I'm begging for help with a new website. Some of you may know that I've worked on creating a rating system for TF2 balancing and ranking as detailed here, and despite my titanic efforts implementation in lobby services is basically nil and not coming any time soon, so because zoob is so godlike and makes all the data necessary available to everyone I'm going to do it myself, and maybe if it's available as a web service it might get used.
But I don't really want to publish precise ranking figures because they expose the system more to being gamed, like CS I'd rather hide these behind rank names like these:
http://www.pro-hl.com/images/prohl/csgo_ranks.jpg
And because I have no imagination I'm throwing it open to you. What rank names do you want to see? Do we just need a tier number instead of a name?
This should be ready in a matter of weeks so if you want to be at the top of the ranks you need to get your try-hard hats on and start crushing faces at TF2Center or TF2Pickup.
I'm begging for help with a new website. Some of you may know that I've worked on creating a rating system for TF2 balancing and ranking [url=http://www.vanillatf2.org/2014/08/zen-and-the-art-of-balancing-a-lobby/]as detailed here[/url], and despite my titanic efforts implementation in lobby services is basically nil and not coming any time soon, so because zoob is so godlike and makes all the data necessary available to everyone I'm going to do it myself, and maybe if it's available as a web service it might get used.
But I don't really want to publish precise ranking figures because they expose the system more to being gamed, like CS I'd rather hide these behind rank names like these: [img]http://www.pro-hl.com/images/prohl/csgo_ranks.jpg[/img]
And because I have no imagination I'm throwing it open to you. [b]What rank names do you want to see? Do we just need a tier number instead of a name?[/b]
This should be ready in a matter of weeks so if you want to be at the top of the ranks you need to get your try-hard hats on and start crushing faces at TF2Center or TF2Pickup.
Global Balloonicorn as truktruk said.
Global Balloonicorn as truktruk said.
Just use the same ranks as in csgo. Confuse everyone so that when they talk about a rank, they'll ask: csgo or tf2? Ohhhh there is competitive tf2? Ohhhhhhh...
/end random stupid idea from tired self
Just use the same ranks as in csgo. Confuse everyone so that when they talk about a rank, they'll ask: csgo or tf2? Ohhhh there is competitive tf2? Ohhhhhhh...
/end random stupid idea from tired self
nataponJust use the same ranks as in csgo. Confuse everyone so that when they talk about a rank, they'll ask: csgo or tf2? Ohhhh there is competitive tf2? Ohhhhhhh...
/end random stupid idea from tired self
The actual response from 90% of people in that situation: "lmao comp tf2"
[quote=natapon]Just use the same ranks as in csgo. Confuse everyone so that when they talk about a rank, they'll ask: csgo or tf2? Ohhhh there is competitive tf2? Ohhhhhhh...
/end random stupid idea from tired self[/quote]
The actual response from 90% of people in that situation: "lmao comp tf2"
Mr_OwlnataponJust use the same ranks as in csgo. Confuse everyone so that when they talk about a rank, they'll ask: csgo or tf2? Ohhhh there is competitive tf2? Ohhhhhhh...
/end random stupid idea from tired self
The actual response from 90% of people in that situation: "lmao comp tf2"
then tell them to bring it on ;)
the key is to get them to talk about it and further expand the idea of comp tf
[quote=Mr_Owl][quote=natapon]Just use the same ranks as in csgo. Confuse everyone so that when they talk about a rank, they'll ask: csgo or tf2? Ohhhh there is competitive tf2? Ohhhhhhh...
/end random stupid idea from tired self[/quote]
The actual response from 90% of people in that situation: "lmao comp tf2"[/quote]
then tell them to bring it on ;)
the key is to get them to talk about it and further expand the idea of comp tf
Use slightly altered strange levels
Use slightly altered strange levels
name it after increasingly dumb unlocks, starting with soda popper, lock n load, all the way up to Wrangler Elite
name it after increasingly dumb unlocks, starting with soda popper, lock n load, all the way up to Wrangler Elite
I get where you're coming from with using the CS:GO ranks and it was a creative idea. But they really just don't fit TF2 (anything in the 2nd and 3rd tier at least).
I think it's just as important to come up with a system that is unique to our game. One that we can identify with. One that we can get hyped about and spread it to others.
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BonafideUse slightly altered strange levels
I get where you're coming from with using the CS:GO ranks and it was a creative idea. But they really just don't fit TF2 (anything in the 2nd and 3rd tier at least).
I think it's just as important to come up with a system that is unique to our game. One that we can identify with. One that we can get hyped about and spread it to others.
Edit:
Ninja'd with an actually amazing idea
[quote=Bonafide]Use slightly altered strange levels[/quote]
BonafideUse slightly altered strange levels
Now this is good thinking
[quote=Bonafide]Use slightly altered strange levels[/quote]
Now this is good thinking
smoboname it after increasingly dumb unlocks, starting with soda popper, lock n load, all the way up to Wrangler Elite
I think the goal is for people to take the game more seriously, but fuck it, that sounds hype.
[quote=smobo]name it after increasingly dumb unlocks, starting with soda popper, lock n load, all the way up to Wrangler Elite[/quote]
I think the goal is for people to take the game more seriously, but fuck it, that sounds hype.
Just slighltly alter them to match TF2 realm and have people immediately understand what they mean.
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I'm out of other ideas for now
Just slighltly alter them to match TF2 realm and have people immediately understand what they mean.
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I'm out of other ideas for now
CHERRYJust slighltly alter them to match TF2 realm and have people immediately understand what they mean.
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I'm out of other ideas for now
Piggybacking off of this, you could use names similar to the tf2 steam badges by using a play on words with a map or word that is a staple of competitive tf2.
For example, control point commando, bad man of the badlands, etc
[quote=CHERRY]Just slighltly alter them to match TF2 realm and have people immediately understand what they mean.
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I'm out of other ideas for now[/quote]
Piggybacking off of this, you could use names similar to the tf2 steam badges by using a play on words with a map or word that is a staple of competitive tf2.
For example, control point commando, bad man of the badlands, etc
There are 18 CS:GO ranks, so what you do, is you take random words from the tf2 universe and paste them behind these 18 strange ranks, removed hale's own and strange since they didn't really fit.
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1 Unremarkable
2 Scarcely Lethal
3 Mildly Menacing
4 Somewhat Threatening
5 Uncharitable
6 Notably Dangerous
7 Sufficiently Lethal
8 Truly Feared
9 Spectacularly Lethal
10 Gore-Spattered
11 Wicked Nasty
12 Positively Inhumane
13 Totally Ordinary
14 Face-Melting
15 Rage-Inducing
16 Server-Clearing
17 Legendary
18 Australian
There are 18 CS:GO ranks, so what you do, is you take random words from the tf2 universe and paste them behind these 18 strange ranks, removed hale's own and strange since they didn't really fit.
[spoiler]1 Unremarkable
2 Scarcely Lethal
3 Mildly Menacing
4 Somewhat Threatening
5 Uncharitable
6 Notably Dangerous
7 Sufficiently Lethal
8 Truly Feared
9 Spectacularly Lethal
10 Gore-Spattered
11 Wicked Nasty
12 Positively Inhumane
13 Totally Ordinary
14 Face-Melting
15 Rage-Inducing
16 Server-Clearing
17 Legendary
18 Australian[/spoiler]
CommanderCallum'Hale's Own Mercenary'
I'd say that Australian is better, since tf2 is centered a lot around australia, and could replace global
[quote=CommanderCallum]'Hale's Own Mercenary'[/quote]
I'd say that Australian is better, since tf2 is centered a lot around australia, and could replace global
I don't think Strange ranks fit as well for ranking players. I'd prefer something more like CSGO where you can estimate the rank position just from the name, less rank names but appended with numbers (Something like Australium I, Australium II, ... Australium Master), but I tried. alliterations inc
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2 Scarcely Lethal Slugger
3 Mildly Menacing Mercenary
4 Somewhat Threatening Troublemaker
7 Sufficiently Lethal Scrapper
8 Truly Feared Trooper
10 Gore-Spattered Gunner
11 Wicked Nasty Warrior
12 Positively Inhumane Private
14 Face-Melting Fighter
15 Rage-Inducing Recruit
16 Server-Clearing Soldier
18 Australian Assailant
If you want to go with the Strange ranks, you might want to replace "Totally Ordinary", unless you plan to make it a rank available only if you land exactly on one certain value.
I don't think Strange ranks fit as well for ranking players. I'd prefer something more like CSGO where you can estimate the rank position just from the name, less rank names but appended with numbers (Something like Australium I, Australium II, ... Australium Master), but I tried. alliterations inc
[spoiler]2 Scarcely Lethal [b]Slugger[/b]
3 Mildly Menacing [b]Mercenary[/b]
4 Somewhat Threatening [b]Troublemaker[/b]
7 Sufficiently Lethal [b]Scrapper[/b]
8 Truly Feared [b]Trooper[/b]
10 Gore-Spattered [b]Gunner[/b]
11 Wicked Nasty [b]Warrior[/b]
12 Positively Inhumane [b]Private[/b]
14 Face-Melting [b]Fighter[/b]
15 Rage-Inducing [b]Recruit[/b]
16 Server-Clearing [b]Soldier[/b]
18 Australian [b]Assailant[/b][/spoiler]
If you want to go with the Strange ranks, you might want to replace "Totally Ordinary", unless you plan to make it a rank available only if you land exactly on one certain value.
BonafideUse slightly altered strange levels
Yes, please.
[quote=Bonafide]Use slightly altered strange levels[/quote]
Yes, please.
Bonafide1 Unremarkable
2 Scarcely Lethal
3 Mildly Menacing
4 Somewhat Threatening
5 Uncharitable
6 Notably Dangerous
7 Sufficiently Lethal
8 Truly Feared
9 Spectacularly Lethal
10 Gore-Spattered
11 Wicked Nasty
12 Positively Inhumane
13 Totally Ordinary
14 Face-Melting
15 Rage-Inducing
16 Server-Clearing
17 Legendary
18 Australian
I like it.
[quote=Bonafide]1 Unremarkable
2 Scarcely Lethal
3 Mildly Menacing
4 Somewhat Threatening
5 Uncharitable
6 Notably Dangerous
7 Sufficiently Lethal
8 Truly Feared
9 Spectacularly Lethal
10 Gore-Spattered
11 Wicked Nasty
12 Positively Inhumane
13 Totally Ordinary
14 Face-Melting
15 Rage-Inducing
16 Server-Clearing
17 Legendary
18 Australian[/quote]
I like it.
SuyoI don't think Strange ranks fit as well for ranking players, but I tried. alliterations inc Show Content
2 Scarcely Lethal Slugger
3 Mildly Menacing Mercenary
4 Somewhat Threatening Troublemaker
7 Sufficiently Lethal Scrapper
8 Truly Feared Trooper
10 Gore-Spattered Gunner
11 Wicked Nasty Warrior
12 Positively Inhumane Private
14 Face-Melting Fighter
15 Rage-Inducing Recruit
16 Server-Clearing Soldier
18 Australian Assailant
If you want to go with the Strange ranks, you might want to replace "Totally Ordinary", unless you plan to make it a rank available only if you land exactly on one certain value.
I agree, I forgot about the 999 rank, but on the other end it's tf2, so it could be a fun gimmick
[quote=Suyo]I don't think Strange ranks fit as well for ranking players, but I tried. alliterations inc
[spoiler]2 Scarcely Lethal [b]Slugger[/b]
3 Mildly Menacing [b]Mercenary[/b]
4 Somewhat Threatening [b]Troublemaker[/b]
7 Sufficiently Lethal [b]Scrapper[/b]
8 Truly Feared [b]Trooper[/b]
10 Gore-Spattered [b]Gunner[/b]
11 Wicked Nasty [b]Warrior[/b]
12 Positively Inhumane [b]Private[/b]
14 Face-Melting [b]Fighter[/b]
15 Rage-Inducing [b]Recruit[/b]
16 Server-Clearing [b]Soldier[/b]
18 Australian [b]Assailant[/b][/spoiler]
If you want to go with the Strange ranks, you might want to replace "Totally Ordinary", unless you plan to make it a rank available only if you land exactly on one certain value.[/quote]
I agree, I forgot about the 999 rank, but on the other end it's tf2, so it could be a fun gimmick
EdLolingtonCHERRYJust slighltly alter them to match TF2 realm and have people immediately understand what they mean.
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I'm out of other ideas for now
Piggybacking off of this, you could use names similar to the tf2 steam badges by using a play on words with a map or word that is a staple of competitive tf2.
For example, control point commando, bad man of the badlands, etc
This is the greatest idea ever especially for later badges.
[quote=EdLolington][quote=CHERRY]Just slighltly alter them to match TF2 realm and have people immediately understand what they mean.
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I'm out of other ideas for now[/quote]
Piggybacking off of this, you could use names similar to the tf2 steam badges by using a play on words with a map or word that is a staple of competitive tf2.
For example, control point commando, bad man of the badlands, etc[/quote]
This is the greatest idea ever especially for later badges.
Perhaps we could base the rank names around the join date badges.
For example:
Mercenary > Soldier of Fortune > Grizzled Veteran > Primeval Warrior
Perhaps we could base the rank names around the join date badges.
For example:
Mercenary > Soldier of Fortune > Grizzled Veteran > Primeval Warrior
TwistedPerhaps we could base the rank names around the join date badges.
For example:
Mercenary > Soldier of Fortune > Grizzled Veteran > Primeval Warrior
I like this one, much more easier to understand. But you need to add some ranks in the middle. Or you can mix both, and using csgo logic of 3-5 levels for each "step", ex:
Mercenary Ranks
1 Unremarkable Mercenary
2 Scarcely Lethal Mercenary
3 Mildly Menacing Mercenary
4 Somewhat Threatening Mercenary
Soldier Ranks
5 Uncharitable Soldier
6 Notably Dangerous Soldier
7 Sufficiently Lethal Soldier
8 Truly Feared Soldier
Grizzled Veteran Ranks
9 Spectacularly Lethal Grizzled Veteran
10 Gore-Spattered Grizzled Veteran
11 Wicked Nasty Grizzled Veteran
12 Positively Inhumane Grizzled Veteran
Primeval Warrior Ranks
13 Totally Ordinary Primeval Warrior
14 Face-Melting Primeval Warrior
15 Rage-Inducing Primeval Warrior
16 Server-Clearing Primeval Warrior
17 Legendary Primeval Warrior
Australian
18 Australian
Is this being implemented on tf2pickup? Cant wait :D
[quote=Twisted]Perhaps we could base the rank names around the join date badges.
For example:
Mercenary > Soldier of Fortune > Grizzled Veteran > Primeval Warrior[/quote]
I like this one, much more easier to understand. But you need to add some ranks in the middle. Or you can mix both, and using csgo logic of 3-5 levels for each "step", ex:
[b]
Mercenary Ranks[/b]
1 Unremarkable Mercenary
2 Scarcely Lethal Mercenary
3 Mildly Menacing Mercenary
4 Somewhat Threatening Mercenary
[b]Soldier Ranks[/b]
5 Uncharitable Soldier
6 Notably Dangerous Soldier
7 Sufficiently Lethal Soldier
8 Truly Feared Soldier
[b]Grizzled Veteran Ranks[/b]
9 Spectacularly Lethal Grizzled Veteran
10 Gore-Spattered Grizzled Veteran
11 Wicked Nasty Grizzled Veteran
12 Positively Inhumane Grizzled Veteran
[b]Primeval Warrior Ranks[/b]
13 Totally Ordinary Primeval Warrior
14 Face-Melting Primeval Warrior
15 Rage-Inducing Primeval Warrior
16 Server-Clearing Primeval Warrior
17 Legendary Primeval Warrior
[b]Australian[/b]
18 Australian
Is this being implemented on tf2pickup? Cant wait :D
KanecoTwistedPerhaps we could base the rank names around the join date badges.
For example:
Mercenary > Soldier of Fortune > Grizzled Veteran > Primeval Warrior
I like this one, much more easier to understand. But you need to add some ranks in the middle. Or you can mix both,ex, and using csgo logic of 3-5 levels for each "step":
1 Unremarkable Mercenary
2 Scarcely Lethal Mercenary
3 Mildly Menacing Mercenary
4 Somewhat Threatening Mercenary
5 Uncharitable Soldier
6 Notably Dangerous Soldier
7 Sufficiently Lethal Soldier
8 Truly Feared Soldier
9 Spectacularly Lethal Grizzled Veteran
10 Gore-Spattered Grizzled Veteran
11 Wicked Nasty Grizzled Veteran
12 Positively Inhumane Grizzled Veteran
13 Totally Ordinary Primeval Warrior
14 Face-Melting Primeval Warrior
15 Rage-Inducing Primeval Warrior
16 Server-Clearing Primeval Warrior
17 Legendary Primeval Warrior
18 Australian
Is this being implemented on tf2pickup? Cant wait :D
This is probably the best of both ideas :D
[quote=Kaneco][quote=Twisted]Perhaps we could base the rank names around the join date badges.
For example:
Mercenary > Soldier of Fortune > Grizzled Veteran > Primeval Warrior[/quote]
I like this one, much more easier to understand. But you need to add some ranks in the middle. Or you can mix both,ex, and using csgo logic of 3-5 levels for each "step":
1 Unremarkable Mercenary
2 Scarcely Lethal Mercenary
3 Mildly Menacing Mercenary
4 Somewhat Threatening Mercenary
5 Uncharitable Soldier
6 Notably Dangerous Soldier
7 Sufficiently Lethal Soldier
8 Truly Feared Soldier
9 Spectacularly Lethal Grizzled Veteran
10 Gore-Spattered Grizzled Veteran
11 Wicked Nasty Grizzled Veteran
12 Positively Inhumane Grizzled Veteran
13 Totally Ordinary Primeval Warrior
14 Face-Melting Primeval Warrior
15 Rage-Inducing Primeval Warrior
16 Server-Clearing Primeval Warrior
17 Legendary Primeval Warrior
18 Australian
Is this being implemented on tf2pickup? Cant wait :D[/quote]
This is probably the best of both ideas :D
KanecoIs this being implemented on tf2pickup? Cant wait :D
Is tf2 pickup going to have a different skill rating than tf2center? Cant wait for players to dick around on one site, then go to the other site for "real" games.
[quote=Kaneco]Is this being implemented on tf2pickup? Cant wait :D[/quote]
Is tf2 pickup going to have a different skill rating than tf2center? Cant wait for players to dick around on one site, then go to the other site for "real" games.
RadmanKanecoIs this being implemented on tf2pickup? Cant wait :D
Is tf2 pickup going to have a different skill rating than tf2center? Cant wait for players to dick around on one site, then go to the other site for "real" games.
As far as I know tf2pickup doesn't have any association with tf2center and we at tf2pickup already have an internal ranking system also developed by Jon and our devs a while ago, but it's not public. I reckon this ranking would be independent for both sites. Doesn't make any sense to use the same rank if there are not even the same skill restrictions or rules (ie mumble and communication is always mandatory, etc.. for tf2pickup)
[quote=Radman][quote=Kaneco]Is this being implemented on tf2pickup? Cant wait :D[/quote]
Is tf2 pickup going to have a different skill rating than tf2center? Cant wait for players to dick around on one site, then go to the other site for "real" games.[/quote]
As far as I know tf2pickup doesn't have any association with tf2center and we at tf2pickup already have an internal ranking system also developed by Jon and our devs a while ago, but it's not public. I reckon this ranking would be independent for both sites. Doesn't make any sense to use the same rank if there are not even the same skill restrictions or rules (ie mumble and communication is always mandatory, etc.. for tf2pickup)
TwistedPerhaps we could base the rank names around the join date badges.
For example:
Mercenary > Soldier of Fortune > Grizzled Veteran > Primeval Warrior
I like this idea and whoever had the levels idea, im not a big fan of the strange names in general, i think theyre kinda meh
some/all combinations below:
Mercenary I
Mercenary II
Mercenary III
Mercenary IV
Mercenary Captain
Soldier of Fortune I
SoF II
SoF III
SoF iV
SoF captain/elite/master/commander
Grizzled Veteran
Grizzled Veteran Elite
Grizzled Veteran Master
Grizzled Veteran Commander
Primeval Warrior
Primeval Warrior II
Primeval Warrior III
Primeval Warrior IV
Primeval Warrior Elite
Primeval Warrior Master
Primeval Warrior Commander
[quote=Twisted]Perhaps we could base the rank names around the join date badges.
For example:
Mercenary > Soldier of Fortune > Grizzled Veteran > Primeval Warrior[/quote]
I like this idea and whoever had the levels idea, im not a big fan of the strange names in general, i think theyre kinda meh
some/all combinations below:
Mercenary I
Mercenary II
Mercenary III
Mercenary IV
Mercenary Captain
Soldier of Fortune I
SoF II
SoF III
SoF iV
SoF captain/elite/master/commander
Grizzled Veteran
Grizzled Veteran Elite
Grizzled Veteran Master
Grizzled Veteran Commander
Primeval Warrior
Primeval Warrior II
Primeval Warrior III
Primeval Warrior IV
Primeval Warrior Elite
Primeval Warrior Master
Primeval Warrior Commander
KanecoRadmanKanecoIs this being implemented on tf2pickup? Cant wait :D
Is tf2 pickup going to have a different skill rating than tf2center? Cant wait for players to dick around on one site, then go to the other site for "real" games.
As far as I know tf2pickup doesn't have any association with tf2center and we at tf2pickup already have an internal ranking system also developed by Jon and our devs a while ago, but it's not public. I reckon this ranking would be independent for both sites. Doesn't make any sense to use the same rank if there are not even the same skill restrictions or rules (ie mumble and communication is always mandatory, etc.. for tf2pickup)
Initially it was going to be separate, not sure how it is right now, but I think it'll be the same for all matches just basing on logs.
[quote=Kaneco][quote=Radman][quote=Kaneco]Is this being implemented on tf2pickup? Cant wait :D[/quote]
Is tf2 pickup going to have a different skill rating than tf2center? Cant wait for players to dick around on one site, then go to the other site for "real" games.[/quote]
As far as I know tf2pickup doesn't have any association with tf2center and we at tf2pickup already have an internal ranking system also developed by Jon and our devs a while ago, but it's not public. I reckon this ranking would be independent for both sites. Doesn't make any sense to use the same rank if there are not even the same skill restrictions or rules (ie mumble and communication is always mandatory, etc.. for tf2pickup)[/quote]
Initially it was going to be separate, not sure how it is right now, but I think it'll be the same for all matches just basing on logs.
1 Spycrab1
2 Spycrab2
3 Spycarb3
4 Spycrab4
5 Pinkie Pyro
6 Scooty Dash
7 Friendly Potis Heavy
8 Youthful Yiffer
9 Servant of Baal Adramelch, son and murderer of Sennacherib
10 Servant of Alastor the entity of possesion
11 Servant of Kroni, primordial manifestation of evil
12 Servant of Lucifuge, the one who flee the light of goodness
13 Servant of Asmodeus the lustful
14 Servant of Belphegor the gluttonous
15 Servant of Abaddon the sloth
16 Servant of Sathanus, bringer of wrath
17 Servant of Belzebub the envious
18 Servant of Lucifer
1 Spycrab1
2 Spycrab2
3 Spycarb3
4 Spycrab4
5 Pinkie Pyro
6 Scooty Dash
7 Friendly Potis Heavy
8 Youthful Yiffer
9 Servant of Baal Adramelch, son and murderer of Sennacherib
10 Servant of Alastor the entity of possesion
11 Servant of Kroni, primordial manifestation of evil
12 Servant of Lucifuge, the one who flee the light of goodness
13 Servant of Asmodeus the lustful
14 Servant of Belphegor the gluttonous
15 Servant of Abaddon the sloth
16 Servant of Sathanus, bringer of wrath
17 Servant of Belzebub the envious
18 Servant of Lucifer
Are you sure you want 12 y/o kids to be known in TF2 as Youthful Yiffers? (I highly suggest you people to google what the word "yiffer" means)
Are you sure you want 12 y/o kids to be known in TF2 as Youthful Yiffers? (I highly suggest you people to google what the word "yiffer" means)