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Concerns about Flares that Care
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#61
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Are you actually going to leave or keep posting?

Are you actually going to leave or keep posting?
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#62
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NastybutlerSome of you know my reputation. This now has MY attention.

Who are you? Stop grandstanding idiot.

[quote=Nastybutler]
Some of you know my reputation. This now has MY attention.[/quote]

Who are you? Stop grandstanding idiot.
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#63
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i mean i personally just skimmed thru the OPs post and read all the hatred post towards snoven

but i mean this is what you guys kinda get since you have a stream/charity event that has a pyro as the advertised class, plus the name "Flares That Care".

i mean i personally just skimmed thru the OPs post and read all the hatred post towards snoven

but i mean this is what you guys kinda get since you have a stream/charity event that has a pyro as the advertised class, plus the name "Flares That Care".
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#64
5 Frags +

like i predicted, snoven will just be leaving with his stolen items..
at this point, i doubt i'd even be surprised if he's taken a part of the donations that have gone to "Flares that Care", via that yellow donate button on the website.

anyway: if anyone still trusts you, snoven, they are out of their minds.
you're pathetic, and full of shit.

like i predicted, snoven will just be leaving with his stolen items..
at this point, i doubt i'd even be surprised if he's taken a part of the donations that have gone to "Flares that Care", via that yellow donate button on the website.

anyway: if anyone still trusts you, snoven, they are out of their minds.
you're pathetic, and full of shit.
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#65
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NastybutlerNastybutler, Admin on the ReSurfed network. We (as a network) welcome charity events such as these, (FtC, ToTH...and whoever else comes to us) with arms wide open, but as I see fit, if things like this do manage to turn up, ReSurfed will always come first in my eyes. I, personally, will not take sides on any matter that turns up, only the side of the network we spent the last year building and trying to perfect to keep a base community active within the confines of TF2. Although I do not speak for the rest of the staff of ReSurfed, as they all have their own opinions on the matter; I fully trust they make rightful decisions upon imposing situations. If something does manage to turn up, it will be dealt with accordingly. Likewise, I do hope this is all just petty hearsay and things will turn out just fine.

Some of you know my reputation. This now has MY attention.

Why is a man of such power and importance such as yourself posting on a thread full of peasants such as this?

Seriously dude nobody cares if you're an admin of anything unless it directly pertains to FTC.

[quote=Nastybutler]Nastybutler, Admin on the ReSurfed network. We (as a network) welcome charity events such as these, (FtC, ToTH...and whoever else comes to us) with arms wide open, but as I see fit, if things like this do manage to turn up, ReSurfed will always come first in my eyes. I, personally, will not take sides on any matter that turns up, only the side of the network we spent the last year building and trying to perfect to keep a base community active within the confines of TF2. Although I do not speak for the rest of the staff of ReSurfed, as they all have their own opinions on the matter; I fully trust they make rightful decisions upon imposing situations. If something does manage to turn up, it will be dealt with accordingly. Likewise, I do hope this is all just petty hearsay and things will turn out just fine.


Some of you know my reputation. This now has MY attention.[/quote]
Why is a man of such power and importance such as yourself posting on a thread full of peasants such as this?

Seriously dude nobody cares if you're an admin of anything unless it directly pertains to FTC.
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#66
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indecencybut i mean this is what you guys kinda get since you have a stream/charity event that has a pyro as the advertised class, plus the name "Flares That Care".

Cole warned us.

[quote=indecency]
but i mean this is what you guys kinda get since you have a stream/charity event that has a pyro as the advertised class, plus the name "Flares That Care".[/quote]
Cole warned us.
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#67
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Se7enNastybutlerNastybutler, Admin on the ReSurfed network. We (as a network) welcome charity events such as these, (FtC, ToTH...and whoever else comes to us) with arms wide open, but as I see fit, if things like this do manage to turn up, ReSurfed will always come first in my eyes. I, personally, will not take sides on any matter that turns up, only the side of the network we spent the last year building and trying to perfect to keep a base community active within the confines of TF2. Although I do not speak for the rest of the staff of ReSurfed, as they all have their own opinions on the matter; I fully trust they make rightful decisions upon imposing situations. If something does manage to turn up, it will be dealt with accordingly. Likewise, I do hope this is all just petty hearsay and things will turn out just fine.

Some of you know my reputation. This now has MY attention.
Why is a man of such power and importance such as yourself posting on a thread full of peasants such as this?

Seriously dude nobody cares if you're an admin of anything unless it directly pertains to FTC.

Think it's because they were doing some surf segments for the stream

[quote=Se7en][quote=Nastybutler]Nastybutler, Admin on the ReSurfed network. We (as a network) welcome charity events such as these, (FtC, ToTH...and whoever else comes to us) with arms wide open, but as I see fit, if things like this do manage to turn up, ReSurfed will always come first in my eyes. I, personally, will not take sides on any matter that turns up, only the side of the network we spent the last year building and trying to perfect to keep a base community active within the confines of TF2. Although I do not speak for the rest of the staff of ReSurfed, as they all have their own opinions on the matter; I fully trust they make rightful decisions upon imposing situations. If something does manage to turn up, it will be dealt with accordingly. Likewise, I do hope this is all just petty hearsay and things will turn out just fine.



Some of you know my reputation. This now has MY attention.[/quote]
Why is a man of such power and importance such as yourself posting on a thread full of peasants such as this?

Seriously dude nobody cares if you're an admin of anything unless it directly pertains to FTC.[/quote]

Think it's because they were doing some surf segments for the stream
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#68
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snovenITEMS WILL BE RETURNED IF ASKED OTHERWISE WILL BE SOLD
[/b]

To whoever donated, get your items back. This child doesn't deserve to have any of them.

[quote=snoven]
[b]ITEMS WILL BE RETURNED IF ASKED OTHERWISE WILL BE SOLD[/b]
[/b][/quote]

To whoever donated, get your items back. This child doesn't deserve to have any of them.
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#69
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Snoven, you should really watch what you say man. Try to be somewhat professional.

Edit: It's a good thing you are giving back the items. Otherwise people could file a fraud lawsuit against you.

Snoven, you should really watch what you say man. Try to be somewhat professional.

Edit: It's a good thing you are giving back the items. Otherwise people could file a fraud lawsuit against you.
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#70
26 Frags +

i mean throwing a fit and booking it out of the event the second somebody raises questions about ur past is pretty much the worst response u could come up with but feel free to wrap it up in "omgh im just so socially anxious" while ur still on record bragging about being a piece of shit human being

ur a dumb guy who got caught doin dumb guy things

later dude

also lmfao @ fraud lawsuit good luck suin a 14 year old over tf2 items man that ones gonna work out

i mean throwing a fit and booking it out of the event the second somebody raises questions about ur past is pretty much the worst response u could come up with but feel free to wrap it up in "omgh im just so socially anxious" while ur still on record bragging about being a piece of shit human being

ur a dumb guy who got caught doin dumb guy things

later dude

also lmfao @ fraud lawsuit good luck suin a 14 year old over tf2 items man that ones gonna work out
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#71
4 Frags +

snoven has officially cancelled: FTC Cancelled, Snoven leaving steam
he has also taken down the schedule that was on the site of Flares that Care.

anyway: as much as i am disgusted by what has been going on behind the scenes, i do sincerely hope that this could still be realised:
countless of hours have already been put into this. (and let's not forget what this was for. right?)
unless more people were involved in this crap.

but is it still doable? can it be postponed?

snoven has officially cancelled: [url=http://steamcommunity.com/groups/flaresthatcare#announcements/detail/234524438322001583]FTC Cancelled, Snoven leaving steam[/url]
he has also taken down the schedule that was on the site of Flares that Care.

anyway: as much as i am disgusted by what has been going on behind the scenes, i do sincerely hope that this could still be realised:
countless of hours have already been put into this. (and let's not forget what this was for. right?)
unless more people were involved in this crap.

but is it still doable? can it be postponed?
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#72
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mi mean throwing a fit and booking it out of the event the second somebody raises questions about ur past is pretty much the worst response u could come up with but feel free to wrap it up in "omgh im just so socially anxious" while ur still on record bragging about being a piece of shit human being

ur a dumb guy who got caught doin dumb guy things

later dude

also lmfao @ fraud lawsuit good luck suin a 14 year old over tf2 items man that ones gonna work out

It's possible man. It's not about the items. It's about the fact that he is posing his event as charity.

[quote=m]i mean throwing a fit and booking it out of the event the second somebody raises questions about ur past is pretty much the worst response u could come up with but feel free to wrap it up in "omgh im just so socially anxious" while ur still on record bragging about being a piece of shit human being

ur a dumb guy who got caught doin dumb guy things

later dude

also lmfao @ fraud lawsuit good luck suin a 14 year old over tf2 items man that ones gonna work out[/quote]

It's possible man. It's not about the items. It's about the fact that he is posing his event as charity.
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#73
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj_OmtqVLxY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vbY1Q_hIrI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj_OmtqVLxY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vbY1Q_hIrI
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#74
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snovenKevinIsPwnTo me that response is really aggressive. To act like we're a bunch of rude people for pointing out that scamming 100s of dollars should raise red flags is fucking crazy dude. I come out as rude when I don't, catch the social anxiety part, I'm garbage at doing that, my apologies. Yes of course I shouldn't be trusted with doing this.

Don't blame your bad behavior on social anxiety. You're just looking for an excuse not to examine yourself.

[quote=snoven][quote=KevinIsPwn]To me that response is really aggressive. To act like we're a bunch of rude people for pointing out that scamming 100s of dollars should raise red flags is fucking crazy dude.[/quote] I come out as rude when I don't, catch the social anxiety part, I'm garbage at doing that, my apologies. Yes of course I shouldn't be trusted with doing this.[/quote]

Don't blame your bad behavior on social anxiety. You're just looking for an excuse not to examine yourself.
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#75
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I just talked with snoven in the flares that care mumble. I tried to convince him to keep the event going and only have monetary donations that go directly to the charity but he refused to keep the event going besides 1 hour this afternoon. It would be a real shame if all the collaborative effort that went into this was wasted because snoven isn't willing to face his past. I would still like to participate in the showmatch tomorrow and i'll do my best to have everyone else from mts and knd attend, but we still need a streamer/casters/etc.
Someone please take over this event and remember what it's actually about.
http://www.childsplaycharity.org/testimonials

I just talked with snoven in the flares that care mumble. I tried to convince him to keep the event going and only have monetary donations that go directly to the charity but he refused to keep the event going besides 1 hour this afternoon. It would be a real shame if all the collaborative effort that went into this was wasted because snoven isn't willing to face his past. I would still like to participate in the showmatch tomorrow and i'll do my best to have everyone else from mts and knd attend, but we still need a streamer/casters/etc.
Someone please take over this event and remember what it's actually about.
http://www.childsplaycharity.org/testimonials
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#76
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julesdoingworkDon't blame your bad behavior on social anxiety. You're just looking for an excuse not to examine yourself.

it's just the playing-the-victim strat,
he knows what he's doing.

[quote=julesdoingwork]Don't blame your bad behavior on social anxiety. You're just looking for an excuse not to examine yourself.[/quote]

it's just the playing-the-victim strat,
he knows what he's doing.
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#77
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For a moment I thought I could go past my extremely horrible past being an asshole to some kid that gave out free unusuals and my greed overtaking me to scam about 8 buds off of guys that I convinced to broker their unusuals. I've realised now I have to start all over, and not get back in touch or tell anybody of my past, ever again. I'm a young, extremely depressed, anxious maniac

wonderfully scripted, depressed maniac scamming pixels

did you have this excuse on the back burner in case things went south?

[quote]For a moment I thought I could go past my extremely horrible past being an asshole to some kid that gave out free unusuals and my greed overtaking me to scam about 8 buds off of guys that I convinced to broker their unusuals. I've realised now I have to start all over, and not get back in touch or tell anybody of my past, ever again. I'm a young, extremely depressed, anxious maniac[/quote]

wonderfully scripted, depressed maniac scamming pixels

did you have this excuse on the back burner in case things went south?
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#78
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julesdoingworksnovenKevinIsPwnTo me that response is really aggressive. To act like we're a bunch of rude people for pointing out that scamming 100s of dollars should raise red flags is fucking crazy dude. I come out as rude when I don't, catch the social anxiety part, I'm garbage at doing that, my apologies. Yes of course I shouldn't be trusted with doing this.
Don't blame your bad behavior on social anxiety. You're just looking for an excuse not to examine yourself.

Social anxiety isn't even a good excuse. Most of the time it only applies to situations in real life. When doing it on the internet you are basically saying you have a fear of being judged, and therefore inducing anxiety. But you are running an event that requires you to be social. That contradicts any social anxiety you may have, because you are looking to be judged positively. Also I have that disorder, and I could care less what an online community thinks of me. Then again I have been diagnosed, and I am on treatment for that problem. I suggest getting checked out for it yourself, and to find treatment options.

[quote=julesdoingwork][quote=snoven][quote=KevinIsPwn]To me that response is really aggressive. To act like we're a bunch of rude people for pointing out that scamming 100s of dollars should raise red flags is fucking crazy dude.[/quote] I come out as rude when I don't, catch the social anxiety part, I'm garbage at doing that, my apologies. Yes of course I shouldn't be trusted with doing this.[/quote]

Don't blame your bad behavior on social anxiety. You're just looking for an excuse not to examine yourself.[/quote]

Social anxiety isn't even a good excuse. Most of the time it only applies to situations in real life. When doing it on the internet you are basically saying you have a fear of being judged, and therefore inducing anxiety. But you are running an event that requires you to be social. That contradicts any social anxiety you may have, because you are looking to be judged positively. Also I have that disorder, and I could care less what an online community thinks of me. Then again I have been diagnosed, and I am on treatment for that problem. I suggest getting checked out for it yourself, and to find treatment options.
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#79
6 Frags +

free edward snoven

free edward snoven
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#80
11 Frags +

Owner of ReSurfed here (I was providing my server for the surfing section of the event).

I think it's really a shame that, regardless of the trustworthiness of Snoven, the TF2 community managed to witch hunt hard enough to freak out the kid and force a cancellation of the event. The point of this was not to inflate anybody's ego, it was to raise money for a good cause and help out some kids in need. I personally just sent in $25 directly via childsplaycharity.org and I encourage others to do the same.

With that said, clearly ReSurfed will *not* be closing tomorrow as originally planned. However, I want to reiterate that I am happy to make the server available to anybody running similar events to this, whether that be ToTH or somebody else. There's plenty of room for good deeds beyond the yearly ToTH, and I hope this incident doesn't force others considering planning things to stop. Everybody has skeletons in their closet, part of life is moving on. I got VAC banned and laughed out of the competitive community 6 years ago as a stupid kid, but stuck around with the game and ended up running a server network bigger than I ever imagined it would be.

Owner of ReSurfed here (I was providing my server for the surfing section of the event).

I think it's really a shame that, regardless of the trustworthiness of Snoven, the TF2 community managed to witch hunt hard enough to freak out the kid and force a cancellation of the event. The point of this was not to inflate anybody's ego, it was to raise money for a good cause and help out some kids in need. I personally just sent in $25 directly via childsplaycharity.org and I encourage others to do the same.

With that said, clearly ReSurfed will *not* be closing tomorrow as originally planned. However, I want to reiterate that I am happy to make the server available to anybody running similar events to this, whether that be ToTH or somebody else. There's plenty of room for good deeds beyond the yearly ToTH, and I hope this incident doesn't force others considering planning things to stop. Everybody has skeletons in their closet, part of life is moving on. I got VAC banned and laughed out of the competitive community 6 years ago as a stupid kid, but stuck around with the game and ended up running a server network bigger than I ever imagined it would be.
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#81
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If he had good intentions wouldn't he still continue the event despite the information coming out? I think it is clear after he bailed when Digresser (many thanks btw) revealed this.

If he had good intentions wouldn't he still continue the event despite the information coming out? I think it is clear after he bailed when Digresser (many thanks btw) revealed this.
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#82
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as a reply to everybody saying im making excuses

my anxiety, depression, and immaturity is not an excuse for what i have done

its simply explaining im not a full blooded normal guy that does this like its a walk down the park
its an asshole move that caused my reputation to go south and made me want to try changing it when i should of just backed away, im not a victim, im the controller of everything i do, and i did it wrong

for giraffe's post, anybody that wants to run the event from this point onwards, whether that means postponing or whatever can get all the account informations and such from myself, and ill let anybody in staff that wants to continue working with whomever takes over know that they will be working for them, if nobody steps up the group, site, and such will just be taken down tonight

as a reply to everybody saying im making excuses

[b]my anxiety, depression, and immaturity is not an excuse for what i have done[/b]

its simply explaining im not a full blooded normal guy that does this like its a walk down the park
its an asshole move that caused my reputation to go south and made me want to try changing it when i should of just backed away, im not a victim, im the controller of everything i do, and i did it wrong

for giraffe's post, anybody that wants to run the event from this point onwards, whether that means postponing or whatever can get all the account informations and such from myself, and ill let anybody in staff that wants to continue working with whomever takes over know that they will be working for them, if nobody steps up the group, site, and such will just be taken down tonight
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#83
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Frost_If he had good intentions wouldn't he still continue the event despite the information coming out? I think it is clear after he bailed when Digresser (many thanks btw) revealed this.

im cancelling due to the reputations of other people involved and for the lack of participants to make this a whole event, if id still run it id postpone it, but i dont want to ruin reputation so somebody else can run it to still make it a good event

[quote=Frost_]If he had good intentions wouldn't he still continue the event despite the information coming out? I think it is clear after he bailed when Digresser (many thanks btw) revealed this.[/quote] im cancelling due to the reputations of other people involved and for the lack of participants to make this a whole event, if id still run it id postpone it, but i dont want to ruin reputation so somebody else can run it to still make it a good event
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#84
94 Frags +

Never tell your password to anyone.
snoven: yes?
wrech: so basically you're going to sell everyhing people donated to you
wrech: ?
wrech: im confused about what you posted
snoven: if they ask for it back
wrech: if thats the case can i just have my keys back
snoven: ill trade it back
snoven: how many keys did you donate
wrech: 7
snoven: one moment
wrech: i dont even care about the hats
snoven: already sold, want something else as replacement
wrech: wtf
snoven: i have it up on the market
snoven: im leaving and just gonna buy games with it
snoven: so
wrech: take them off the market?
snoven: if people get in touch with me before they do
snoven: all theres
snoven: yeah but
snoven: nah
snoven: sorry man
wrech: ok so whats a replacement
wrech: ?
wrech: in your eyes
snoven: uh
wrech: buy me csgo
snoven: 7 keys worth
wrech: thats defintely worth 7 keys
snoven: uh
snoven: yeah sure
wrech: can you gift it to me over steam
snoven is now Offline.

rofl how did no one see this coming

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snoven: yes?
wrech: so basically you're going to sell everyhing people donated to you
wrech: ?
wrech: im confused about what you posted
snoven: if they ask for it back
wrech: if thats the case can i just have my keys back
snoven: ill trade it back
snoven: how many keys did you donate
wrech: 7
snoven: one moment
wrech: i dont even care about the hats
snoven: already sold, want something else as replacement
wrech: wtf
snoven: i have it up on the market
snoven: im leaving and just gonna buy games with it
snoven: so
wrech: take them off the market?
snoven: if people get in touch with me before they do
snoven: all theres
snoven: yeah but
snoven: nah
snoven: sorry man
wrech: ok so whats a replacement
wrech: ?
wrech: in your eyes
snoven: uh
wrech: buy me csgo
snoven: 7 keys worth
wrech: thats defintely worth 7 keys
snoven: uh
snoven: yeah sure
wrech: can you gift it to me over steam
snoven is now Offline.


rofl how did no one see this coming

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#85
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snovenITEMS WILL BE RETURNED IF ASKED OTHERWISE WILL BE SOLD

you virgin piece of lying shit you arent refunding anything

[quote=snoven]ITEMS WILL BE RETURNED IF ASKED OTHERWISE WILL BE SOLD[/quote]

you virgin piece of lying shit you arent refunding anything
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#86
10 Frags +

milo sure will be happy he won't have to play for me on saturday now <|8O)

milo sure will be happy he won't have to play for me on saturday now <|8O)
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#87
6 Frags +

Dang. When I saw this event and saw that that moron of the community named Plotchy was an admin of the PR team (lol...), I knew to stay far far away. Especially since he's trade banned and is generally the cancer of this small community. http://steamcommunity.com/id/plotchy Thought everyone would kinda double check and think the same way? Didn't realize flares that care would get this popular, lol! Unfortunate.

Dang. When I saw this event and saw that that moron of the community named Plotchy was an admin of the PR team (lol...), I knew to stay far far away. Especially since he's trade banned and is generally the cancer of this small community. http://steamcommunity.com/id/plotchy Thought everyone would kinda double check and think the same way? Didn't realize flares that care would get this popular, lol! Unfortunate.
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#88
8 Frags +

You say you're going to retry coming back and not be an asshole. Don't even bother.

You say you're going to retry coming back and not be an asshole. Don't even bother.
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#89
21 Frags +

can't put into text how disappointed i am

can't put into text how disappointed i am
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#90
21 Frags +
wrecheddddd

dw man im sure it's just his dad who pulled the plug again and also blocked you on steam

[quote=wrecheddddd][/quote]
dw man im sure it's just his dad who pulled the plug again and also blocked you on steam
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