radeonFucking- out, out, OUT.
laughed out loud thanks
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[url=http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/06/19/poll-what-is-your-favourite-american-shooting-so-far-this-year/]A sad state of affairs.[/url]
loljkTurinuhh Sociopaths and Psychopaths can plan and execute such attacks, not all mental illness completely incapacitates people. He, like every other mass murderer in history, is probably completely fucked mentally. However, this gives him no excuse as he was a racist who shot up a place. He deserves whatever punishment he gets, and it should be harsh.
My point is merely that calling someone crazy is less an explanation of why someone did something and more a judgement of whether you think their act was bad. Many intellectuals, artists, scientists, people who do exceptional things are extremely fanatical/anti social/ moody/ difficult/ strange but they are not deemed crazy because what they are doing is either harmless or in some cases beneficial to others. It just seems that in the colloquial sense the term 'crazy' is just an exclamation rather than an explanation for why people do the things they do. So there is no real worth in calling people crazy when they do heinous acts. Moreover if the shooter really was so obviously 'crazy' then someone would have taken steps to stop him before hand, but they didn't.
The difference between the said artists, intellectuals, scientists, and other extraordinary people whom are afflicted, and the murderer exists within the realms of abnormal psychology. Many of the artists, intellectuals, scientists, and others you referenced/how you referenced them are afflicted in some way by a psychological disorder or abnormality in thought processes. Practically defined, abnormalities are:
-Discomfort (physical or psychological discomfort)
-Deviance (unusual behavior)
-Dysfunction (inability to perform one's role)
-Maladaptive (harmful to self, or others)
It only takes one of these four terms for something to be considered abnormal.
The difference between those people, and the murderer is that they're not maladaptive - for sake of the explanation, let's say that they're not. They may be in discomfort, deviant, and/or dysfunctional in their roles, but they are not maladaptive, hence why they're not considered "crazy". If a person is maladaptive, they may not show any discomfort, deviance, or dysfunction which makes it possible that nobody will know their intentions, hence why people didn't take steps to stop this person's awful action
Even if a person is in therapy and a psychologist evaluates the individual, it's entirely possible for an individual especially if a psychopath or sociopath to lie, as both have a general lack of empathy, to give no ques of maladaptive intent.
Edit: fixed some typos...again.
d_bRainmanpretty clear its a statement on the ridic amount of gun crime in the us compared to any other 1st world countryCribbyA sad state of affairs.
Holy shit why would they even put this together
That's still fucked.
[quote=loljk][quote=Turin]uhh Sociopaths and Psychopaths can plan and execute such attacks, not all mental illness completely incapacitates people. He, like every other mass murderer in history, is probably completely fucked mentally. However, this gives him [u][b]no[/b][/u] excuse as he was a racist who shot up a place. He deserves whatever punishment he gets, and it should be harsh.[/quote]
My point is merely that calling someone crazy is less an explanation of why someone did something and more a judgement of whether you think their act was bad. Many intellectuals, artists, scientists, people who do exceptional things are extremely fanatical/anti social/ moody/ difficult/ strange but they are not deemed crazy because what they are doing is either harmless or in some cases beneficial to others. It just seems that in the colloquial sense the term 'crazy' is just an exclamation rather than an explanation for why people do the things they do. So there is no real worth in calling people crazy when they do heinous acts. Moreover if the shooter really was so obviously 'crazy' then someone would have taken steps to stop him before hand, but they didn't.[/quote]
The difference between the said artists, intellectuals, scientists, and other extraordinary people whom are afflicted, and the murderer exists within the realms of abnormal psychology. Many of the artists, intellectuals, scientists, and others you referenced/how you referenced them are afflicted in some way by a psychological disorder or abnormality in thought processes. Practically defined, abnormalities are:
-Discomfort (physical or psychological discomfort)
-Deviance (unusual behavior)
-Dysfunction (inability to perform one's role)
-Maladaptive (harmful to self, or others)
It only takes one of these four terms for something to be considered abnormal.
The difference between those people, and the murderer is that they're not maladaptive - for sake of the explanation, let's say that they're not. They may be in discomfort, deviant, and/or dysfunctional in their roles, but they are not maladaptive, hence why they're not considered "crazy". If a person is maladaptive, they may not show any discomfort, deviance, or dysfunction which makes it possible that [i]nobody[/i] will know their intentions, hence why people didn't take steps to stop this person's awful action
Even if a person is in therapy and a psychologist evaluates the individual, it's entirely possible for an individual especially if a psychopath or sociopath to lie, as both have a general lack of empathy, to give no ques of maladaptive intent.
Edit: fixed some typos...again.
[quote=d_b][quote=Rainman][quote=Cribby][url=http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/06/19/poll-what-is-your-favourite-american-shooting-so-far-this-year/]A sad state of affairs.[/url][/quote]
Holy shit why would they even put this together[/quote]
pretty clear its a statement on the ridic amount of gun crime in the us compared to any other 1st world country[/quote]
That's still fucked.
My point is merely that calling someone crazy is less an explanation of why someone did something and more a judgement of whether you think their act was bad. Many intellectuals, artists, scientists, people who do exceptional things are extremely fanatical/anti social/ moody/ difficult/ strange but they are not deemed crazy because what they are doing is either harmless or in some cases beneficial to others. It just seems that in the colloquial sense the term 'crazy' is just an exclamation rather than an explanation for why people do the things they do. So there is no real worth in calling people crazy when they do heinous acts. Moreover if the shooter really was so obviously 'crazy' then someone would have taken steps to stop him before hand, but they didn't.[/quote]
The difference between the said artists, intellectuals, scientists, and other extraordinary people whom are afflicted, and the murderer exists within the realms of abnormal psychology. Many of the artists, intellectuals, scientists, and others you referenced/how you referenced them are afflicted in some way by a psychological disorder or abnormality in thought processes. Practically defined, abnormalities are:
-Discomfort (physical or psychological discomfort)
-Deviance (unusual behavior)
-Dysfunction (inability to perform one's role)
-Maladaptive (harmful to self, or others)
It only takes one of these four terms for something to be considered abnormal.
The difference between those people, and the murderer is that they're not maladaptive - for sake of the explanation, let's say that they're not. They may be in discomfort, deviant, and/or dysfunctional in their roles, but they are not maladaptive, hence why they're not considered "crazy". If a person is maladaptive, they may not show any discomfort, deviance, or dysfunction which makes it possible that [i]nobody[/i] will know their intentions, hence why people didn't take steps to stop this person's awful action
Even if a person is in therapy and a psychologist evaluates the individual, it's entirely possible for an individual especially if a psychopath or sociopath to lie, as both have a general lack of empathy, to give no ques of maladaptive intent.
Edit: fixed some typos...again.
[quote=d_b][quote=Rainman][quote=Cribby][url=http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/06/19/poll-what-is-your-favourite-american-shooting-so-far-this-year/]A sad state of affairs.[/url][/quote]
Holy shit why would they even put this together[/quote]
pretty clear its a statement on the ridic amount of gun crime in the us compared to any other 1st world country[/quote]
That's still fucked.
CribbyA sad state of affairs.
Holy shit why would they even put this together
[quote=Cribby][url=http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/06/19/poll-what-is-your-favourite-american-shooting-so-far-this-year/]A sad state of affairs.[/url][/quote]
Holy shit why would they even put this together
Holy shit why would they even put this together
RainmanCribbyA sad state of affairs.
Holy shit why would they even put this together
pretty clear its a statement on the ridic amount of gun crime in the us compared to any other 1st world country
[quote=Rainman][quote=Cribby][url=http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/06/19/poll-what-is-your-favourite-american-shooting-so-far-this-year/]A sad state of affairs.[/url][/quote]
Holy shit why would they even put this together[/quote]
pretty clear its a statement on the ridic amount of gun crime in the us compared to any other 1st world country
Holy shit why would they even put this together[/quote]
pretty clear its a statement on the ridic amount of gun crime in the us compared to any other 1st world country
CribbyA sad state of affairs.
I feel like it would be exaggeration to call all of those mass shootings
[quote=Cribby][url=http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/06/19/poll-what-is-your-favourite-american-shooting-so-far-this-year/]A sad state of affairs.[/url][/quote]
I feel like it would be exaggeration to call all of those mass shootings
I feel like it would be exaggeration to call all of those mass shootings
loljkTurinuhh Sociopaths and Psychopaths can plan and execute such attacks, not all mental illness completely incapacitates people. He, like every other mass murderer in history, is probably completely fucked mentally. However, this gives him no excuse as he was a racist who shot up a place. He deserves whatever punishment he gets, and it should be harsh.
My point is merely that calling someone crazy is less an explanation of why someone did something and more a judgement of whether you think their act was bad. Many intellectuals, artists, scientists, people who do exceptional things are extremely fanatical/anti social/ moody/ difficult/ strange but they are not deemed crazy because what they are doing is either harmless or in some cases beneficial to others. It just seems that in the colloquial sense the term 'crazy' is just an exclamation rather than an explanation for why people do the things they do. So there is no real worth in calling people crazy when they do heinous acts. Moreover if the shooter really was so obviously 'crazy' then someone would have taken steps to stop him before hand, but they didn't.
yeah the problem is that in this country people DONT take the steps to stop people like this beforehand. The mental health system is literally built around selling prescriptions to people no matter the side effects or efficacy. There is no real effort put into actually helping people with urges like these.
[quote=loljk][quote=Turin]uhh Sociopaths and Psychopaths can plan and execute such attacks, not all mental illness completely incapacitates people. He, like every other mass murderer in history, is probably completely fucked mentally. However, this gives him [u][b]no[/b][/u] excuse as he was a racist who shot up a place. He deserves whatever punishment he gets, and it should be harsh.[/quote]
My point is merely that calling someone crazy is less an explanation of why someone did something and more a judgement of whether you think their act was bad. Many intellectuals, artists, scientists, people who do exceptional things are extremely fanatical/anti social/ moody/ difficult/ strange but they are not deemed crazy because what they are doing is either harmless or in some cases beneficial to others. It just seems that in the colloquial sense the term 'crazy' is just an exclamation rather than an explanation for why people do the things they do. So there is no real worth in calling people crazy when they do heinous acts. Moreover if the shooter really was so obviously 'crazy' then someone would have taken steps to stop him before hand, but they didn't.[/quote]
yeah the problem is that in this country people DONT take the steps to stop people like this beforehand. The mental health system is literally built around selling prescriptions to people no matter the side effects or efficacy. There is no real effort put into actually helping people with urges like these.
My point is merely that calling someone crazy is less an explanation of why someone did something and more a judgement of whether you think their act was bad. Many intellectuals, artists, scientists, people who do exceptional things are extremely fanatical/anti social/ moody/ difficult/ strange but they are not deemed crazy because what they are doing is either harmless or in some cases beneficial to others. It just seems that in the colloquial sense the term 'crazy' is just an exclamation rather than an explanation for why people do the things they do. So there is no real worth in calling people crazy when they do heinous acts. Moreover if the shooter really was so obviously 'crazy' then someone would have taken steps to stop him before hand, but they didn't.[/quote]
yeah the problem is that in this country people DONT take the steps to stop people like this beforehand. The mental health system is literally built around selling prescriptions to people no matter the side effects or efficacy. There is no real effort put into actually helping people with urges like these.
Like 80% of those were just injuries and like, it doesn't say what kind of shooting.
What if it was an accidental discharge? Under their criteria, it counts.
What about self defense? Under their criteria, it counts.
The fact that it has like 70% as "unknown" makes it reek of BS, as the FBI states that 2/3rds of all murders/shootings are solved.
Like 80% of those were just injuries and like, it doesn't say what kind of shooting.
What if it was an accidental discharge? Under their criteria, it counts.
What about self defense? Under their criteria, it counts.
The fact that it has like 70% as "unknown" makes it reek of BS, as the FBI states that 2/3rds of all murders/shootings are solved.
What if it was an accidental discharge? Under their criteria, it counts.
What about self defense? Under their criteria, it counts.
The fact that it has like 70% as "unknown" makes it reek of BS, as the FBI states that 2/3rds of all murders/shootings are solved.
i honestly dont think theres that much to talk about i mean hes a bad dude but this doesnt really affect many people
i honestly dont think theres that much to talk about i mean hes a bad dude but this doesnt really affect many people
The mere fact that this came to pass in a CHURCH, a place of worship and peace, makes it even more degenerate and utterly vile. Probably the most fucked up and utterly disgusting crime in long while...
The mere fact that this came to pass in a CHURCH, a place of worship and peace, makes it even more degenerate and utterly vile. Probably the most fucked up and utterly disgusting crime in long while...
RainmanCribbyA sad state of affairs.
Holy shit why would they even put this together
It's satire.
[quote=Rainman][quote=Cribby][url=http://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2015/06/19/poll-what-is-your-favourite-american-shooting-so-far-this-year/]A sad state of affairs.[/url][/quote]
Holy shit why would they even put this together[/quote]
It's satire.
Holy shit why would they even put this together[/quote]
It's satire.
The media giving this attention kinda incentives deranged people looking for attention. These sort of people need to be identified and given help. http://i.imgur.com/xVJlQhs.gif
The media giving this attention kinda incentives deranged people looking for attention. These sort of people need to be identified and given help. http://i.imgur.com/xVJlQhs.gif
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maybe, just maybe, you shouldn't allow people to buy guns, America?
maybe, just maybe, you shouldn't allow people to buy guns, America?
why though, I mean I know it's in the constitution and it has a lot to do with the fact that your country was founded by the use of arms (settlers having to defend themselves against native Americans etc), but it's hard not to notice a correlation between the amount of school shootings etc and the fact that a large amount of your population is in the possession of something that is essentially a machine designed for murder.
why though, I mean I know it's in the constitution and it has a lot to do with the fact that your country was founded by the use of arms (settlers having to defend themselves against native Americans etc), but it's hard not to notice a correlation between the amount of school shootings etc and the fact that a large amount of your population is in the possession of something that is essentially a machine designed for murder.
wheatchampionwhy though, I mean I know it's in the constitution and it has a lot to do with the fact that your country was founded by the use of arms (settlers having to defend themselves against native Americans etc), but it's hard not to notice a correlation between the amount of school shootings etc and the fact that a large amount of your population is in the possession of something that is essentially a machine designed for murder.
A gun is fundamentally "man, there's a thing over there that I want killed, but I can't be bothered walking over/don't want to get close. How do I fix that?"
[quote=wheatchampion]why though, I mean I know it's in the constitution and it has a lot to do with the fact that your country was founded by the use of arms (settlers having to defend themselves against native Americans etc), but it's hard not to notice a correlation between the amount of school shootings etc and the fact that a large amount of your population is in the possession of something that is essentially a machine designed for murder.[/quote]
A gun is fundamentally "man, there's a thing over there that I want killed, but I can't be bothered walking over/don't want to get close. How do I fix that?"
A gun is fundamentally "man, there's a thing over there that I want killed, but I can't be bothered walking over/don't want to get close. How do I fix that?"
m0nkeishowstoppershits fucked bro, what the fuck is wrong with people
Mental illness is my strongest bet. No one with their right minds would do that.
75% or more of mass killers in the US have had a history of taking SSRI drugs (common drugs used to treat depression and anxiety).
You take a guy that is a racist and a loner, add some drugs to the mix, and you can have an insane killer!
Let's be real here. Anyone that is a full blown racist probably also has some serious mental issues.
wheatchampionmaybe, just maybe, you shouldn't allow people to buy guns, America?
wheatchampionwhy though, I mean I know it's in the constitution and it has a lot to do with the fact that your country was founded by the use of arms (settlers having to defend themselves against native Americans etc), but it's hard not to notice a correlation between the amount of school shootings etc and the fact that a large amount of your population is in the possession of something that is essentially a machine designed for murder.
Although I do think some measures should be taken to prevent these crazies from owning guns, the fact of the matter is that people are going to find a way to kill regardless of if a weapon is legal or not.
If someone wants to kill a bunch of people they could easily do more killing by mowing down a group of people in a heavy duty truck then with a gun.
I still fully support our second amendment rights. Guns can't kill, people kill. People defend themselves and save lives every single day because of guns.
We live in a day and age that if you simply banned all guns, the only people with guns would be the criminals and law enforcement. When someone is breaking into your house in the middle of the night though, that 911 call is already too late. Guns are becoming more and more available. Hell you can even 3D print guns. A $20K CNC machine could make most of the parts on a gun with ease.
[quote=m0nkei][quote=showstopper]shits fucked bro, what the fuck is wrong with people[/quote]
Mental illness is my strongest bet. No one with their right minds would do that.[/quote]
75% or more of mass killers in the US have had a history of taking SSRI drugs (common drugs used to treat depression and anxiety).
You take a guy that is a racist and a loner, add some drugs to the mix, and you can have an insane killer!
Let's be real here. Anyone that is a full blown racist probably also has some serious mental issues.
[quote=wheatchampion]maybe, just maybe, you shouldn't allow people to buy guns, America?[/quote]
[quote=wheatchampion]why though, I mean I know it's in the constitution and it has a lot to do with the fact that your country was founded by the use of arms (settlers having to defend themselves against native Americans etc), but it's hard not to notice a correlation between the amount of school shootings etc and the fact that a large amount of your population is in the possession of something that is essentially a machine designed for murder.[/quote]
Although I do think some measures should be taken to prevent these crazies from owning guns, the fact of the matter is that people are going to find a way to kill regardless of if a weapon is legal or not.
If someone wants to kill a bunch of people they could easily do more killing by mowing down a group of people in a heavy duty truck then with a gun.
I still fully support our second amendment rights. Guns can't kill, people kill. People defend themselves and save lives every single day because of guns.
We live in a day and age that if you simply banned all guns, the only people with guns would be the criminals and law enforcement. When someone is breaking into your house in the middle of the night though, that 911 call is already too late. Guns are becoming more and more available. Hell you can even 3D print guns. A $20K CNC machine could make most of the parts on a gun with ease.
Mental illness is my strongest bet. No one with their right minds would do that.[/quote]
75% or more of mass killers in the US have had a history of taking SSRI drugs (common drugs used to treat depression and anxiety).
You take a guy that is a racist and a loner, add some drugs to the mix, and you can have an insane killer!
Let's be real here. Anyone that is a full blown racist probably also has some serious mental issues.
[quote=wheatchampion]maybe, just maybe, you shouldn't allow people to buy guns, America?[/quote]
[quote=wheatchampion]why though, I mean I know it's in the constitution and it has a lot to do with the fact that your country was founded by the use of arms (settlers having to defend themselves against native Americans etc), but it's hard not to notice a correlation between the amount of school shootings etc and the fact that a large amount of your population is in the possession of something that is essentially a machine designed for murder.[/quote]
Although I do think some measures should be taken to prevent these crazies from owning guns, the fact of the matter is that people are going to find a way to kill regardless of if a weapon is legal or not.
If someone wants to kill a bunch of people they could easily do more killing by mowing down a group of people in a heavy duty truck then with a gun.
I still fully support our second amendment rights. Guns can't kill, people kill. People defend themselves and save lives every single day because of guns.
We live in a day and age that if you simply banned all guns, the only people with guns would be the criminals and law enforcement. When someone is breaking into your house in the middle of the night though, that 911 call is already too late. Guns are becoming more and more available. Hell you can even 3D print guns. A $20K CNC machine could make most of the parts on a gun with ease.
dollarlayerYou take a guy that is a racist and a loner, add some drugs to the mix, and you can have an insane killer!
Let's be real here. Anyone that is a full blown racist probably also has some serious mental issues.
Although I do think some measures should be taken to prevent these crazies from owning guns, the fact of the matter is that people are going to find a way to kill regardless of if a weapon is legal or not.
If someone wants to kill a bunch of people they could easily do more killing by mowing down a group of people in a heavy duty truck then with a gun.
I still fully support our second amendment rights. Guns can't kill, people kill, and people can and do defend themselves and save lives every single day because of guns.
You forgot to mention that the US is not only the #1 in gun owning per capita but ALSO #1 in illegal export of firearms to other countries, primarily to central and south america, you know the place with all of the drugs and cartels? Yeah the same place that the US government declared war on, you guys are causing or at least allowing a good 80% of that shit to go down just because "but mah gun rights" and "nah guns (things that are specifically engineered and created to kill the most things with the least effort) yeah those things don't kill people, not at all". Also i really have to ask if you feel so unsafe around where you live that you HAVE to have equipment thats is specifically made to "protect" (kill) people why the fuck do you live there? Its like not eating anything and then wondering why you have no energy... or better yet its like stuffing yourself obese and then wondering why your healthcare system is so fucked.
Im sorry i know that there is nothing anyone can say or do because the US likes to think thats its a special snowflake or some shit and has special benefits to X Y or Z but if i (and almost any other sane person, correct me if i am wrong) was living in a place that i was so afraid of everyone around me i wouldn't stay there and try to justify it id fuckign leave. Its like some huge Stockholm syndrome for the entire country shits fucked.
[quote=dollarlayer]
You take a guy that is a racist and a loner, add some drugs to the mix, and you can have an insane killer!
Let's be real here. Anyone that is a full blown racist probably also has some serious mental issues.
Although I do think some measures should be taken to prevent these crazies from owning guns, the fact of the matter is that people are going to find a way to kill regardless of if a weapon is legal or not.
If someone wants to kill a bunch of people they could easily do more killing by mowing down a group of people in a heavy duty truck then with a gun.
I still fully support our second amendment rights. Guns can't kill, people kill, and people can and do defend themselves and save lives every single day because of guns.[/quote]
You forgot to mention that the US is not only the #1 in gun owning per capita but ALSO #1 in illegal export of firearms to other countries, primarily to central and south america, you know the place with all of the drugs and cartels? Yeah the same place that the US government declared war on, you guys are causing or at least allowing a good 80% of that shit to go down just because "but mah gun rights" and "nah guns (things that are specifically engineered and created to kill the most things with the least effort) yeah those things don't kill people, not at all". Also i really have to ask if you feel so unsafe around where you live that you HAVE to have equipment thats is specifically made to "protect" (kill) people why the fuck do you live there? Its like not eating anything and then wondering why you have no energy... or better yet its like stuffing yourself obese and then wondering why your healthcare system is so fucked.
Im sorry i know that there is nothing anyone can say or do because the US likes to think thats its a special snowflake or some shit and has special benefits to X Y or Z but if i (and almost any other sane person, correct me if i am wrong) was living in a place that i was so afraid of everyone around me i wouldn't stay there and try to justify it id fuckign leave. Its like some huge Stockholm syndrome for the entire country shits fucked.
You take a guy that is a racist and a loner, add some drugs to the mix, and you can have an insane killer!
Let's be real here. Anyone that is a full blown racist probably also has some serious mental issues.
Although I do think some measures should be taken to prevent these crazies from owning guns, the fact of the matter is that people are going to find a way to kill regardless of if a weapon is legal or not.
If someone wants to kill a bunch of people they could easily do more killing by mowing down a group of people in a heavy duty truck then with a gun.
I still fully support our second amendment rights. Guns can't kill, people kill, and people can and do defend themselves and save lives every single day because of guns.[/quote]
You forgot to mention that the US is not only the #1 in gun owning per capita but ALSO #1 in illegal export of firearms to other countries, primarily to central and south america, you know the place with all of the drugs and cartels? Yeah the same place that the US government declared war on, you guys are causing or at least allowing a good 80% of that shit to go down just because "but mah gun rights" and "nah guns (things that are specifically engineered and created to kill the most things with the least effort) yeah those things don't kill people, not at all". Also i really have to ask if you feel so unsafe around where you live that you HAVE to have equipment thats is specifically made to "protect" (kill) people why the fuck do you live there? Its like not eating anything and then wondering why you have no energy... or better yet its like stuffing yourself obese and then wondering why your healthcare system is so fucked.
Im sorry i know that there is nothing anyone can say or do because the US likes to think thats its a special snowflake or some shit and has special benefits to X Y or Z but if i (and almost any other sane person, correct me if i am wrong) was living in a place that i was so afraid of everyone around me i wouldn't stay there and try to justify it id fuckign leave. Its like some huge Stockholm syndrome for the entire country shits fucked.
Yeah, whenever I see stuff like this I think back to the Onion: "'There's nothing we can do to stop mass shootings!', says the only country in which it regularly happens."
Yeah, whenever I see stuff like this I think back to the Onion: "'There's nothing we can do to stop mass shootings!', says the only country in which it regularly happens."
The guy had a bowl cut, of course he's a psychopath.
The guy had a bowl cut, of course he's a psychopath.
Can't madman get a gun everywhere if he wants, especially if he has nothing to lose?
I know where to get a gun in Poland and we are ranked 141th in the number of guns per capita.
Can't madman get a gun everywhere if he wants, especially if he has nothing to lose?
I know where to get a gun in Poland and we are ranked 141th in the number of guns per capita.
I know where to get a gun in Poland and we are ranked 141th in the number of guns per capita.
Jon Stewart had a remarkable monologue on this shooting -
Jon Stewart had a remarkable monologue on this shooting - [youtube]https://youtu.be/LJl9iqnvkOE[/youtube]
wheatchampionmaybe, just maybe, you shouldn't allow people to buy guns, America?
Rape is a big issue so let's cut off every man's dick
That's what you're saying
[quote=wheatchampion]maybe, just maybe, you shouldn't allow people to buy guns, America?[/quote]
Rape is a big issue so let's cut off every man's dick
That's what you're saying
Rape is a big issue so let's cut off every man's dick
That's what you're saying
Getawhalewheatchampionmaybe, just maybe, you shouldn't allow people to buy guns, America?
Rape is a big issue so let's cut off every man's dick
That's what you're saying
That's a really false analogy.
Also, props for taking the gun = penis equivalence without irony.
[quote=Getawhale][quote=wheatchampion]maybe, just maybe, you shouldn't allow people to buy guns, America?[/quote]
Rape is a big issue so let's cut off every man's dick
That's what you're saying[/quote]
That's a really false analogy.
Also, props for taking the gun = penis equivalence without irony.
Rape is a big issue so let's cut off every man's dick
That's what you're saying[/quote]
That's a really false analogy.
Also, props for taking the gun = penis equivalence without irony.
Tino_Also i really have to ask if you feel so unsafe around where you live that you HAVE to have equipment thats is specifically made to "protect" (kill) people why the fuck do you live there?
In 2006, Canada had a crime rate of 7,518 incidents per 100,000 people. Which would mean that you personally have a decent chance of running into a criminal. Although most crimes in the US and Canada are property related crimes, and much fewer are homicidal, I personally still like knowing that I can protect myself, my family and my property if needed. Do I ever want to have to use a firearm to protect myself? Hell no. But just having it would scare the shit out of any unarmed criminal.
What would you do if someone breaks into your house at night, or tries to steal your car or some other personal property? Chase them away with a garden hose?
I would say that yes, even in Canada that the crime rate is significant enough to concern yourself with your own protection and protection of your property. Lets say 7.5K of 100K, is roughly 8%. Lets assume that half of these cases result in some kind of confrontation with the criminal. So that would put the % at roughly 4% chance per year, or on average you will face a criminal once per ~25 years.
Oh and yes, overall crime rate is higher at around 11K per 100K in the US. Could part of that be perhaps because of the number of illegal immigrants in this country? I don't think Canada has near the border issues that we have.
Tino_if i was living in a place that i was so afraid of everyone around me i wouldn't stay there and try to justify it id fuckign leave.
I'm not afraid at all where I live. I live in a great neighborhood and sleep peacefully and never really fear crime. However the brainless mentality of not being prepared and thinking "that will never happen to me" is why many people will become victims when they could have otherwise prevented the incident in many cases. If you can't have a firearm for goodness sake at least have some kind of self defense at your home, weather that be your gradfathers golf club, a big bright heavy flashlight (like a maglite), some pepper spray (if legal in your area) etc.
Getawhalewheatchampionmaybe, just maybe, you shouldn't allow people to buy guns, America?
Rape is a big issue so let's cut off every man's dick
That's what you're saying
The problem is not the tool, it is the person. This applies to guns and dicks.
CHERRYCan't madman get a gun everywhere if he wants, especially if he has nothing to lose?
I know where to get a gun in Poland and we are ranked 141th in the number of guns per capita.
Yea there are always blackmarket sources in any country. You might have to pay 10x as much, but just about anyone with motive could figure out how to obtain one. A friend of mine that lived in the Philippians was telling me about how after living there for 2 years he knew how to illegally obtain a firearm and ammo. Was quite expensive but for a crazy person with a motive, it wouldn't stop them.
[quote=Tino_]Also i really have to ask if you feel so unsafe around where you live that you HAVE to have equipment thats is specifically made to "protect" (kill) people why the fuck do you live there?[/quote]
In 2006, Canada had a crime rate of 7,518 incidents per 100,000 people. Which would mean that you personally have a decent chance of running into a criminal. Although most crimes in the US and Canada are property related crimes, and much fewer are homicidal, I personally still like knowing that I can protect myself, my family and my property if needed. Do I ever want to have to use a firearm to protect myself? Hell no. But just having it would scare the shit out of any unarmed criminal.
What would you do if someone breaks into your house at night, or tries to steal your car or some other personal property? Chase them away with a garden hose?
I would say that yes, even in Canada that the crime rate is significant enough to concern yourself with your own protection and protection of your property. Lets say 7.5K of 100K, is roughly 8%. Lets assume that half of these cases result in some kind of confrontation with the criminal. So that would put the % at roughly 4% chance per year, or on average you will face a criminal once per ~25 years.
Oh and yes, overall crime rate is higher at around 11K per 100K in the US. Could part of that be perhaps because of the number of illegal immigrants in this country? I don't think Canada has near the border issues that we have.
[quote=Tino_]if i was living in a place that i was so afraid of everyone around me i wouldn't stay there and try to justify it id fuckign leave.[/quote]
I'm not afraid at all where I live. I live in a great neighborhood and sleep peacefully and never really fear crime. However the brainless mentality of not being prepared and thinking "that will never happen to me" is why many people will become victims when they could have otherwise prevented the incident in many cases. If you can't have a firearm for goodness sake at least have some kind of self defense at your home, weather that be your gradfathers golf club, a big bright heavy flashlight (like a maglite), some pepper spray (if legal in your area) etc.
[quote=Getawhale][quote=wheatchampion]maybe, just maybe, you shouldn't allow people to buy guns, America?[/quote]
Rape is a big issue so let's cut off every man's dick
That's what you're saying[/quote]
The problem is not the tool, it is the person. This applies to guns and dicks.
[quote=CHERRY]Can't madman get a gun everywhere if he wants, especially if he has nothing to lose?
I know where to get a gun in Poland and we are ranked 141th in the number of guns per capita.[/quote]
Yea there are always blackmarket sources in any country. You might have to pay 10x as much, but just about anyone with motive could figure out how to obtain one. A friend of mine that lived in the Philippians was telling me about how after living there for 2 years he knew how to illegally obtain a firearm and ammo. Was quite expensive but for a crazy person with a motive, it wouldn't stop them.
In 2006, Canada had a crime rate of 7,518 incidents per 100,000 people. Which would mean that you personally have a decent chance of running into a criminal. Although most crimes in the US and Canada are property related crimes, and much fewer are homicidal, I personally still like knowing that I can protect myself, my family and my property if needed. Do I ever want to have to use a firearm to protect myself? Hell no. But just having it would scare the shit out of any unarmed criminal.
What would you do if someone breaks into your house at night, or tries to steal your car or some other personal property? Chase them away with a garden hose?
I would say that yes, even in Canada that the crime rate is significant enough to concern yourself with your own protection and protection of your property. Lets say 7.5K of 100K, is roughly 8%. Lets assume that half of these cases result in some kind of confrontation with the criminal. So that would put the % at roughly 4% chance per year, or on average you will face a criminal once per ~25 years.
Oh and yes, overall crime rate is higher at around 11K per 100K in the US. Could part of that be perhaps because of the number of illegal immigrants in this country? I don't think Canada has near the border issues that we have.
[quote=Tino_]if i was living in a place that i was so afraid of everyone around me i wouldn't stay there and try to justify it id fuckign leave.[/quote]
I'm not afraid at all where I live. I live in a great neighborhood and sleep peacefully and never really fear crime. However the brainless mentality of not being prepared and thinking "that will never happen to me" is why many people will become victims when they could have otherwise prevented the incident in many cases. If you can't have a firearm for goodness sake at least have some kind of self defense at your home, weather that be your gradfathers golf club, a big bright heavy flashlight (like a maglite), some pepper spray (if legal in your area) etc.
[quote=Getawhale][quote=wheatchampion]maybe, just maybe, you shouldn't allow people to buy guns, America?[/quote]
Rape is a big issue so let's cut off every man's dick
That's what you're saying[/quote]
The problem is not the tool, it is the person. This applies to guns and dicks.
[quote=CHERRY]Can't madman get a gun everywhere if he wants, especially if he has nothing to lose?
I know where to get a gun in Poland and we are ranked 141th in the number of guns per capita.[/quote]
Yea there are always blackmarket sources in any country. You might have to pay 10x as much, but just about anyone with motive could figure out how to obtain one. A friend of mine that lived in the Philippians was telling me about how after living there for 2 years he knew how to illegally obtain a firearm and ammo. Was quite expensive but for a crazy person with a motive, it wouldn't stop them.
idk i wouldnt fucking shoot someone for breaking into my house
idk i wouldnt fucking shoot someone for breaking into my house
Getawhalewheatchampionmaybe, just maybe, you shouldn't allow people to buy guns, America?
Rape is a big issue so let's cut off every man's dick
That's what you're saying
I think the analogy doesn't carry over well. The conservative Australian government, after the Port Arthur shooting, had initiated a massive buyback of all semi automatic weapons, and got massive gun control legislation passed. As a result, the number of mass shootings and gun related homicides had decreased massively.And Im sure Australians feel as free as America, except that they're more secure.
[quote=Getawhale][quote=wheatchampion]maybe, just maybe, you shouldn't allow people to buy guns, America?[/quote]
Rape is a big issue so let's cut off every man's dick
That's what you're saying[/quote]
I think the analogy doesn't carry over well. The conservative Australian government, after the Port Arthur shooting, had initiated a massive buyback of all semi automatic weapons, and got massive gun control legislation passed. As a result, the number of mass shootings and gun related homicides had decreased massively.And Im sure Australians feel as free as America, except that they're more secure.
Rape is a big issue so let's cut off every man's dick
That's what you're saying[/quote]
I think the analogy doesn't carry over well. The conservative Australian government, after the Port Arthur shooting, had initiated a massive buyback of all semi automatic weapons, and got massive gun control legislation passed. As a result, the number of mass shootings and gun related homicides had decreased massively.And Im sure Australians feel as free as America, except that they're more secure.
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