anyone else keeping up? this weeks episode was crazy.
HBO sent me a letter for torrenting GoT I'll never get a job with this criminal record!
i wish joffrey was still alive. so much more amusing and most importantly not a little bitch.
edit: reminded myself of that glorious video
edit: reminded myself of that glorious video
i only watched the season premiere episode for s5 where some lady gets raped
was cool
was cool
That fight scene in Dorne felt so awkward. It was like middle school play level choreography
The alleyway fight scene with the sons of harpy was really poorly done imo. Someones about to get in a knife fight, cut to two random deaths in different locations, come back and all of a sudden there's a spear. O_o
Otherwise it's been fun :)
Otherwise it's been fun :)
Not to mention a squad of Unsullied got butchered by a gang of rich boy citizens in masks with knives...Honestly that shouldn't have even been a contest.
Also Ser Barristan deciding to take a walk in the city with no armor on, when he knows there is thinly-veiled revolt going on.
Also Ser Barristan deciding to take a walk in the city with no armor on, when he knows there is thinly-veiled revolt going on.
They have deviated from the books so far it makes me sad. I have no idea how they are going to rectify some plotlines.
HarbingerThey have deviated from the books so far it makes me sad. I have no idea how they are going to rectify some plotlines.Show ContentJorah doesn't get grayscale and Sansa doesn't actually marry Ramsay....
Right. And I feel like they really missed an awesome story line by omitting Griff.
Also the fact that they've like, completely forgotten about the Ironborn.
Right. And I feel like they really missed an awesome story line by omitting Griff.
Also the fact that they've like, completely forgotten about the Ironborn.
ScarletNot to mention a squad of Unsullied got butchered by a gang of rich boy citizens in masks with knives...Honestly that shouldn't have even been a contest.
Also Ser Barristan deciding to take a walk in the city with no armor on, when he knows there is thinly-veiled revolt going on.
I always figured they were just hiring former soldiers/fighters.
Also Ser Barristan deciding to take a walk in the city with no armor on, when he knows there is thinly-veiled revolt going on.[/quote]
I always figured they were just hiring former soldiers/fighters.
HarbingerThey have deviated from the books so far it makes me sad. I have no idea how they are going to rectify some plotlines. Jorah doesn't get grayscale and Sansa doesn't actually marry Ramsay...
haha
haha
season has been slow so far, liked previous ones more
confident theyll pick it up soon though
confident theyll pick it up soon though
This season is so much more hollywood than the other seasons, kinda sucks.
ScarletNot to mention a squad of Unsullied got butchered by a gang of rich boy citizens in masks with knives...Honestly that shouldn't have even been a contest.
Also Ser Barristan deciding to take a walk in the city with no armor on, when he knows there is thinly-veiled revolt going on.
noblemen were taught how to fight in this universe
Also Ser Barristan deciding to take a walk in the city with no armor on, when he knows there is thinly-veiled revolt going on.[/quote]
noblemen were taught how to fight in this universe
remedyScarletNot to mention a squad of Unsullied got butchered by a gang of rich boy citizens in masks with knives...Honestly that shouldn't have even been a contest.noblemen were taught how to fight in this universe
Also Ser Barristan deciding to take a walk in the city with no armor on, when he knows there is thinly-veiled revolt going on.
But apparently the group of fearless armored soldiers groomed and trained in warfare since childhood were not. They had shields and ranged weaponry. To get buthchered by knive wielders in bathrobes is ridiculous. Phalanx formation, and everyone (including the most badass character in the story) would still be alive.
Also Ser Barristan deciding to take a walk in the city with no armor on, when he knows there is thinly-veiled revolt going on.[/quote]
noblemen were taught how to fight in this universe[/quote]
But apparently the group of fearless armored soldiers groomed and trained in warfare since childhood were not. They had shields and ranged weaponry. To get buthchered by knive wielders in bathrobes is ridiculous. Phalanx formation, and everyone (including the most badass character in the story) would still be alive.
basically every deviation from the book has resulted in a decline in quality imo, not at all happy with some of these things
Hallowbasically every deviation from the book has resulted in a decline in quality imo, not at all happy with some of these things
But they need to deviate from the books so they can keep chucking out seasons. Martin can't write 600 page books every few months
But they need to deviate from the books so they can keep chucking out seasons. Martin can't write 600 page books every few months
remedyScarletNot to mention a squad of Unsullied got butchered by a gang of rich boy citizens in masks with knives...Honestly that shouldn't have even been a contest.noblemen were taught how to fight in this universe
Also Ser Barristan deciding to take a walk in the city with no armor on, when he knows there is thinly-veiled revolt going on.
In Westeros, yes. The nobility are trained from a young age to be knights.
In SLAVER'S Bay, they have, you know, slaves to do their fighting for them.
Westeros and Essos are two very different continents.
Also Ser Barristan deciding to take a walk in the city with no armor on, when he knows there is thinly-veiled revolt going on.[/quote]
noblemen were taught how to fight in this universe[/quote]
In Westeros, yes. The nobility are trained from a young age to be knights.
In SLAVER'S Bay, they have, you know, slaves to do their fighting for them.
Westeros and Essos are two very different continents.
At least I can watch the show happy without thinking it will spoil the books since they're just making shit up now
SeekHallowbasically every deviation from the book has resulted in a decline in quality imo, not at all happy with some of these things
But they need to deviate from the books so they can keep chucking out seasons. Martin can't write 600 page books every few months
martin's told the creators how it goes in case he chokes before he finishes
http://www.hitfix.com/news/george-r-r-martin-tells-hbo-how-game-of-thrones-will-end
they just dont give a fuck
But they need to deviate from the books so they can keep chucking out seasons. Martin can't write 600 page books every few months[/quote]
martin's told the creators how it goes in case he chokes before he finishes
http://www.hitfix.com/news/george-r-r-martin-tells-hbo-how-game-of-thrones-will-end
they just dont give a fuck
I don't mind most of the changes, except of course Ser Grandfather's early death.
I always felt Jorah would end up playing the role of the tragic hero, every part of him both in the books and show seems to point to it, so him getting grayscale is only fitting.
[spoiler]One change I especially like is how they're handling Winterfell. I can see Theon's redemption arc being very satisfying, especially after seeing that last scene.[/spoiler]
I always felt Jorah would end up playing the role of the tragic hero, every part of him both in the books and show seems to point to it, so him getting grayscale is only fitting.
I hope Ramsey will die in a terrible, painfull death.
RigelI don't mind most of the changes, except of course Ser Grandfather's early death.
Show ContentOne change I especially like is how they're handling Winterfell. I can see Theon's redemption arc being very satisfying, especially after seeing that last scene.
I always felt Jorah would end up playing the role of the tragic hero, every part of him both in the books and show seems to point to it, so him getting grayscale is only fitting.
Book 5 Spoilers Below, Friends:
Sansa in Winterfell could have been interesting if they made her a player there. Instead she is just a pawn for Littlefinger's plot line, and Theon's. I'm not a Sansa fan in the books, but people have been wondering when she'll ever get her own story. I see where they are coming from.
As for the Jorah thing, I'm interested to see where it goes (this probably means he'll be the one in the pits when the Drogon "pops in," but it puts a tentative end to this theory: http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/1xgw3l/spoilers_all_i_guess_you_could_say_im_on_a_jorah/ And that is a big shame, because it's an awesome theory.
[spoiler]One change I especially like is how they're handling Winterfell. I can see Theon's redemption arc being very satisfying, especially after seeing that last scene.[/spoiler]
I always felt Jorah would end up playing the role of the tragic hero, every part of him both in the books and show seems to point to it, so him getting grayscale is only fitting.[/quote]
[b]Book 5 Spoilers Below, Friends:[/b]
[spoiler]The reason I hate the Winterfell shift is because it takes 2 POV characters (Sansa and Theon) and merges them, seemingly for the benefit of advancing only Theon's story in the show. I get sort of eye-rolly when people start talking about women's victimization in fictional storytelling, but . . . Sansa is already a victim and already a survivor. Her plot line in the books has her moving away from that; now in the show, they've backtracked and added rape to her victimization. The big question is why? Sansa is a victim, Ramsey is a villain, Theon is a broken man who needs to find redemption. All of these things are true without raping Sansa. So why rape her? It also seems pretty tasteless when you consider the title of the episode was "Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken" but the focus was not on Dorne.
Sansa in Winterfell could have been interesting if they made her a player there. Instead she is just a pawn for Littlefinger's plot line, and Theon's. I'm not a Sansa fan in the books, but people have been wondering when she'll ever get her own story. I see where they are coming from.
As for the Jorah thing, I'm interested to see where it goes (this probably means he'll be the one in the pits when the Drogon "pops in," but it puts a tentative end to this theory: http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/1xgw3l/spoilers_all_i_guess_you_could_say_im_on_a_jorah/ And that is a big shame, because it's an awesome theory.[/spoiler]
I love Ramsay Snow. Something about the way the actor plays him and how he is even more sadistic than Joffery himself makes him a good replacement. Season has been mediocre so far though. Daenerys scenes still suck and that fight in that ally really pissed me off. Littlefinger, Tyrion and Jon Snow are still awesome though so im gonna keep watching just to see how it turns out. Also its hilarious how all these disgusting tumblr feminists got pissed off at the "rape" scene. Stupid people who can't handle violence and rape should go watch Spongebob instead.
BLoodSireremedyScarletNot to mention a squad of Unsullied got butchered by a gang of rich boy citizens in masks with knives...Honestly that shouldn't have even been a contest.noblemen were taught how to fight in this universe
Also Ser Barristan deciding to take a walk in the city with no armor on, when he knows there is thinly-veiled revolt going on.
But apparently the group of fearless armored soldiers groomed and trained in warfare since childhood were not. They had shields and ranged weaponry. To get buthchered by knive wielders in bathrobes is ridiculous. Phalanx formation, and everyone (including the most badass character in the story) would still be alive.
To be fair, the Unsullied aren't the end all be all perfect soldiers, they're still human and can make errors/have weakness. For one, seeing as how they are castrated when they are still children, they do not grow near as much muscle mass as a full grown male would due to substantially less testosterone. They also are not typically picked and chosen or trained to be great generals/commanders, so acting on their own decisions or on the command of a bad commander will substantially hinder their abilities to do well. Finally, just because they're trained in combat against other armies or soldiers, doesn't mean they were trained or meant to be pitted against cutthroats or quick opponents with little armor and fast, stabbing weapons.
That being said, I still think the Unsullied were treated kinda shitty and looked pretty lame in comparison to what they should.
Also Ser Barristan deciding to take a walk in the city with no armor on, when he knows there is thinly-veiled revolt going on.[/quote]
noblemen were taught how to fight in this universe[/quote]
But apparently the group of fearless armored soldiers groomed and trained in warfare since childhood were not. They had shields and ranged weaponry. To get buthchered by knive wielders in bathrobes is ridiculous. Phalanx formation, and everyone (including the most badass character in the story) would still be alive.[/quote]
To be fair, the Unsullied aren't the end all be all perfect soldiers, they're still human and can make errors/have weakness. For one, seeing as how they are castrated when they are still children, they do not grow near as much muscle mass as a full grown male would due to substantially less testosterone. They also are not typically picked and chosen or trained to be great generals/commanders, so acting on their own decisions or on the command of a bad commander will substantially hinder their abilities to do well. Finally, just because they're trained in combat against other armies or soldiers, doesn't mean they were trained or meant to be pitted against cutthroats or quick opponents with little armor and fast, stabbing weapons.
That being said, I still think the Unsullied were treated kinda shitty and looked pretty lame in comparison to what they should.
BLoodSireRigelI don't mind most of the changes, except of course Ser Grandfather's early death.
Show ContentOne change I especially like is how they're handling Winterfell. I can see Theon's redemption arc being very satisfying, especially after seeing that last scene.
I always felt Jorah would end up playing the role of the tragic hero, every part of him both in the books and show seems to point to it, so him getting grayscale is only fitting.
Book 5 Spoilers Below, Friends:
Show ContentThe reason I hate the Winterfell shift is because it takes 2 POV characters (Sansa and Theon) and merges them, seemingly for the benefit of advancing only Theon's story in the show. I get sort of eye-rolly when people start talking about women's victimization in fictional storytelling, but . . . Sansa is already a victim and already a survivor. Her plot line in the books has her moving away from that; now in the show, they've backtracked and added rape to her victimization. The big question is why? Sansa is a victim, Ramsey is a villain, Theon is a broken man who needs to find redemption. All of these things are true without raping Sansa. So why rape her? It also seems pretty tasteless when you consider the title of the episode was "Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken" but the focus was not on Dorne.
Sansa in Winterfell could have been interesting if they made her a player there. Instead she is just a pawn for Littlefinger's plot line, and Theon's. I'm not a Sansa fan in the books, but people have been wondering when she'll ever get her own story. I see where they are coming from.
As for the Jorah thing, I'm interested to see where it goes (this probably means he'll be the one in the pits when the Drogon "pops in," but it puts a tentative end to this theory: http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/1xgw3l/spoilers_all_i_guess_you_could_say_im_on_a_jorah/ And that is a big shame, because it's an awesome theory.
I disagree completely that Sansa is the victim here. She could have easily told Baelish she wanted no part in this arrangement a few episodes ago. It's also not like Sansa didn't know what was going to happen to her the night of her wedding. She specifically chose this path because she was ready for it. She has completely matured at this point and is in charge of her own destiny... even if it means going through some pretty nasty stuff. She isn't frightened anymore, as you can tell from the bath scene, and it looks like there's going to be a conspiracy brewing after watching the trailer for next week.
But why have her raped? Well, with a wedding comes a bedding, and I have a hard time seeing Sansa willingly bedding Ramsey. It meant a lot for Theon's character, which I feel was definitely the focus of the scene. You can tell he's completely broken at this point, but you could glimpse a little bit of that shortly before when he goes up to Sansa's room before the wedding to take her to it. Maybe there was a way to get around the whole bedding without turning Sansa's character into something closer to Margeary or Cersei (manipulative and borderline whore-ish), but I can't see it.
I do think it says something about Sansa's character though if she was willing to go through with this, knowing what was going to eventually happen. We'll have to see how the season plays out, but I have a feeling that Sansa is going to be in an interesting position by season's end. They've been reminding us "the north remembers" every episode, and I don't think D&D will wait till next season to tell us what exactly that means.
[spoiler]One change I especially like is how they're handling Winterfell. I can see Theon's redemption arc being very satisfying, especially after seeing that last scene.[/spoiler]
I always felt Jorah would end up playing the role of the tragic hero, every part of him both in the books and show seems to point to it, so him getting grayscale is only fitting.[/quote]
[b]Book 5 Spoilers Below, Friends:[/b]
[spoiler]The reason I hate the Winterfell shift is because it takes 2 POV characters (Sansa and Theon) and merges them, seemingly for the benefit of advancing only Theon's story in the show. I get sort of eye-rolly when people start talking about women's victimization in fictional storytelling, but . . . Sansa is already a victim and already a survivor. Her plot line in the books has her moving away from that; now in the show, they've backtracked and added rape to her victimization. The big question is why? Sansa is a victim, Ramsey is a villain, Theon is a broken man who needs to find redemption. All of these things are true without raping Sansa. So why rape her? It also seems pretty tasteless when you consider the title of the episode was "Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken" but the focus was not on Dorne.
Sansa in Winterfell could have been interesting if they made her a player there. Instead she is just a pawn for Littlefinger's plot line, and Theon's. I'm not a Sansa fan in the books, but people have been wondering when she'll ever get her own story. I see where they are coming from.
As for the Jorah thing, I'm interested to see where it goes (this probably means he'll be the one in the pits when the Drogon "pops in," but it puts a tentative end to this theory: http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/1xgw3l/spoilers_all_i_guess_you_could_say_im_on_a_jorah/ And that is a big shame, because it's an awesome theory.[/spoiler][/quote]
I disagree completely that Sansa is the victim here. She could have easily told Baelish she wanted no part in this arrangement a few episodes ago. It's also not like Sansa didn't know what was going to happen to her the night of her wedding. She specifically chose this path because she was ready for it. She has completely matured at this point and is in charge of her own destiny... even if it means going through some pretty nasty stuff. She isn't frightened anymore, as you can tell from the bath scene, and it looks like there's going to be a conspiracy brewing after watching the trailer for next week.
But why have her raped? Well, with a wedding comes a bedding, and I have a hard time seeing Sansa willingly bedding Ramsey. It meant a lot for Theon's character, which I feel was definitely the focus of the scene. You can tell he's completely broken at this point, but you could glimpse a little bit of that shortly before when he goes up to Sansa's room before the wedding to take her to it. Maybe there was a way to get around the whole bedding without turning Sansa's character into something closer to Margeary or Cersei (manipulative and borderline whore-ish), but I can't see it.
I do think it says something about Sansa's character though if she was willing to go through with this, knowing what was going to eventually happen. We'll have to see how the season plays out, but I have a feeling that Sansa is going to be in an interesting position by season's end. They've been reminding us "the north remembers" every episode, and I don't think D&D will wait till next season to tell us what exactly that means.