The Trickshotter sniper:
+Starts fully charged
+Minicrits when unscoped
-Charge decreases extremely quickly (2-3 seconds?)
-No damage when uncharged
-No bodyshots

shotgun for medic
+ Dealing damage builds up a crit heal charge
+ Crit heal charge makes your heals be crit heals and is spent by being used (but not by maintaining overheal)
* Crit heal charge can be used even if it's not maxed and has nothing to do with ubercharge
* Small magazine, low ammo, low damage, not a clip-reload (reasonably worse weapon than even the Overdose)

at least you posted a qwtf video after saying "original TF"

most people don't even manage to do that

I want a pistol that's super accurate for like 3-5 shots then gets really useless very quickly. Then it finally has a role that can't be done better by the scatter...

Maybe something like the shock rifle from unreal tournament would be cool.

These are somehow worse than most of the stuff suggested on SPUF.

a scout secondary that isint a random spread piece of garbage, but thats just probably me and my shit aim with the damn thing

Winger buff?

Yeah I know I posted these while drunk.might be a dumb excuse but it's true. il think of better ideas that are not shit like those ones i said earlier.

I don't think u can come back after that post. Everyone will remember you as the guy who made the shitty post in the weapons thread. Rest in peace fellow no nerd star compadre.

For some reason I find everything zaloh posts incredibly irritating and obnoxious whether it was meant to be or not

Instead of new unlocks added onto the plethora of current unlocks (which so happen to be either shit or broken in some way compared to stock), unlocks should get the "Soda Popper treatment" except not be some obnoxious mechanic that appeases the general 14 year old pub player.

Example:
Loch-n-Load
+25% faster projectile speed
-50% clip size
Bouncy Rollerz

This would totally work. 20 bullets per mag and 12 dmg melee range -> 5 at max

to people saying LG wouldn't work... a shotgun is still 10x better vs a decent scout as a soldier than even an LG ripped straight from quake would be

It's like comparing apples and oranges though. If scouts pistol had nospread (lg) then he could just stay mid-far distance and track. Whereas in close quarters, a shotgun would definitely reign supreme.

widowmaker/something similar for scout as long as we're stealing ideas from quake
you'll never have to reload, but you'll take damage if you dont do enough damage to your opponent or something like that

some sort of secondary for scout where if u switch to it you instantly stop taking sentry dmg but it does nothing else

but only when it is out, like the wingers jump buff or something?

bonk?

I think he means a bonk nerf, dont take damage from sentry, but the engy could still kill you, allowing you to shoot with it would actually give scouts a shot at destroying sentries... not a terrible idea tbh

Why do sentries even exist?

Someone a while ago had an idea for a projectile for the spy, that would make the spy swap places with an enemy player on successful back hit. It's potentially extremely strong, but really hard to pull off at the same time.

Its an awful idea. The whole point of a sentry is that it denies area until a heavy class is forced to deal with it - essentially scout's hard counter on lasts.

What is the point of hard countering any class on last points? I thought people on here hated getting hard countered by class or loadout selection.

The point is, if scout had this weapon engineer would become much less useful on lasts.

Anyhow, I can't think of a reason that a scout would need this weapon over bonk, it'd really just be a crutch for scouts who can't resist +forward. Besides if a scout for some reason needs to deal with a sentry alone he can always pistol it from out of range.

i always remember watching meet the spy and seeing him slide the sapper to sap the sentry. thought that could be a cool right click attack for some kind of new sapper.

the idea behind the weapon is that you need to have it out (like the winger) and unlike bonk it's a passive attribute (ie no need to stand still to activate it)

I could see banning it in 6s but I think itd be cool in hl to deal with minisentries

i concur, 6s everything(almost) gets banned anyway

Fine! I'm going then bye all i know i make retarded post's but i'm trying my best not to be annoying nor to be obnoxious i'm trying to be a normal person! Do any of you realize that there's still a person behind the screen that has feelings? I Can't even be bothered to continue this post but next time you comment think about what i just said. Now im gone. Bye!

I said lower damage, lower splash, and reverse falloff. Speed is the same. idk how that = dh

thank you

it happens to all of us but please