Its just easier to make it about race where there's a pretty clear answer (don't be racist) than to ask questions like "do cops have too much power" or "in which situations is deadly force acceptable" where the answer is unclear and highly based on opinion.

if you had a way to magically make all guns on earth disappear would you do it

honest question

1)White Prosecutor has deep family ties in the police force (father killed by a black man)

2)Police force is extreme majority white and patrolling area is predominantly black

3)jury was majority white

4)little discussion on the changes that are needed in that community in regards to the relationship between the people and the police force

In no way is it certain that it is a race issue, but It's not unreasonable to think that it is.

No

Since the start of the human race, we been advancing our weapons. From picking up a rock and throwing it at someone to using a strong animal bone as a club. As a species we have always looked for a better weapon and we likely always will. If you took all the guns away, we would find something else.

Case in point, the UK. They took guns away. You know what happened? Gun crime dropped but other violent crimes rose.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-DJ-KA2WhhLo/UNZr8agpVqI/AAAAAAAAFH4/f6rrTVN7q6I/s1600/Screen+Shot+2012-12-22+at++Saturday,+December+22,+9.26+PM.png

Now back to the race war, leave guns out of it.

marxist where do you live/what were you doing to have a gun pulled on you twice??? story time with marxist please

it blows my mind that you've somehow reasoned yourself into supporting anything at all that makes killing easier

just like

think about that

hahaha ur dumb if you think murder rates in america wouldn't drop significantly if it got rid of its guns

no u see the data for a country of a completely different size and with a completely different mindset regarding firearms gives us an accurate picture of what would happen in america

if the homicide rate (per capita) in america were twice what it is in the UK post-handgun ban it would still be half as much as it is now

The point is that guns aren't what cause the homicide rate to be high. Take guns away and people will find another way to kill. Basically what SpaceCadet said but with actual evidence as it has actually happened.

the uk is so different culturally, economically, and geologically from america that im embarrassed for the person who posted that meme.

And there's actual evidence (in Australia, a country that has a much more similar history regarding firearms to ours) to the contrary as well.

i'm pretty sure i'd rather get shot to death than stabbed.

This is the reason we invented guns people. Wake up you tree hugging hippies.

Well I'd rather get stabbed to death than be flattened by a steam roller.

Just sayin'

Correlation doesn't necessarily equate to causation. You can't just say, "well there were more homicides after guns were banned, therefore guns don't reduce homicides." There's no way to tell from a simple graph whether there are other factors playing in.

Well, after they banned handguns, homicide rate increased. If another factor changed and caused the higher murder rates, you'd be right. But, there actually were no other factors that can reasonably explain the increase, so the banning of firearms makes the most sense.

thats 1/4
also anyone remember the Vancouver riots when the Canucks didn't win the stanley cup
pretty laughable stuff that causes riots compared to a kid dying

pls demonstrate to me where on the human body it is both safe AND effective to shoot someone

u do realize the point of guns is to kill ppl right?
rofl trying to ban guns
pls try to take guns out of gang neighborhoods, im sure everyone is gonna be fine waiting for the cops when dipshit breaks into a house and waves a 44 around

You could just make a convincing argument for why violence is morally wrong and then he'd be like "damn, I never thought of it like that" and leave a changed man.

Darren Wilson is also 6'4 and 210 lbs. Not sure if that's relevant, he sure as hell wouldn't automatically been taken down by Brown.

I advise that everyone who actually cares about the legitimacy of Darren Wilson actually read the transcript of his testimony. It's extremely formulated and strange - and seems to only paint Brown as this hyper -belligerent criminal and Wilson as a 'perfect' cop.

http://i.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2014/images/11/24/darren-wilson-testimony-snippet.pdf

He basically lied with multiple inconsistencies:

1) Says he was aware of the robbery that MB committed /(Ferguson police chief back in august completely refutes this)

2) Says MB was wearing a black shirt /(Bob McCulloch says he was wearing a white shirt)

3) Says he politely asked the boys to get on the sidewalk /(Dorian Johnson, MB's friend said that he had told them to 'get the fuck on the sidewalk')

4) Says that MB said "fuck what you have to say" /(very robotic and strange thing to say, also Dorian Johnson again, says that he did all of the talking and MB said nothing for majority of the time until the altercation started)

5) Says he noticed the two boys from the stealing - why he confronted them a second time /(once again, it's been confirmed that he had no knowledge of the robbery, also Dorian Johnson was not a part of the police dispatch so he couldn't possibly have recognized him)

6) Tells Brown to 'come here for a minute' Brown responds 'what the fuck are you going to do about it?" /(response does not fit the call - also once again Dorian Johnson says that Brown has said nothing up to this point)

7) Says Brown had cigarillos in his right hand/(Brown then proceeded to punch him with his right hand? apparently no evidence of cigarillos or cigarillo residue in his car afterwards, where Wilson said he was getting hit)

8)His whole story is that he pulls up to Brown (who had just shoplifted) and his friend, Brown tells him to fuck off, he rolls back up because he notices the cigarillos, He opens his door, Brown shuts it, and punches him through his window(???) then tells his friend to 'hold these(cigs)' and then proceeds to assault Wilson.

Extremely bizarre as he just robbed a store and it would probably be in his best interest to keep a low profile. Even more bizarre to attack a cop out of random because he told you to get on the sidewalk? Then hand your cigs to your friend and proceed to beat him up through a window and enter his car?

9) here's the good part: He says that he's in the car with Brown (allegedly assaulting him) so he pulls out his gun and points it at him. What does Brown apparently say according to Wilson.
"You're too much of a pussy to shoot me"

ok

10) apparently after chasing him, Brown turns around, reaches into his pants and charges towards Wilson. He shoots multiple shots and apparently he hit him at least once /(it appears that MB is a fucking bear because I don't remember the last time someone gets shot and keeps running - also, Brown was unarmed, why would he reach into his pocket?)

i always thought it'd be pretty badass if guns did not exist and warfare was still fought with swords and shields. modern day technology/medicine/everything else, but fought with swords game of thrones style. i don't care much for horses, we can keep automobiles.

That would be pretty cool if guns were banned, because then people would resort to using rocket launchers and grenade launchers. That way there would be a lot more rocket jumps and air shots.

Nope. Jeez, haven't you seen the Monkey Paw in Simpsons Treehouse of Horror II? I bet you're one of them.

Guns are basically the "solution" for overcoming a power inequality. A sword, club, sickle, longbow, etc. They all take skill and physical power to use. A gun requires minimal physical strength and skill to operate on a basic level but one of the greatest forces a person can personally wield. I believe the gun is the staple of human technological advancement. Even if you believe it's "evil", I think it's an inevitable product of technological advancement. Besides if we make all the stapleguns and nailguns and glueguns disappear we'd lose out on time and money in furniture/wood fields. Why would you be against economic efficiency? What did craftsmen do to you?

Btw you should instead of saying "gun" say "firearms" and possibly "non-historical" and stuff like that. Honestly I hate that this thread has devolved into a gun violence thread because of your tumblr post, but it's already done. I'm fine with guns, even if they make the world a more dangerous place. I'd rather see corruption and retarded though processes disappear before guns do. Heck, why not just remove the homicidal nature from humans instead of guns? I don't get the point of hypotheticals like these where you pick a random smaller issue instead of the biggest issue(s).

If every household/business/whatever had a gun, you would think twice about robbing it. You don't rob a store/house in Texas for a reason, you'll get shot by citizens within a minute.

people be savage!

Owl, you're a tumblr post.

What evidence is that? I'm seeing that the homicide rate between 1996 (when the Australia gun buyback program was instituted) and 2008 the homicide rate went down 20.34 percent while the United States' homicide rate has gone down 27 percent in the same time frame. Not to mention that in the US the gun ownership rates have been driven up while homicide rates driven down. The Australian homicide rate actually went up 9% from 1996 to 1999 while the US' has only declined. Once again, somethings telling me that guns aren't the reason nor the cause for the homicide rate. Take a look at Chicago, often referred to as "Chi-raq", recently started granting concealed carry permits and the crime rates have dropped along with the homicide rate.

i remember hearing a few weeks ago that people were celebrating in Chicago because there were no reported murders within 36 hours