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Rules Don't Matter? [The UGC Experience]
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#61
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So since people are gonna press the little down arrow whenever they see my name, I'm gonna see how I do with this one:

I honestly don't think me, nor my team or anyone involved, is trying to say that we wanted to play with the unfair advantage. We just wanted to follow the rules and get the games over with. If there were no ping issues and they had won fair and square, then that's just how it would be. We won the 1st season, they won the 2nd season. It's been fun so far. Let's keep that battle going.

What this post here is about is the disregard of rules. The UGC admins should state something like, "in order to keep Finals/Playoff matches fair, they will be played at a time, at a place, where both teams can play to their best abilities within reason."(The 'within reason' is to keep teams from getting four Invite ringers because they want to make the game 'fair' in their eyes or whatever) It should be stated that any of the rules, such as the 'ping average' rule or the '3rd map on home team server' rule will be subject to change based upon this.

So since people are gonna press the little down arrow whenever they see my name, I'm gonna see how I do with this one:

I honestly don't think me, nor my team or anyone involved, is trying to say that we [i]wanted[/i] to play with the unfair advantage. We just wanted to follow the rules and get the games over with. If there were no ping issues and they had won fair and square, then that's just how it would be. We won the 1st season, they won the 2nd season. It's been fun so far. Let's keep that battle going.

What this post here is about is the disregard of rules. The UGC admins should state something like, "in order to keep Finals/Playoff matches fair, they will be played at a time, at a place, where both teams can play to their best abilities [u][b]within reason[/b][/u]."(The 'within reason' is to keep teams from getting four Invite ringers because they want to make the game 'fair' in their eyes [size=10]or whatever[/size]) It should be stated that any of the rules, such as the 'ping average' rule or the '3rd map on home team server' rule will be subject to change based upon this.
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#62
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ok

ok
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#63
4 Frags +

http://i.imgur.com/LRZwzN5.gif

[img]http://i.imgur.com/LRZwzN5.gif[/img]
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#64
22 Frags +

Honestly you shouldn't be able to force someone to play with awful ping on your garbage server if you can easily just get into a server that has fair ping for everyone lol. Don't go on some kind of crusade about not following the rules because I bet if this had happened to someone on your team you'd be calling them out for being rule-nazis or something and that they should make an exception for "fairness" because it was the grand finals. There's plenty of examples of UGC admins doing shitty things in the past. This isn't one of them.

Honestly you shouldn't be able to force someone to play with awful ping on your garbage server if you can easily just get into a server that has fair ping for everyone lol. Don't go on some kind of crusade about not following the rules because I bet if this had happened to someone on your team you'd be calling them out for being rule-nazis or something and that they should make an exception for "fairness" because it was the grand finals. There's plenty of examples of UGC admins doing shitty things in the past. This isn't one of them.
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#65
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http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcgnbuUlsl1qi63mr.png

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#66
15 Frags +

So you're upset because the rules stated that the other team had to play on your shit server and the admins can't revoke that because of said shit server? Admit it, you'd be salty as fuck if you were in the other teams situation and had to play that way. They did right and you're looking for pity because "that's what the rules said". Man up you candyass.

So you're upset because the rules stated that the other team had to play on your shit server and the admins can't revoke that because of said shit server? Admit it, you'd be salty as fuck if you were in the other teams situation and had to play that way. They did right and you're looking for pity because "that's what the rules said". Man up you candyass.
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#67
23 Frags +
KaiThePhaux*awful picture*

http://i.imgur.com/D4pqUWN.png

You are playing a game of escalation with me that you will never win.

[quote=KaiThePhaux]*awful picture*[/quote]
[img]http://i.imgur.com/D4pqUWN.png[/img]

You are playing a game of escalation with me that you will never win.
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#68
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MunchKaiThePhaux*awful picture*http://i.imgur.com/D4pqUWN.png

You are playing a game of escalation with me that you will never win.

No no, don't you see? No matter what I say I'll get ~-10 frags.

I could literally type the nicest, most supportive of things and I'll get downvoted.

It's like a superpower.

[quote=Munch][quote=KaiThePhaux]*awful picture*[/quote]
http://i.imgur.com/D4pqUWN.png

You are playing a game of escalation with me that you will never win.[/quote]

No no, don't you see? No matter what I say I'll get ~-10 frags.

I could literally type the nicest, most supportive of things and I'll get downvoted.

[i]It's like a superpower.[/i]
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#69
31 Frags +

you get downvoted because you have autism and take 4v4 too seriously

you get downvoted because you have autism and take 4v4 too seriously
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#70
11 Frags +

So why did you want to move back to your server when everyone had good/decent ping on the other server? You say you wanted to get the games over with, so it would have been faster and fairer if you had continued playing on the 2nd server where no one had ping issues.

Like, yea, they didn't enforce the rules, that's something you bring to them, and then to the public if they don't do something about it after asking them. This thread and your posts, however, make the situation look like you just tried to get an easy win against a 195 ping Demo.

So why did you want to move back to your server when everyone had good/decent ping on the other server? You say you wanted to get the games over with, so it would have been faster and fairer if you had continued playing on the 2nd server where no one had ping issues.

Like, yea, they didn't enforce the rules, that's something you bring to them, and then to the public if they don't do something about it after asking them. This thread and your posts, however, make the situation look like you just tried to get an easy win against a 195 ping Demo.
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#71
5 Frags +

this thread basically is tainting your reputation, making you a tiresome sore loser

i thought the point of ugc was to have fun no matter the difficulties, not to create a war between friends

p.s - holy shit i posted something that wasnt stupid for once

this thread basically is tainting your reputation, making you a tiresome sore loser

i thought the point of ugc was to have fun no matter the difficulties, not to create a war between friends

p.s - holy shit i posted something that wasnt stupid for once
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#72
17 Frags +

I CAME IN 3RD PLACE FOR FOURS
WATCH OUT

I CAME IN 3RD PLACE FOR FOURS
WATCH OUT
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#73
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hitherethis thread basically is tainting your reputation, making you a tiresome sore loser

There's nothing I can honestly do about that.

hitherei thought the point of ugc was to have fun no matter the difficulties, not to create a war between friends

Yeah, and I agree with that.

[quote=hithere]this thread basically is tainting your reputation, making you a tiresome sore loser[/quote]

There's nothing I can honestly do about that.

[quote=hithere]i thought [b]the point of ugc was to have fun no matter the difficulties, not to create a war between friends[/b][/quote]

Yeah, and I agree with that.
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#74
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KaiThePhauxThere's nothing I can honestly do about that.

stop posting

[quote=KaiThePhaux]
There's nothing I can honestly do about that.
[/quote]
stop posting
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#75
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KaiThePhauxhitherethis thread basically is tainting your reputation, making you a tiresome sore loser
There's nothing I can honestly do about that.

stop whinging

[quote=KaiThePhaux][quote=hithere]this thread basically is tainting your reputation, making you a tiresome sore loser[/quote]

There's nothing I can honestly do about that.[/quote]

stop whinging
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#76
51 Frags +

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6455086/notfair.jpg

[img]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6455086/notfair.jpg[/img]
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#77
23 Frags +
KaiThePhauxhitherethis thread basically is tainting your reputation, making you a tiresome sore loser
There's nothing I can honestly do about that.

Yes there is.

Here, I'll even do it for you. Since I'm just a nice guy and all.

"You know what? I'm sorry. I'm being a sore loser. Trying to force a team to play with an absurdly high ping Demoman is poor sportsmanship, and I understand that we should have just played it and accepted the outcome. I was salty that we got stomped in a fair fight, and as such I acted like a child. While I understand that my reputation has taken a very harsh blow due to my actions, I hope that some day I can earn some small amount of respect back in the future.

Have a nice day, everyone."

[quote=KaiThePhaux][quote=hithere]this thread basically is tainting your reputation, making you a tiresome sore loser[/quote]

There's nothing I can honestly do about that.
[/quote]
Yes there is.

Here, I'll even do it for you. Since I'm just a nice guy and all.

"You know what? I'm sorry. I'm being a sore loser. Trying to force a team to play with an absurdly high ping Demoman is poor sportsmanship, and I understand that we should have just played it and accepted the outcome. I was salty that we got stomped in a fair fight, and as such I acted like a child. While I understand that my reputation has taken a very harsh blow due to my actions, I hope that some day I can earn some small amount of respect back in the future.

Have a nice day, everyone."
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#78
16 Frags +

you're complaining about how you couldn't win because xan didn't have 200 ping. there really isn't anything more to this thread, fuck your "but muh rules" bullshit

you're complaining about how you couldn't win because xan didn't have 200 ping. there really isn't anything more to this thread, fuck your "but muh rules" bullshit
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#79
-14 Frags +

who r u

who r u
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#80
5 Frags +

the 4v4 grind for champion is too real.........................

i didn't know it was possible to be this much of a douche but you guys achieved it

the 4v4 grind for champion is too real.........................

i didn't know it was possible to be this much of a douche but you guys achieved it
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#81
9 Frags +

im mad that a rule that makes more sense (switching servers because average ping is bad) is more important than playing the 3rd map on the home team server

do you understand how fucking retarded you are? ur literally complaining that you had to play on against a team with the same ping as you

im mad that a rule that makes more sense (switching servers because average ping is bad) is more important than playing the 3rd map on the home team server

do you understand how fucking retarded you are? ur literally complaining that you had to play on against a team with the same ping as you
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#82
5 Frags +
KaiThePhauxI honestly don't think me, nor my team or anyone involved, is trying to say that we wanted to play with the unfair advantage.KaiThePhauxIt's implied.
[quote=KaiThePhaux]I honestly don't think me, nor my team or anyone involved, is trying to say that we [i]wanted[/i] to play with the unfair advantage.[/quote]
[quote=KaiThePhaux]It's implied.[/quote]
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#83
-16 Frags +

Didn't know 4v4 was a thing outside center... op has a valid complaint, u guys keep calling the server "shit" but 3/4 have adequate ping and a 4th apparently has shit Internet/routing. Its not their fault yet they get forced to move and were prolly qq'n about it all game and got dunked on.

Id be salty too. Purely on precedence

Didn't know 4v4 was a thing outside center... op has a valid complaint, u guys keep calling the server "shit" but 3/4 have adequate ping and a 4th apparently has shit Internet/routing. Its not their fault yet they get forced to move and were prolly qq'n about it all game and got dunked on.

Id be salty too. Purely on precedence
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#84
0 Frags +

Seems like salt from losing, but anywho. The rules can be changed at any point and they were done so which seemed like a pretty good ruling. A 3rd party server was made so both teams were on equal grounds. So are you complaining that you want him to have 200 ping? Or that an issue like this shouldn't be resolved because a rule ( which can be overturned )was made. Either way, it's really dumb arguing it, and it makes you look bad.

And remember, when you lose posting on tftv is the BEST way to solve all of your problems.

Seems like salt from losing, but anywho. The rules can be changed at any point and they were done so which seemed like a pretty good ruling. A 3rd party server was made so both teams were on equal grounds. So are you complaining that you want him to have 200 ping? Or that an issue like this shouldn't be resolved because a rule ( which can be overturned )was made. Either way, it's really dumb arguing it, and it makes you look bad.

And remember, when you lose posting on tftv is the BEST way to solve all of your problems.
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#85
6 Frags +

I for one welcome this new precedent.

No more having to play Demoman on someone's shitty Georgia/Florida server with 200+ ping.

I for one welcome this new precedent.

No more having to play Demoman on someone's shitty Georgia/Florida server with 200+ ping.
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#86
2 Frags +

i lost 4v4 in south america. i did

i lost 4v4 in south america. i did
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#87
-8 Frags +

hey if it makes you feel better, we're forced to give teams free wins in ugc

up 3-0 against lonely hearts and bam we get ddosed so they can win.
if we pause we lose
gg

hey if it makes you feel better, we're forced to give teams free wins in ugc

up 3-0 against lonely hearts and bam we get ddosed so they can win.
if we pause we lose
gg
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#88
17 Frags +

not the first time that a kaithephaux team went default hunting, nor will it be the last

not the first time that a kaithephaux team went default hunting, nor will it be the last
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#89
2 Frags +

I was in ugc once.

I was in ugc once.
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#90
-11 Frags +

man when i realized OP was serious

http://i.imgur.com/9ChLGPq.gif

man when i realized OP was serious

[img]http://i.imgur.com/9ChLGPq.gif[/img]
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