holy shit that made my day

this "controversy" is so fun for me because now the 6s community is also aware of the hilarity that is axiomatic

Mustardoverlord getting his payback

i never knew he was this much of a narcissistic arse hole that genuinely believes he knows everything.

OK, I act like a retard on the forums, but this guy makes me cry

;)

ur getting outplayed, axiom is a div 1 shitposter

idk if i saw someone pour 1.5k+ hours into a single class i wouldn't think they hacked. sniper class

Nobody

:)

i dunno....how many hours do you think lance armstrong spent cycling/preparing for cycling before resorting to cheating? what about barry bonds? mark mcgwire?

also, number of hours could create this aura of legitimacy that allows a person to hack.
i mean who knows -- there could be plenty of players who hack just enough to make playoffs, or just enough to make the next LAN. you'd never really know.

if there's anything we can agree on, it's that axiomatic is an an unnatural dip.

I think axiomatic would do good at politics at this point cause all i have seen from him is bullshit and him trying to justify his own bullshit with more bullshit.

Why did the UGC admins ask for Marisa's demos? What happened to burden of proof? Are they just humoring him?

This guy has the be joking?? Putting his "reputation" on the line and going all night long through her demos because he so desperately wants to see her get banned, that's almost sadistic lol

Did I hear him say hiding the hacks is another part of the game? lol
Nice shot marisa

they're... y'know... getting the proof? not banning her

i cant not be a bit suspicious of that amazing demoman headshot on lakeside, that near the end twitch thingy... cant know for sure though

this guy is pretty confident in explaining hacks

i don't know about those people, but generally the people who resort to cheating are really retarded and dont have the dedication to get to a high level in tf2 (there are exceptions obviously) in my eyes if you have the will to pour that many hours into a class then you actually care about legitimacy, and are decent at it.

14 pages in 1 day, damn, I didn't even know UGC had so many forum posters, let alone shitposters

They don't it's just him and harbleu calling each other shit

do people play highlander competitively?

Ok some disclaimers

1. I have not been a part of the UGC admin team for a LONG time (like over a year).
2. Things may have changed at UGC since I left
3. I'm not posting in any capacity with/for UGC.

I just want to explain how this kind of thing was dealt with when I was a member of their admin team. When you're running a league and somebody makes a "hackusation" the original demo provided is reviewed (it's usually an STV which is extremely unreliable for aiming bits, but it can give you a general idea of what happened in the match), and if anything there can even be loosely construed as "fishy" (such as a player on sniper getting a bagillion kills) the player's POVs are requested. I'm not sure if this particular hackusation was made via whatever guy's video or because they submitted a demo for review - usually it's required that they provide *something* that the team can look at in their own TF2.

Once it's elevated to a stage where POVs are requested the POVs are sent to a special review team who are anonymous, typically not admins (I don't think any members were admins when I was there), and are disinterested parties familiar with how various "hacks" work in the source engine. So shouting at any particular admin won't affect the process, and in general, no particular admin bias should come into play since the admins (at least when I was there) had no hand in the affair once the review team was handed the POVs.

Just because M4risa's POVs have been requested I wouldn't be particularly concerned if I were M4risa (unless she is actually hacking of course lol). With this guy posting these videos and likely having sent *something* for review, the admin team was likely forced to act in some way. I wouldn't take their inaction as a "political" type action - if the guy didn't submit anything that the team could independently review, then there's nothing to review and thus no POVs would have been requested.

When I was there *every* accusation of hacking (that was accompanied by a demo) was vetted first, and anything that wasn't just somebody wasting our time was passed to the review team - this happened at least like once a month.

I've used hacks, I've hidden hacks,

4:25 PM - dK Karl: I hacked on an alt to troll my friend arch LOL

The hacking sniper main is on the same team as the hacking heavy main. What a plot twist.I think I stumbled across the landfill.

to view more idiots https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySBmHo4MXyU

lolno

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LOL its because she panicked on the demo and clicked on accident while trying to flick.

also idk if ur watchign demo but that might have also contributed to it

people still hack in this game?

He probably got m4risa to give him the hacks.

Also sometimes when I play sniper on turbine people say that I am hacking but I am not so I think really this is a parable for the whole situation thank you.