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Was added recently to the game (unused), currently unknown what purpose this will hold, possibly Tf2 team are finally making a Competitive matchmaking? or it's just something new for MvM/Quick-Play?
Source: http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1398764&p=45674243&viewfull=1#post45674243
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http://i.kokney.com/2014-08-12_23-26-38.png
Was added recently to the game (unused), currently unknown what purpose this will hold, possibly Tf2 team are finally making a Competitive matchmaking? or it's just something new for MvM/Quick-Play?
Source: http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1398764&p=45674243&viewfull=1#post45674243
I don't want to get excited but I am.
I don't want to get excited but I am.
We can only hope. It would probably be best to compare this disassembly to that of csgo.
We can only hope. It would probably be best to compare this disassembly to that of csgo.
knowing valve its probably for mvm
knowing valve its probably for mvm
Why can't I ever find this stuff when I'm trawling through the binaries?!?
That's a really cool find, and I really do hope that something nice comes of it.
Why can't I ever find this stuff when I'm trawling through the binaries?!?
That's a really cool find, and I really do hope that something nice comes of it.
It wouldn't make too much sense to include a ranking system for MvM as all the worst players would be grouped together at the bottom and would never win anything. The robots don't get any easier, unlike in matchmaking where players on both teams would be ranked low, resulting in a fair match.
It wouldn't make too much sense to include a ranking system for MvM as all the worst players would be grouped together at the bottom and would never win anything. The robots don't get any easier, unlike in matchmaking where players on both teams would be ranked low, resulting in a fair match.
Agreeing with the above, it probably has something to do with quick-play in all honesty. I'm trying to find it first, but I remember a SPUF (Steam-Powered User Forums) thread that outlined issues with quick-play and being launched as a new player into a Valve server and being "crushed", with a few suggestions revolving around assigning ranks as per achievements (which wouldn't make much sense due to SAM) among other things.
If it has anything to do with actually furthering competitive TF2 via a match-making lobby system of some sort though, my heart would explode.
Agreeing with the above, it probably has something to do with quick-play in all honesty. I'm trying to find it first, but I remember a SPUF (Steam-Powered User Forums) thread that outlined issues with quick-play and being launched as a new player into a Valve server and being "crushed", with a few suggestions revolving around assigning ranks as per achievements (which wouldn't make much sense due to SAM) among other things.
If it has anything to do with actually furthering competitive TF2 via a match-making lobby system of some sort though, my heart would explode.
I wonder how cancerous valve matchmaking games would be if we already think TF2Center is just gross?
Or would they somehow be better???
I wonder how cancerous valve matchmaking games would be if we already think TF2Center is just gross?
Or would they somehow be better???
smoboI wonder how cancerous valve matchmaking games would be if we already think TF2Center is just gross?
Or would they somehow be better???
probably 90% of the problems with tf2 lobby if they have class limits
unplayable if they don't because no one will medic
[quote=smobo]I wonder how cancerous valve matchmaking games would be if we already think TF2Center is just gross?
Or would they somehow be better???[/quote]
probably 90% of the problems with tf2 lobby if they have class limits
unplayable if they don't because no one will medic
oh god please let this actually happen
oh god please let this actually happen
if this is for pubs it will just turn into 6 heavy+med combos trying to rank up
if this is for pubs it will just turn into 6 heavy+med combos trying to rank up
If it's match making for Highlander, I swear to god.
If it's match making for Highlander, I swear to god.
pwny_If it's match making for Highlander, I swear to god.
they wouldn't make it 6s :'(
[quote=pwny_]If it's match making for Highlander, I swear to god.[/quote]
they wouldn't make it 6s :'(
Agreed. Highlander is what they were talking about to Sal/eXtine forever ago, so if they've decided to actually do matchmaking there's 0% chance of it being 6s. Too different from pubs.
Agreed. Highlander is what they were talking about to Sal/eXtine forever ago, so if they've decided to actually do matchmaking there's 0% chance of it being 6s. Too different from pubs.
what if its duel wins guys
what if its duel wins guys
I think if enough people showed interest in 6s lobbies, and enough people actually used the HL ones, they might be persuaded to make it for 6s as well. I think right now they don't believe 6s is something they can really get pub players interested in the way they can with HL, if only because of how different it is from pub play. I'd say it's possible, though unlikely, myself.
I think if enough people showed interest in 6s lobbies, and enough people actually used the HL ones, they might be persuaded to make it for 6s as well. I think right now they don't believe 6s is something they can really get pub players interested in the way they can with HL, if only because of how different it is from pub play. I'd say it's possible, though unlikely, myself.
But will there be item restrictions? the pomson strats....
But will there be item restrictions? the pomson strats....
BobbyTablesBut will there be item restrictions? the pomson strats....
knowing valve there won't be
time to play pomson/sc/gunslinger engie
[quote=BobbyTables]But will there be item restrictions? the pomson strats....[/quote]
knowing valve there won't be
time to play pomson/sc/gunslinger engie
pwny_If it's match making for Highlander, I swear to god.
I'd rather it be highlander than none at all.
[quote=pwny_]If it's match making for Highlander, I swear to god.[/quote]
I'd rather it be highlander than none at all.
TwilitlordBobbyTablesBut will there be item restrictions? the pomson strats....
knowing valve there won't be
time to play pomson/sc/gunslinger engie
That would be good though. It would show how unbalanced or awful some of the weapons are and hopefully provide the TF2 team with some feedback to balance some of the weapons and items.
[quote=Twilitlord][quote=BobbyTables]But will there be item restrictions? the pomson strats....[/quote]
knowing valve there won't be
time to play pomson/sc/gunslinger engie[/quote]
That would be good though. It would show how unbalanced or awful some of the weapons are and hopefully provide the TF2 team with some feedback to balance some of the weapons and items.
fosterwhat if its duel wins guys
I know you're saying this in a joking way, but its possible.
If valve decided to revisit taunts after all these years, I don't see why they wouldn't do it for other features they've neglected.
[quote=foster]what if its duel wins guys[/quote]
I know you're saying this in a joking way, but its possible.
If valve decided to revisit taunts after all these years, I don't see why they wouldn't do it for other features they've neglected.
this is a pretty interesting read as well and relates to this a bit :
http://www.vanillatf2.org/2014/08/zen-and-the-art-of-balancing-a-lobby/
What are the odds they're trying to turn the new mode, rd_asteroid or whatever it is into a competitive skill balanced game mode?
What are the odds they're trying to turn the new mode, rd_asteroid or whatever it is into a competitive skill balanced game mode?
DreamboatWhat are the odds they're trying to turn the new mode, rd_asteroid or whatever it is into a competitive skill balanced game mode?
it's closer to dota than any other gamemode...
[quote=Dreamboat]What are the odds they're trying to turn the new mode, rd_asteroid or whatever it is into a competitive skill balanced game mode?[/quote]
it's closer to dota than any other gamemode...
cMwthis is a pretty interesting read as well and relates to this a bit :
http://www.vanillatf2.org/2014/08/zen-and-the-art-of-balancing-a-lobby/
Goddam that's a meaty post. I'm not so hot at reading graphs but from the things I do understand it sounds like a pretty interesting system.
[quote=cMw]this is a pretty interesting read as well and relates to this a bit :
http://www.vanillatf2.org/2014/08/zen-and-the-art-of-balancing-a-lobby/[/quote]
Goddam that's a meaty post. I'm not so hot at reading graphs but from the things I do understand it sounds like a pretty interesting system.
Nice did you just use Visual studio? I have been reading recently how to look at their source code, but haven't dug too deep.
References: here here and here
Nice did you just use Visual studio? I have been reading recently how to look at their source code, but haven't dug too deep.
References: [url=https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Licensing_Valve_Technology]here[/url] [url=https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Category:Source_SDK_FAQ]here[/url] and [url=https://github.com/ValveSoftware/source-sdk-2013]here[/url]
if this is actually related to a competitive lobby system i'll be extremely happy. who cares if it's highlander: valve is acknowledging and supporting the competitive scene. also as kurt said it would be a good way for them to balance the game and fix the dumb weapons (for example when they released that new pistol in csgo they used stats from mm to help balance it).
if this is actually related to a competitive lobby system i'll be extremely happy. who cares if it's highlander: [i]valve is acknowledging and supporting the competitive scene[/i]. also as kurt said it would be a good way for them to balance the game and fix the dumb weapons (for example when they released that new pistol in csgo they used stats from mm to help balance it).
why do valve not like 6s? have people actually spoken to them about 6s vs hl ?
why do valve not like 6s? have people actually spoken to them about 6s vs hl ?
Daveiiwhy do valve not like 6s? have people actually spoken to them about 6s vs hl ?
They don't like it because it is nothing like pubs and because of all the rules that come along with it. If valve ever decides to support competitive, it is most likely going to be highlander because highlander is basically a sorta organized pub.
[quote=Daveii]why do valve not like 6s? have people actually spoken to them about 6s vs hl ?[/quote]
They don't like it because it is nothing like pubs and because of all the rules that come along with it. If valve ever decides to support competitive, it is most likely going to be highlander because highlander is basically a sorta organized pub.
When valve wanted diversity in comp tf2 they failed to realize that most of the weapons they released were either incredibly OP or entirely useless. If this materializes, hopefully it gives them the opportunity to rebalance weapons based on community feedback and hopefully give us an actually more diverse meta.
When valve wanted diversity in comp tf2 they failed to realize that most of the weapons they released were either incredibly OP or entirely useless. If this materializes, hopefully it gives them the opportunity to rebalance weapons based on community feedback and hopefully give us an actually more diverse meta.