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low fps on tf2 with gtx 970
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digitalpantherwhy not use shadowplay?

shadowplay doesnt support window borderless in any game and relies on fullscreen mode. streaming in full screen mode is not ideal for a lot of reasons

[quote=digitalpanther]why not use shadowplay?[/quote]

shadowplay doesnt support window borderless in any game and relies on fullscreen mode. streaming in full screen mode is not ideal for a lot of reasons
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switch to nvenc in encoding

switch to nvenc in encoding
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honestly though if i was trying to stream with a shit cpu id max my graphics to like high ultra everything with no blur and no vsync and try to maximize gpu usage and maximize cpu usage for the video encoding

honestly though if i was trying to stream with a shit cpu id max my graphics to like high ultra everything with no blur and no vsync and try to maximize gpu usage and maximize cpu usage for the video encoding
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digitalpantherwhy not use shadowplay?

shadowplay give way les quality and i cant have any scenes to move around

RRPCheck your gpu clocks, i had problem with my gtx770 using idle clocks because DX8 maxframes TF2 wasn't demanding enough for it.

how and where to check that or just start useing DX9?

and i have put on only two cpu cores for tf2 and 8 for OBS and its running more stable does that sound wrong or im i going crazy mat_qeueu_mode 0

[quote=digitalpanther]why not use shadowplay?[/quote]
shadowplay give way les quality and i cant have any scenes to move around

[quote=RRP]Check your gpu clocks, i had problem with my gtx770 using idle clocks because DX8 maxframes TF2 wasn't demanding enough for it.[/quote]

how and where to check that or just start useing DX9?


and i have put on only two cpu cores for tf2 and 8 for OBS and its running more stable does that sound wrong or im i going crazy mat_qeueu_mode 0
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#26
Tell me, which two cores was TF2 running on?

http://i.imgur.com/Eelw9IZ.png

#26
Tell me, which two cores was TF2 running on?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/Eelw9IZ.png[/img]
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digitalpantherwhy not use shadowplay?

shadowplay is not handy for streaming cuz the quality is pretty shitty and i cant add thing or remove thing or move things
sow shadowplay is just a nono and OBS can use the same tech as shadowplay and im useing that

[quote=digitalpanther]why not use shadowplay?[/quote]
shadowplay is not handy for streaming cuz the quality is pretty shitty and i cant add thing or remove thing or move things
sow shadowplay is just a nono and OBS can use the same tech as shadowplay and im useing that
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Setsul#26
Tell me, which two cores was TF2 running on?
http://i.imgur.com/Eelw9IZ.png

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[quote=Setsul]#26
Tell me, which two cores was TF2 running on?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/Eelw9IZ.png[/img][/quote]
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RRPCheck your gpu clocks, i had problem with my gtx770 using idle clocks because DX8 maxframes TF2 wasn't demanding enough for it.

Is this really a problem that can occur? I notice that I only get about 160 fps at midfights with maxframes on 780 Ti + i5 4670k

[quote=RRP]Check your gpu clocks, i had problem with my gtx770 using idle clocks because DX8 maxframes TF2 wasn't demanding enough for it.[/quote]

Is this really a problem that can occur? I notice that I only get about 160 fps at midfights with maxframes on 780 Ti + i5 4670k
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Use NVENC in the OBS "encoding" options for streaming, this uses the GPU not the CPU to do all the work, so you're avoiding the bottleneck, using your monstrous GPU instead.

Use ProcessLasso for automatically setting Core Affinities (untick Core0 for everything but TF2, it biases that core so it's the first to max out at 100% load, causing FPS drops and stuttering).

With these two tweaks, streaming should give you 0 FPS hit.

Use NVENC in the OBS "encoding" options for streaming, this uses the GPU not the CPU to do all the work, so you're avoiding the bottleneck, using your monstrous GPU instead.

Use ProcessLasso for automatically setting Core Affinities (untick Core0 for everything but TF2, it biases that core so it's the first to max out at 100% load, causing FPS drops and stuttering).

With these two tweaks, streaming should give you 0 FPS hit.
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stabbyUse NVENC in the OBS "encoding" options for streaming

oh god nvenc for streaming

[quote=stabby]Use NVENC in the OBS "encoding" options for streaming[/quote]
oh god nvenc for streaming
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I have the fx8350 and I barely drop frames at all when I try streaming.
I mean, you literally have like 6 cores to spare when streaming on the 8350.

It's most likely just your stream setup that is shit because streaming on this cpu shouldn't hit your framerate that hard at all.

I have the fx8350 and I barely drop frames at all when I try streaming.
I mean, you literally have like 6 cores to spare when streaming on the 8350.

It's most likely just your stream setup that is shit because streaming on this cpu shouldn't hit your framerate that hard at all.
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Why is there then a weird problem with the fx CPU's and windows 7

Why is there then a weird problem with the fx CPU's and windows 7
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nobelharvardsMy guess, is either because Windows 7 does not play nice with 8 core CPUs, since Windows 7 was released back in 2009, or...

AMD have always been the underdog against Intel. Because they have less money, I am guessing they are forced to focus more on the latest OS drivers (Windows 8, 8.1, possibly 10 as well), and less on the older ones such as XP, Vista or 7.

I think it's probably something more to do with multicore optimizations. AMD was fine compared to Intel in the Phenom 2 days. FX CPUs are historically bad at single-threaded operations.

Remember, even DX11 is single threaded.

[quote=nobelharvards]My guess, is either because Windows 7 does not play nice with 8 core CPUs, since Windows 7 was released back in 2009, or...

AMD have always been the underdog against Intel. Because they have less money, I am guessing they are forced to focus more on the latest OS drivers (Windows 8, 8.1, possibly 10 as well), and less on the older ones such as XP, Vista or 7.[/quote]
I think it's probably something more to do with multicore optimizations. AMD was fine compared to Intel in the Phenom 2 days. FX CPUs are historically bad at single-threaded operations.

Remember, even DX11 is single threaded.
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you should really be fine, i can stream fine (120+) with an i5 2500k sandybridge and gtx670

you should really be fine, i can stream fine (120+) with an i5 2500k sandybridge and gtx670
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Easy your using the wrong settings, use game capture in obs, not screen

Easy your using the wrong settings, use game capture in obs, not screen
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Snowdreamyou should really be fine, i can stream fine (120+) with an i5 2500k sandybridge and gtx670

2500k is still one of the best singlethreaded CPUs out there.

AKGAMERADAREasy your using the wrong settings, use game capture in obs, not screen

Read the thread next time, that's not an issue.

[quote=Snowdream]you should really be fine, i can stream fine (120+) with an i5 2500k sandybridge and gtx670[/quote]
2500k is still one of the best singlethreaded CPUs out there.

[quote=AKGAMERADAR]Easy your using the wrong settings, use game capture in obs, not screen[/quote]
Read the thread next time, that's not an issue.
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Late to the party, but just in case somoene else ends up needing some help with this problem and this thread doesnt help (like it didn't help me)... I wanted to share with you all the fact that my own GTX 970 was performing very strangely: tf2 would flit between ~120 and 20 fps in about 1 second, making the game unplayable. I resolved it by exiting steam and re-running as an administrator. Cheers!

Late to the party, but just in case somoene else ends up needing some help with this problem and this thread doesnt help (like it didn't help me)... I wanted to share with you all the fact that my own GTX 970 was performing very strangely: tf2 would flit between ~120 and 20 fps in about 1 second, making the game unplayable. I resolved it by exiting steam and re-running as an administrator. Cheers!
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Set TF2 to use threads 0 1 2 3 4 5 and for OBS to use threads 6 7

TF2 doesn't scale well past 3 threads anyways (it will use them but there will be little to no FPS boost) and this will prevent OBS from using the threads TF2 is using. This gave me a significant FPS boost when i used a FX-8320 while streaming.

Set TF2 to use threads 0 1 2 3 4 5 and for OBS to use threads 6 7

TF2 doesn't scale well past 3 threads anyways (it will use them but there will be little to no FPS boost) and this will prevent OBS from using the threads TF2 is using. This gave me a significant FPS boost when i used a FX-8320 while streaming.
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Screwballstuff

late to the party

besides, OBS should use more than 2 threads for 60fps streaming, especially if using CPU-based x264 and a weak per-thread CPU like the 8320

[quote=Screwball]stuff[/quote]
late to the party

besides, OBS should use more than 2 threads for 60fps streaming, especially if using CPU-based x264 and a weak per-thread CPU like the 8320
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