts will win a match and make it to playoffs. Sure their schedule is hard but they're a great team with really smart players. Pretty sure you're underestimating them, Owl.
I don't doubt that they could win a match at all. However, I'd give them a less than 50% shot in each of their remaining matches (against mesr's team, budsquad, and medical geniuses). I think that most of us can agree that Budsquad is the better team so I won't go into that matchup much. The other two matchups, however, are just bad for Lonely Hearts in particular. Mesr's team is filled with players with a ton of experience who won't fall for a lot of the +fwd stuff that sherman and romeo do on the flank. Lonely Hearts relies too much on their DM and doesn't have a great connection between the combo and flank (I haven't seen every match that LH has played this season, but this seems to be the case especially in their most recent matches). Medical Geniuses, on the other hand, has one of the two scout combos in open who I think can actually outplay sherman and romeo on even ground in Hugh and Stoch. Add to that Xan on demo on a strong demo map like snakewater, and I think MD takes that one in the 5-3 range.
Lonely Hearts making playoffs I believe comes down to the match against Masturb8 to Anime on viaduct, and while I think it'll be a great match, I have mesr's team taking it.
All that said, I certainly wouldn't be surprised if they win any of the three matches. All 6 of the players on that team are very very good at TF2.
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[quote=Mr_Owl][quote=triplemint]I still think Lonely Hearts will win a match and make it to playoffs. Sure their schedule is hard but they're a great team with really smart players. Pretty sure you're underestimating them, Owl.[/quote]
I don't doubt that they could win a match at all. However, I'd give them a less than 50% shot in each of their remaining matches (against mesr's team, budsquad, and medical geniuses). I think that most of us can agree that [b]Budsquad is the better team so I won't go into that matchup much.[/b] The other two matchups, however, are just bad for Lonely Hearts in particular. Mesr's team is filled with players with a ton of experience who won't fall for a lot of the +fwd stuff that sherman and romeo do on the flank. Lonely Hearts relies too much on their DM and doesn't have a great connection between the combo and flank (I haven't seen every match that LH has played this season, but this seems to be the case especially in their most recent matches). Medical Geniuses, on the other hand, has one of the two scout combos in open who I think can actually outplay sherman and romeo on even ground in Hugh and Stoch. Add to that Xan on demo on a strong demo map like snakewater, and I think MD takes that one in the 5-3 range.
Lonely Hearts making playoffs I believe comes down to the match against Masturb8 to Anime on viaduct, and while I think it'll be a great match, I have mesr's team taking it.
All that said, I certainly wouldn't be surprised if they win any of the three matches. All 6 of the players on that team are very very good at TF2.[/quote]
I don't doubt that they could win a match at all. However, I'd give them a less than 50% shot in each of their remaining matches (against mesr's team, budsquad, and medical geniuses). I think that most of us can agree that [b]Budsquad is the better team so I won't go into that matchup much.[/b] The other two matchups, however, are just bad for Lonely Hearts in particular. Mesr's team is filled with players with a ton of experience who won't fall for a lot of the +fwd stuff that sherman and romeo do on the flank. Lonely Hearts relies too much on their DM and doesn't have a great connection between the combo and flank (I haven't seen every match that LH has played this season, but this seems to be the case especially in their most recent matches). Medical Geniuses, on the other hand, has one of the two scout combos in open who I think can actually outplay sherman and romeo on even ground in Hugh and Stoch. Add to that Xan on demo on a strong demo map like snakewater, and I think MD takes that one in the 5-3 range.
Lonely Hearts making playoffs I believe comes down to the match against Masturb8 to Anime on viaduct, and while I think it'll be a great match, I have mesr's team taking it.
All that said, I certainly wouldn't be surprised if they win any of the three matches. All 6 of the players on that team are very very good at TF2.[/quote]
clearly you don't understand how owl's preds work. he is not correct ever, so his actual preds are the opposite of what he says.
clearly you don't understand how owl's preds work. he is not correct ever, so his actual preds are the opposite of what he says.
Mr_OwlLonely Hearts to win open
hope this helps
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[quote=Mr_Owl]Lonely Hearts to win open
hope this helps[/quote]
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hope this helps[/quote]
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Mr_OwlLonely Hearts to win open
hope this helps
the jynx strat
[quote=Mr_Owl]Lonely Hearts to win open
hope this helps[/quote]
the jynx strat
hope this helps[/quote]
the jynx strat
spaceghostpurrpMr_OwlLonely Hearts to win openthe jynx strat
hope this helps
[quote=spaceghostpurrp][quote=Mr_Owl]Lonely Hearts to win open
hope this helps[/quote]
the jynx strat[/quote]
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hope this helps[/quote]
the jynx strat[/quote]
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Seeds 1-8 are set.
1. Meat Market
2. Quantum Flux
3. Flash Sharks
4. Budsquad
5. Lonely Hearts
6. Madboys
7. masturb8
8. Medical Geniuses
The rest is still up in the air depending on the outcome of the match tomorrow between Unannounced Pleasure and Besaid Aurochs.
Possibilities:
9. UP/Society of Yomies (UP if UP wins, SoY if BA wins)
10. SoY/Game of Throws (SoY if UP wins, GoT if BA wins)
11. UP/GoT/Team Lockdown (UP if UP loses and scores 4, GoT if UP wins, Lockdown if UP loses and scores 0-2)
12. UP/Lock (UP if UP loses and scores 0-2, Lock if UP loses and scores 4)
13. Besaid Aurochs/The Smouldering Remains (BA if BA wins, Remains if UP wins)
14. Remains/Oh Boy Open Again (Remains if BA wins, Oh Boy if UP wins)
15. Oh Boy/all in with allen (Oh Boy if BA wins, allen if UP wins)
16. allen/Ingenuity/BA (allen if BA wins, Ing if UP wins, BA if BA loses and scores 4 AND wins play-in game)
Two matches to determine seedings are possible. If UP scores 3 in a loss, they'll play Team Lockdown for the 11/12 seed. If BA scores 4 in a loss they'll play Ingenuity for the last playoff spot.
Everyone mentioned is safe for playoffs except Besaid Aurochs (needs a win or 4 points in a loss to stay alive) and Ingenuity (needs a UP win to stay alive)
I mentioned before that throwing the match was a possibility for UP, but that's pretty much out the window, as the possible first round matchups of AG or Lonely Hearts aren't any better than the matchup against Medical Geniuses that UP would get if they win.
PS, Flash Sharks gets the 3 seed over Budsquad by virtue of their head to head win, even though the RF is in Budsquad's favor. I don't think that the head to head tiebreaker applies anywhere else because every other team shares a record with more than one team, so RF will be the decider in all 12-4/11-5/10-6 cases.
Seeds 1-8 are set.
1. Meat Market
2. Quantum Flux
3. Flash Sharks
4. Budsquad
5. Lonely Hearts
6. Madboys
7. masturb8
8. Medical Geniuses
The rest is still up in the air depending on the outcome of the match tomorrow between Unannounced Pleasure and Besaid Aurochs.
Possibilities:
9. UP/Society of Yomies (UP if UP wins, SoY if BA wins)
10. SoY/Game of Throws (SoY if UP wins, GoT if BA wins)
11. UP/GoT/Team Lockdown (UP if UP loses and scores 4, GoT if UP wins, Lockdown if UP loses and scores 0-2)
12. UP/Lock (UP if UP loses and scores 0-2, Lock if UP loses and scores 4)
13. Besaid Aurochs/The Smouldering Remains (BA if BA wins, Remains if UP wins)
14. Remains/Oh Boy Open Again (Remains if BA wins, Oh Boy if UP wins)
15. Oh Boy/all in with allen (Oh Boy if BA wins, allen if UP wins)
16. allen/Ingenuity/BA (allen if BA wins, Ing if UP wins, BA if BA loses and scores 4 AND wins play-in game)
Two matches to determine seedings are possible. If UP scores 3 in a loss, they'll play Team Lockdown for the 11/12 seed. If BA scores 4 in a loss they'll play Ingenuity for the last playoff spot.
Everyone mentioned is safe for playoffs except Besaid Aurochs (needs a win or 4 points in a loss to stay alive) and Ingenuity (needs a UP win to stay alive)
I mentioned before that throwing the match was a possibility for UP, but that's pretty much out the window, as the possible first round matchups of AG or Lonely Hearts aren't any better than the matchup against Medical Geniuses that UP would get if they win.
PS, Flash Sharks gets the 3 seed over Budsquad by virtue of their head to head win, even though the RF is in Budsquad's favor. I don't think that the head to head tiebreaker applies anywhere else because every other team shares a record with more than one team, so RF will be the decider in all 12-4/11-5/10-6 cases.
1. Meat Market
2. Quantum Flux
3. Flash Sharks
4. Budsquad
5. Lonely Hearts
6. Madboys
7. masturb8
8. Medical Geniuses
The rest is still up in the air depending on the outcome of the match tomorrow between Unannounced Pleasure and Besaid Aurochs.
Possibilities:
9. UP/Society of Yomies (UP if UP wins, SoY if BA wins)
10. SoY/Game of Throws (SoY if UP wins, GoT if BA wins)
11. UP/GoT/Team Lockdown (UP if UP loses and scores 4, GoT if UP wins, Lockdown if UP loses and scores 0-2)
12. UP/Lock (UP if UP loses and scores 0-2, Lock if UP loses and scores 4)
13. Besaid Aurochs/The Smouldering Remains (BA if BA wins, Remains if UP wins)
14. Remains/Oh Boy Open Again (Remains if BA wins, Oh Boy if UP wins)
15. Oh Boy/all in with allen (Oh Boy if BA wins, allen if UP wins)
16. allen/Ingenuity/BA (allen if BA wins, Ing if UP wins, BA if BA loses and scores 4 AND wins play-in game)
Two matches to determine seedings are possible. If UP scores 3 in a loss, they'll play Team Lockdown for the 11/12 seed. If BA scores 4 in a loss they'll play Ingenuity for the last playoff spot.
Everyone mentioned is safe for playoffs except Besaid Aurochs (needs a win or 4 points in a loss to stay alive) and Ingenuity (needs a UP win to stay alive)
I mentioned before that throwing the match was a possibility for UP, but that's pretty much out the window, as the possible first round matchups of AG or Lonely Hearts aren't any better than the matchup against Medical Geniuses that UP would get if they win.
PS, Flash Sharks gets the 3 seed over Budsquad by virtue of their head to head win, even though the RF is in Budsquad's favor. I don't think that the head to head tiebreaker applies anywhere else because every other team shares a record with more than one team, so RF will be the decider in all 12-4/11-5/10-6 cases.
also, the Yomies/Madboys match last night was a LOT of fun to watch, even though the golden cap round was a little underwhelming. Pretty intense stuff.
also, the Yomies/Madboys match last night was a LOT of fun to watch, even though the golden cap round was a little underwhelming. Pretty intense stuff.
Mr_Owlalso, the Yomies/Madboys match last night was a LOT of fun to watch, even though the golden cap round was a little underwhelming. Pretty intense stuff.
ye that was my fault. some irl shit came up that made me not play tf2 for 5 days then i got called in to play because of client issues/BSoD/and no shows... so that happened =\ o well ggs to madboys, gl to everyone in playoffs
[quote=Mr_Owl]also, the Yomies/Madboys match last night was a LOT of fun to watch, even though the golden cap round was a little underwhelming. Pretty intense stuff.[/quote]
ye that was my fault. some irl shit came up that made me not play tf2 for 5 days then i got called in to play because of client issues/BSoD/and no shows... so that happened =\ o well ggs to madboys, gl to everyone in playoffs
ye that was my fault. some irl shit came up that made me not play tf2 for 5 days then i got called in to play because of client issues/BSoD/and no shows... so that happened =\ o well ggs to madboys, gl to everyone in playoffs
2 golden cap matches on snakewater has to be painful. Much respect to yomies for putting on 2 incredible matches that truly could have gone either way.
owl is it 12 or 16 spots for playoffs??
2 golden cap matches on snakewater has to be painful. Much respect to yomies for putting on 2 incredible matches that truly could have gone either way.
owl is it 12 or 16 spots for playoffs??
owl is it 12 or 16 spots for playoffs??
Phaser2 golden cap matches on snakewater has to be painful. Much respect to yomies for putting on 2 incredible matches that truly could have gone either way.
owl is it 12 or 16 spots for playoffs??
Playoffs are top 16 like S14 i think
[quote=Phaser]2 golden cap matches on snakewater has to be painful. Much respect to yomies for putting on 2 incredible matches that truly could have gone either way.
owl is it 12 or 16 spots for playoffs??[/quote]
Playoffs are top 16 like S14 i think
owl is it 12 or 16 spots for playoffs??[/quote]
Playoffs are top 16 like S14 i think
It's been top 16 for as long as I can remember, so while officially there's no word, it'll almost certainly be top 16, no byes or anything silly like that.
It's been top 16 for as long as I can remember, so while officially there's no word, it'll almost certainly be top 16, no byes or anything silly like that.
Our match with AG was intense toward the end. Was a good game.
Our match with AG was intense toward the end. Was a good game.
http://i.imgur.com/IiUJlFr.jpg
First round match-ups for playoffs. Should be some very good games.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IiUJlFr.jpg[/IMG]
First round match-ups for playoffs. Should be some very good games.
First round match-ups for playoffs. Should be some very good games.
Pegman[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IiUJlFr.jpg[/IMG]
First round match-ups for playoffs. Should be some very good games.
These are not set in stone (there is still a regular season match to be played), and Fedora Flippers has been marked dead so they won't be a part of playoffs, but I do agree with you that there will be some great early-round games.
[quote=Pegman][IMG]http://i.imgur.com/IiUJlFr.jpg[/IMG]
First round match-ups for playoffs. Should be some very good games.[/quote]
These are not set in stone (there is still a regular season match to be played), and Fedora Flippers has been marked dead so they won't be a part of playoffs, but I do agree with you that there will be some great early-round games.
First round match-ups for playoffs. Should be some very good games.[/quote]
These are not set in stone (there is still a regular season match to be played), and Fedora Flippers has been marked dead so they won't be a part of playoffs, but I do agree with you that there will be some great early-round games.
Mr_OwlThese are not set in stone (there is still a regular season match to be played), and Fedora Flippers has been marked dead so they won't be a part of playoffs, but I do agree with you that there will be some great early-round games.
UP and Besaid Aurochs ruining everything :(
[quote=Mr_Owl]
These are not set in stone (there is still a regular season match to be played), and Fedora Flippers has been marked dead so they won't be a part of playoffs, but I do agree with you that there will be some great early-round games.[/quote]
UP and Besaid Aurochs ruining everything :(
These are not set in stone (there is still a regular season match to be played), and Fedora Flippers has been marked dead so they won't be a part of playoffs, but I do agree with you that there will be some great early-round games.[/quote]
UP and Besaid Aurochs ruining everything :(
PegmanMr_OwlThese are not set in stone (there is still a regular season match to be played), and Fedora Flippers has been marked dead so they won't be a part of playoffs, but I do agree with you that there will be some great early-round games.
UP and Besaid Aurochs ruining everything :(
Yeah, sucks that scheduling worked out like it did. I'm pretty sure there's a week 9 match in IM as well. Not sure about Main, but it's not typical for open to have this sort of scheduling quirk.
[quote=Pegman][quote=Mr_Owl]
These are not set in stone (there is still a regular season match to be played), and Fedora Flippers has been marked dead so they won't be a part of playoffs, but I do agree with you that there will be some great early-round games.[/quote]
UP and Besaid Aurochs ruining everything :([/quote]
Yeah, sucks that scheduling worked out like it did. I'm pretty sure there's a week 9 match in IM as well. Not sure about Main, but it's not typical for open to have this sort of scheduling quirk.
These are not set in stone (there is still a regular season match to be played), and Fedora Flippers has been marked dead so they won't be a part of playoffs, but I do agree with you that there will be some great early-round games.[/quote]
UP and Besaid Aurochs ruining everything :([/quote]
Yeah, sucks that scheduling worked out like it did. I'm pretty sure there's a week 9 match in IM as well. Not sure about Main, but it's not typical for open to have this sort of scheduling quirk.
Btw, I'm predicting 5-2 UP tonight. Neither team has been scrimming much (fuck you UP) so I'm gonna go with the team that has a more impressive resume to this point. Even though UP has very little to play for, I think their DM and overall cohesion will carry them to this one.
(incoming UP loss)
Btw, I'm predicting 5-2 UP tonight. Neither team has been scrimming much (fuck you UP) so I'm gonna go with the team that has a more impressive resume to this point. Even though UP has very little to play for, I think their DM and overall cohesion will carry them to this one.
(incoming UP loss)
(incoming UP loss)
Gonna guess the week of 1/6. It's usually a break of a couple weeks so I assume they'll just wait until after the holidays like they did after week 1 of season 13.
Gonna guess the week of 1/6. It's usually a break of a couple weeks so I assume they'll just wait until after the holidays like they did after week 1 of season 13.
Mr_OwlBtw, I'm predicting 5-2 UP tonight.(fuck you UP)
time to get fucked UP
[quote=Mr_Owl]Btw, I'm predicting 5-2 UP tonight.(fuck you UP)[/quote]
time to get fucked UP
time to get fucked UP
MR_SLINtime to get fucked UP
[quote=MR_SLIN]time to get fucked UP[/quote]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/OjSScbl.gif[/img]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/OjSScbl.gif[/img]
spaceghostpurrpWhen do playoffs start?
[quote=spaceghostpurrp]When do playoffs start?[/quote] http://play.esea.net/index.php?s=forums&d=topic&id=535043
1. Meat Market vs. 16. Ingenuity
8. Medical Geniuses vs. 9. Unannounced Pleasure
4. BUDSQUAD vs. 13. The Smouldering Remains
5. Lonely Hearts vs. 12. Team Lockdown
2. Quantum Flux vs. 15. all in without allen
7. masturb8 to anime vs. 10. Society of Yomies
3. Flash Sharks vs. 14. Oh Boy Open Again
6. AG Madboys vs. 11. Game of Throws
Best round 1 matchups (IMO) are MG/UP, masturb8/Yomies, and AG/GoT
I'd be an idiot if I picked against lonely hearts again but I think Lockdown could at least give them a good game. Flash Sharks vs. Oh Boy could be decent depending on the lineup Oh Boy rolls out. I don't see QF/all in, Buds/Remains, or Meat/iNg being that close, which probably means that they're all gonna be 5-4 nailbiters.
1. Meat Market vs. 16. Ingenuity
8. Medical Geniuses vs. 9. Unannounced Pleasure
4. BUDSQUAD vs. 13. The Smouldering Remains
5. Lonely Hearts vs. 12. Team Lockdown
2. Quantum Flux vs. 15. all in without allen
7. masturb8 to anime vs. 10. Society of Yomies
3. Flash Sharks vs. 14. Oh Boy Open Again
6. AG Madboys vs. 11. Game of Throws
Best round 1 matchups (IMO) are MG/UP, masturb8/Yomies, and AG/GoT
I'd be an idiot if I picked against lonely hearts again but I think Lockdown could at least give them a good game. Flash Sharks vs. Oh Boy could be decent depending on the lineup Oh Boy rolls out. I don't see QF/all in, Buds/Remains, or Meat/iNg being that close, which probably means that they're all gonna be 5-4 nailbiters.
8. Medical Geniuses vs. 9. Unannounced Pleasure
4. BUDSQUAD vs. 13. The Smouldering Remains
5. Lonely Hearts vs. 12. Team Lockdown
2. Quantum Flux vs. 15. all in without allen
7. masturb8 to anime vs. 10. Society of Yomies
3. Flash Sharks vs. 14. Oh Boy Open Again
6. AG Madboys vs. 11. Game of Throws
Best round 1 matchups (IMO) are MG/UP, masturb8/Yomies, and AG/GoT
I'd be an idiot if I picked against lonely hearts again but I think Lockdown could at least give them a good game. Flash Sharks vs. Oh Boy could be decent depending on the lineup Oh Boy rolls out. I don't see QF/all in, Buds/Remains, or Meat/iNg being that close, which probably means that they're all gonna be 5-4 nailbiters.
hmmm ingenuity is 17th and all in without allen is 16...did something happen to upset the seeds or am i seeing things?
nvm fedora flippers are dead, correct?
hmmm ingenuity is 17th and all in without allen is 16...did something happen to upset the seeds or am i seeing things?
nvm fedora flippers are dead, correct?
nvm fedora flippers are dead, correct?
fedora flippers are dead, yeah.
also i mentioned this before, but budsquad is currently 3rd and flash sharks 4th, but with the esea tiebreaker rules, those seeds should flip (head to head win takes precedence over RF)
everything else should be as it is.
fedora flippers are dead, yeah.
also i mentioned this before, but budsquad is currently 3rd and flash sharks 4th, but with the esea tiebreaker rules, those seeds should flip (head to head win takes precedence over RF)
everything else should be as it is.
also i mentioned this before, but budsquad is currently 3rd and flash sharks 4th, but with the esea tiebreaker rules, those seeds should flip (head to head win takes precedence over RF)
everything else should be as it is.
Mr_Owlalso i mentioned this before, but budsquad is currently 3rd and flash sharks 4th, but with the esea tiebreaker rules, those seeds should flip (head to head win takes precedence over RF)
yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah i don't know how often those things actually kick in but i guess we'll see. in the past i remember talking to someone about this exact thing happening but then the seeds just stayed the same. i guess we'll have to wait until post season standings are out HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH
i'll be doing round 1 preds this week :D
[quote=Mr_Owl]also i mentioned this before, but budsquad is currently 3rd and flash sharks 4th, but with the esea tiebreaker rules, those seeds should flip (head to head win takes precedence over RF)
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yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah i don't know how often those things actually kick in but i guess we'll see. in the past i remember talking to someone about this exact thing happening but then the seeds just stayed the same. i guess we'll have to wait until post season standings are out HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH
i'll be doing round 1 preds this week :D
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yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah i don't know how often those things actually kick in but i guess we'll see. in the past i remember talking to someone about this exact thing happening but then the seeds just stayed the same. i guess we'll have to wait until post season standings are out HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH HEH
i'll be doing round 1 preds this week :D
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