a friend told me that you have to multiply x10 the ammount of your tf2 scale to get an equivalet ql accel
i use 0.04 in tf2, should i use 0.4 in the driver or 0.04 is fine?
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a friend told me that you have to multiply x10 the ammount of your tf2 scale to get an equivalet ql accel
i use 0.04 in tf2, should i use 0.4 in the driver or 0.04 is fine?
i use 0.04 in tf2, should i use 0.4 in the driver or 0.04 is fine?
nemoa friend told me that you have to multiply x10 the ammount of your tf2 scale to get an equivalet ql accel
i use 0.04 in tf2, should i use 0.4 in the driver or 0.04 is fine?
It will depend on your TF2 fps, as source engine acceleration is apparently fps dependent. Injx describes the relationship between the two games here http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=1903728#pid1903738
[quote=nemo]a friend told me that you have to multiply x10 the ammount of your tf2 scale to get an equivalet ql accel
i use 0.04 in tf2, should i use 0.4 in the driver or 0.04 is fine?[/quote]
It will depend on your TF2 fps, as source engine acceleration is apparently fps dependent. Injx describes the relationship between the two games here http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=1903728#pid1903738
i use 0.04 in tf2, should i use 0.4 in the driver or 0.04 is fine?[/quote]
It will depend on your TF2 fps, as source engine acceleration is apparently fps dependent. Injx describes the relationship between the two games here http://www.esreality.com/index.php?a=post&id=1903728#pid1903738
would use this if it was usable at esea lan, but i don't see that happening
would use this if it was usable at esea lan, but i don't see that happening
How do I set my g400 to 500hz and use this? I can't get hidusbf to work and 1000hz causes mad problems for my computer for whatever reason.
How do I set my g400 to 500hz and use this? I can't get hidusbf to work and 1000hz causes mad problems for my computer for whatever reason.
boomerwould use this if it was usable at esea lan, but i don't see that happening
Don't they allow mouse drivers though? Is this considered something else?
[quote=boomer]would use this if it was usable at esea lan, but i don't see that happening[/quote]
Don't they allow mouse drivers though? Is this considered something else?
Don't they allow mouse drivers though? Is this considered something else?
This is an unsigned driver from an untrusted third party. Windows has to boot into test mode and store an untrusted certificate in the trusted root certificate store. But apart from that it's not really outside the scope of what a normal mouse driver does.
Also hey I did a little bugfix/feature update recently. Unfortunately it is still just as difficult to install for some people. If you have a Zowie mouse, I have some troubleshooting instructions that were donated by a Zowie mouse user.
This is an unsigned driver from an untrusted third party. Windows has to boot into test mode and store an untrusted certificate in the trusted root certificate store. But apart from that it's not really outside the scope of what a normal mouse driver does.
Also hey I did a little bugfix/feature update recently. Unfortunately it is still just as difficult to install for some people. If you have a Zowie mouse, I have some troubleshooting instructions that were donated by a Zowie mouse user.
Also hey I did a little bugfix/feature update recently. Unfortunately it is still just as difficult to install for some people. If you have a Zowie mouse, I have some troubleshooting instructions that were donated by a Zowie mouse user.
povohatSorry if it doesn't work on your machine, I am having trouble tracking down these issues because I cannot reproduce them on my system.
The driver compiles with no warnings through the microsoft driver rules code analysis pass, it shows no problems in microsoft's driver verifier utility and passes the static driver verifier with the strictest rule set. The whole thing is based on an example driver from microsoft themselves.
+frag if it works on your system
-frag if it doesnt
Tried literally every method I could think of for the code 52 error. It's strange because I'd always been using moudrv before and it was working fine.
I just hit f8 on startup and disabled driver checking and it's working now but I'd have to do that every time I booted up (which tbf I don't mind too much).
Cheers for the driver
[quote=povohat]Sorry if it doesn't work on your machine, I am having trouble tracking down these issues because I cannot reproduce them on my system.
The driver compiles with no warnings through the microsoft driver rules code analysis pass, it shows no problems in microsoft's driver verifier utility and passes the static driver verifier with the strictest rule set. The whole thing is based on an example driver from microsoft themselves.
+frag if it works on your system
-frag if it doesnt[/quote]
Tried literally every method I could think of for the code 52 error. It's strange because I'd always been using moudrv before and it was working fine.
I just hit f8 on startup and disabled driver checking and it's working now but I'd have to do that every time I booted up (which tbf I don't mind too much).
Cheers for the driver
The driver compiles with no warnings through the microsoft driver rules code analysis pass, it shows no problems in microsoft's driver verifier utility and passes the static driver verifier with the strictest rule set. The whole thing is based on an example driver from microsoft themselves.
+frag if it works on your system
-frag if it doesnt[/quote]
Tried literally every method I could think of for the code 52 error. It's strange because I'd always been using moudrv before and it was working fine.
I just hit f8 on startup and disabled driver checking and it's working now but I'd have to do that every time I booted up (which tbf I don't mind too much).
Cheers for the driver
Good to hear you managed to get it working somehow. The test mode/dseo combo is supposed to do the same as that startup option but I guess it isn't. I also updated this thing about a week ago to beta3.
Good to hear you managed to get it working somehow. The test mode/dseo combo is supposed to do the same as that startup option but I guess it isn't. I also updated this thing about a week ago to beta3.
Works well, thanks povohat!
windows 7x64. no errors here.
Works well, thanks povohat!
windows 7x64. no errors here.
windows 7x64. no errors here.
nice work, I haven't got around to testing it yet, but maybe this: http://pete.akeo.ie/2011/11/free-code-signing-certificate-for-open.html could be interesting.
nice work, I haven't got around to testing it yet, but maybe this: http://pete.akeo.ie/2011/11/free-code-signing-certificate-for-open.html could be interesting.
I get this every time I try to update my mouse driver http://i.imgur.com/XPoZAb0.jpg
Also tried with Normal Startup in msconfig and also tried with b5 version.
I get this every time I try to update my mouse driver http://i.imgur.com/XPoZAb0.jpg
Also tried with Normal Startup in msconfig and also tried with b5 version.
Also tried with Normal Startup in msconfig and also tried with b5 version.
Care to explain whats the difference to the ingame accell setting? Genuinely curious.
Care to explain whats the difference to the ingame accell setting? Genuinely curious.
KanecoCare to explain whats the difference to the ingame accell setting? Genuinely curious.
the accel from the driver isnt based on fps, so its actually possible to use accel without some mega computer
[quote=Kaneco]Care to explain whats the difference to the ingame accell setting? Genuinely curious.[/quote]
the accel from the driver isnt based on fps, so its actually possible to use accel without some mega computer
the accel from the driver isnt based on fps, so its actually possible to use accel without some mega computer
downpourKanecoCare to explain whats the difference to the ingame accell setting? Genuinely curious.the accel from the driver isnt based on fps, so its actually possible to use accel without some mega computer
the ingame accell option is based on fps? What does that mean exactly? Sorry , trying to wrap my head around it can't figure how it works
[quote=downpour][quote=Kaneco]Care to explain whats the difference to the ingame accell setting? Genuinely curious.[/quote]
the accel from the driver isnt based on fps, so its actually possible to use accel without some mega computer[/quote]
the ingame accell option is based on fps? What does that mean exactly? Sorry , trying to wrap my head around it can't figure how it works
the accel from the driver isnt based on fps, so its actually possible to use accel without some mega computer[/quote]
the ingame accell option is based on fps? What does that mean exactly? Sorry , trying to wrap my head around it can't figure how it works
#45
It means that the ingame acceleration depends on your framerate. The lower your framerate is, the more effect it has. So 60fps accel is more extreme than 120fps accel with the same settings. This is because it runs it on the mouse data every frame, and doesn't compensate for higher framerates giving smaller slices of mouse data (up to a point: if the framerate is above your mouse's polling rate then there's a chance what will happen is effectively the same fps as your mouse's polling rate, but staggered across more game frames)
#45
It means that the ingame acceleration depends on your framerate. The lower your framerate is, the more effect it has. So 60fps accel is more extreme than 120fps accel with the same settings. This is because it runs it on the mouse data every frame, and doesn't compensate for higher framerates giving smaller slices of mouse data (up to a point: if the framerate is above your mouse's polling rate then there's a chance what will happen is effectively the same fps as your mouse's polling rate, but staggered across more game frames)
It means that the ingame acceleration depends on your framerate. The lower your framerate is, the more effect it has. So 60fps accel is more extreme than 120fps accel with the same settings. This is because it runs it on the mouse data every frame, and doesn't compensate for higher framerates giving smaller slices of mouse data (up to a point: if the framerate is above your mouse's polling rate then there's a chance what will happen is effectively the same fps as your mouse's polling rate, but staggered across more game frames)
Decided to try this (being a long-time non-accel player) and it works/feels surprisingly well :D Installed very smooth on Win7 64bit. Might actually like this more than non-accel =)
Decided to try this (being a long-time non-accel player) and it works/feels surprisingly well :D Installed very smooth on Win7 64bit. Might actually like this more than non-accel =)
Haven't played with accel in a LONG time but I think I'll have to try using this. Nice job!
Haven't played with accel in a LONG time but I think I'll have to try using this. Nice job!
Okay, I'm wondering why so many people use accel. Can anyone explain it to me?
Okay, I'm wondering why so many people use accel. Can anyone explain it to me?
Not_a_ZombieOkay, I'm wondering why so many people use accel. Can anyone explain it to me?
Personal preference.
[quote=Not_a_Zombie]Okay, I'm wondering why so many people use accel. Can anyone explain it to me?[/quote]
Personal preference.
Personal preference.
I like accel because I can have lower sensitivy for aiming but can still turn around super fast which is often necessary in tf2.
I don't use it anymore, though
I like accel because I can have lower sensitivy for aiming but can still turn around super fast which is often necessary in tf2.
I don't use it anymore, though
I don't use it anymore, though
I use 1.6 sensitivity in-game, if i want to use this should I use 1.6 in-game and 1 in software or the other way around? thanks
Nevermind found my way around :)
I use 1.6 sensitivity in-game, if i want to use this should I use 1.6 in-game and 1 in software or the other way around? thanks
Nevermind found my way around :)
Nevermind found my way around :)
"Offset (default 0):
Acceleration will not be applied until the mouse movement exceeds this velocity.
Negative values are supported, which has the effect of causing higher rates of
acceleration to happen at lower velocities"
...this velocity
velocity in what? m/s ? cm/360? pls help i am lost ;_;
"Offset (default 0):
Acceleration will not be applied until the mouse movement exceeds this velocity.
Negative values are supported, which has the effect of causing higher rates of
acceleration to happen at lower velocities"
...[b]this velocity[/b]
velocity in what? m/s ? cm/360? pls help i am lost ;_;
Acceleration will not be applied until the mouse movement exceeds this velocity.
Negative values are supported, which has the effect of causing higher rates of
acceleration to happen at lower velocities"
...[b]this velocity[/b]
velocity in what? m/s ? cm/360? pls help i am lost ;_;
soney"Offset (default 0):
Acceleration will not be applied until the mouse movement exceeds this velocity.
Negative values are supported, which has the effect of causing higher rates of
acceleration to happen at lower velocities"
...this velocity
velocity in what? m/s ? cm/360? pls help i am lost ;_;
I have trouble understanding the descriptions as well..
I think it's a sensitivity number? so acceleration will kick in once your cursor goes past the rate of movement which would be the offset value.
I don't use this since it seems to induce jerky motions during transitions.
[quote=soney]"Offset (default 0):
Acceleration will not be applied until the mouse movement exceeds this velocity.
Negative values are supported, which has the effect of causing higher rates of
acceleration to happen at lower velocities"
...[b]this velocity[/b]
velocity in what? m/s ? cm/360? pls help i am lost ;_;[/quote]
I have trouble understanding the descriptions as well..
I think it's a sensitivity number? so acceleration will kick in once your cursor goes past the rate of movement which would be the offset value.
I don't use this since it seems to induce jerky motions during transitions.
Acceleration will not be applied until the mouse movement exceeds this velocity.
Negative values are supported, which has the effect of causing higher rates of
acceleration to happen at lower velocities"
...[b]this velocity[/b]
velocity in what? m/s ? cm/360? pls help i am lost ;_;[/quote]
I have trouble understanding the descriptions as well..
I think it's a sensitivity number? so acceleration will kick in once your cursor goes past the rate of movement which would be the offset value.
I don't use this since it seems to induce jerky motions during transitions.
jp_soney"Offset (default 0):I have trouble understanding the descriptions as well..
Acceleration will not be applied until the mouse movement exceeds this velocity.
Negative values are supported, which has the effect of causing higher rates of
acceleration to happen at lower velocities"
...this velocity
velocity in what? m/s ? cm/360? pls help i am lost ;_;
I think it's a sensitivity number? so acceleration will kick in once your cursor goes past the rate of movement which would be the offset value.
I don't use this since it seems to induce jerky motions during transitions.
Trying to use a low sens while having the need to flick. No other settings seems to help with this
[quote=jp_][quote=soney]"Offset (default 0):
Acceleration will not be applied until the mouse movement exceeds this velocity.
Negative values are supported, which has the effect of causing higher rates of
acceleration to happen at lower velocities"
...[b]this velocity[/b]
velocity in what? m/s ? cm/360? pls help i am lost ;_;[/quote]
I have trouble understanding the descriptions as well..
I think it's a sensitivity number? so acceleration will kick in once your cursor goes past the rate of movement which would be the offset value.
I don't use this since it seems to induce jerky motions during transitions.[/quote]
Trying to use a low sens while having the need to flick. No other settings seems to help with this
Acceleration will not be applied until the mouse movement exceeds this velocity.
Negative values are supported, which has the effect of causing higher rates of
acceleration to happen at lower velocities"
...[b]this velocity[/b]
velocity in what? m/s ? cm/360? pls help i am lost ;_;[/quote]
I have trouble understanding the descriptions as well..
I think it's a sensitivity number? so acceleration will kick in once your cursor goes past the rate of movement which would be the offset value.
I don't use this since it seems to induce jerky motions during transitions.[/quote]
Trying to use a low sens while having the need to flick. No other settings seems to help with this
povohatOffset is counts per millisecond
So the range would be from 0 to MAX polling rate?
Because my G400's (and deathadder's) rates fluctuate quite a bit..
I'm using MouseRate to check and it shows random +1000hz spikes while moving the mouse below speeds that would normally register has 1000hz.
Does the driver account for this?
[quote=povohat]Offset is counts per millisecond[/quote]
So the range would be from 0 to MAX polling rate?
Because my G400's (and deathadder's) rates fluctuate quite a bit..
I'm using MouseRate to check and it shows random +1000hz spikes while moving the mouse below speeds that would normally register has 1000hz.
Does the driver account for this?
So the range would be from 0 to MAX polling rate?
Because my G400's (and deathadder's) rates fluctuate quite a bit..
I'm using MouseRate to check and it shows random +1000hz spikes while moving the mouse below speeds that would normally register has 1000hz.
Does the driver account for this?
By counts per millisecond I mean the total of the X/Y values that have been reported by the mouse. The range would be 0 to whatever the highest amount of counts you can produce from your mouse in 1ms. For example, this would be 0-256 in the case of the ir-led zowie mice at 500hz.
Polling rate fluctuations are handled probably as good as is possible. The driver knows how long it has been between updates and adjusts the speed calculation for acceleration accordingly. Source has been up for ages feel free to browse it, maybe it could be improved somehow
By counts per millisecond I mean the total of the X/Y values that have been reported by the mouse. The range would be 0 to whatever the highest amount of counts you can produce from your mouse in 1ms. For example, this would be 0-256 in the case of the ir-led zowie mice at 500hz.
Polling rate fluctuations are handled probably as good as is possible. The driver knows how long it has been between updates and adjusts the speed calculation for acceleration accordingly. Source has been up for ages feel free to browse it, maybe it could be improved somehow
Polling rate fluctuations are handled probably as good as is possible. The driver knows how long it has been between updates and adjusts the speed calculation for acceleration accordingly. Source has been up for ages feel free to browse it, maybe it could be improved somehow
Sorry for the necro-bump, but this driver is a formidable utility - can't hurt to have it on top again.
I'd like clarification as to how the sens cap works, because it seems whatever I set it to, my cursor just becomes slow as fuck or doesn't even move.
Edit: Also, if I set "Sensitivity" as "3.49" next time I open the driver it will say "349", missing the dot. Is this normal?
Edit2: If I want to stop using this, is it enough to use the update driver method to put my previous driver in it's place? Or will there be registry remainders?
Sorry for the necro-bump, but this driver is a formidable utility - can't hurt to have it on top again.
I'd like clarification as to how the sens cap works, because it seems whatever I set it to, my cursor just becomes slow as fuck or doesn't even move.
Edit: Also, if I set "Sensitivity" as "3.49" next time I open the driver it will say "349", missing the dot. Is this normal?
Edit2: If I want to stop using this, is it enough to use the update driver method to put my previous driver in it's place? Or will there be registry remainders?
I'd like clarification as to how the sens cap works, because it seems whatever I set it to, my cursor just becomes slow as fuck or doesn't even move.
Edit: Also, if I set "Sensitivity" as "3.49" next time I open the driver it will say "349", missing the dot. Is this normal?
Edit2: If I want to stop using this, is it enough to use the update driver method to put my previous driver in it's place? Or will there be registry remainders?
This driver got a little help in improvement with KovaaK from loadout.
just look at the video hektik, it explain everything.. in english :( burrin by rakz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KORL144_co8
Senscap is the limit of sensitivity i wanna get, with any moviment speed you wont pass this sensitivity.
But everyone, try KovaaK plugin for Qlacceldriver. its awesome because you can make the same accel in different mices/dpis/etc. At least the same feeling, to build a muscle memory in accel.
Cara, instala esse programa do kovak e lá vai ter gráficos que talvez vc entenda melhor.
This driver got a little help in improvement with KovaaK from loadout.
just look at the video hektik, it explain everything.. in english :( burrin by rakz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KORL144_co8
Senscap is the limit of sensitivity i wanna get, with any moviment speed you wont pass this sensitivity.
But everyone, try KovaaK plugin for Qlacceldriver. its awesome because you can make the same accel in different mices/dpis/etc. At least the same feeling, to build a muscle memory in accel.
Cara, instala esse programa do kovak e lá vai ter gráficos que talvez vc entenda melhor.
just look at the video hektik, it explain everything.. in english :( burrin by rakz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KORL144_co8
Senscap is the limit of sensitivity i wanna get, with any moviment speed you wont pass this sensitivity.
But everyone, try KovaaK plugin for Qlacceldriver. its awesome because you can make the same accel in different mices/dpis/etc. At least the same feeling, to build a muscle memory in accel.
Cara, instala esse programa do kovak e lá vai ter gráficos que talvez vc entenda melhor.
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