dummyMedRedWhen i55 is over, I will post the series of events that lead up to now. You will see it is FAR more than Ash and showstopper using nigger. It is far more than getting "offended by anything anyone says on the internet." I'll leave it at that. Back to your regularly scheduled program.
you have lost your mind
this had better be the juiciest post or you're busted
[quote=dummy][quote=MedRed]When i55 is over, I will post the series of events that lead up to now. You will see it is FAR more than Ash and showstopper using nigger. It is far more than getting "offended by anything anyone says on the internet." I'll leave it at that. Back to your regularly scheduled program.[/quote]
you have lost your mind[/quote]
this had better be the juiciest post or you're busted
MedRedCorsaMedRedWhen i55 is over, I will post the series of events that lead up to now. You will see it is FAR more than Ash and showstopper using nigger. It is far more than getting "offended by anything anyone says on the internet." I'll leave it at that. Back to your regularly scheduled program.
Banny was nice enough to give you a refund. The least you could do is actually explain why you fee this way.
b4nny did the right thing because I was doing the right thing.
was
now its just petty and vindictive
[quote=MedRed][quote=Corsa][quote=MedRed]When i55 is over, I will post the series of events that lead up to now. You will see it is FAR more than Ash and showstopper using nigger. It is far more than getting "offended by anything anyone says on the internet." I'll leave it at that. Back to your regularly scheduled program.[/quote]
Banny was nice enough to give you a refund. The least you could do is actually explain why you fee this way.[/quote]
b4nny did the right thing because I was doing the right thing.[/quote]
was
now its just petty and vindictive
this kid feels like he's god because he's the only person with a lot of money who cares about this game
your money is literally the only reason anyone gives a fuck about what you think
this kid feels like he's god because he's the only person with a lot of money who cares about this game
your money is literally the only reason anyone gives a fuck about what you think
alec_this kid feels like he's god because he's the only person with a lot of money who cares about this game
your money is literally the only reason anyone gives a fuck about what you think
xothis is so dumb. You leave this much power to one guy, he's bound to abuse it and throw it around. Though, this was really in any one's power whom donated a ton of money to the fundraiser, but they chose not to do this. I don't agree with anyone's decision. The decision with the least amount of fuckery/drama would have been to just get over ash's racist remarks.
It's very interesting to watch people weigh in on the situation without the facts. You realize I've donated in excess of $7k to streamers since January right? I am mod on ZERO of their streams. At one point, Duwatna and I had a falling out and I never would have dreamed of hanging anything I've donated over his head. The only things I have ever asked for from any of the streamers in return for donations is that they do their best to win scrims/matches and for Duwatna to bake me a batch of cookies. The only time I ever asked for special treatment based on money I donated was in asking b4nny to divulge to me their soldier resolution after hearing rumors that they were going to pick up Ash. B4nny refused, and even then I refrained from using my donations ($1,100 to b4nny and $1,337 to his team) to force them not to pick up Carter. Maybe I should have, but I am not Froyo's sponsor and feel I should have no say so in how b4nny runs his team.
[quote=alec_]this kid feels like he's god because he's the only person with a lot of money who cares about this game
your money is literally the only reason anyone gives a fuck about what you think[/quote]
[quote=xo]this is so dumb. You leave this much power to one guy, he's bound to abuse it and throw it around. Though, this was really in any one's power whom donated a ton of money to the fundraiser, but they chose not to do this. I don't agree with anyone's decision. The decision with the least amount of fuckery/drama would have been to just get over ash's racist remarks.[/quote]
It's very interesting to watch people weigh in on the situation without the facts. You realize I've donated in excess of $7k to streamers since January right? I am mod on ZERO of their streams. At one point, Duwatna and I had a falling out and I never would have dreamed of hanging anything I've donated over his head. The only things I have ever asked for from any of the streamers in return for donations is that they do their best to win scrims/matches and for Duwatna to bake me a batch of cookies. The only time I ever asked for special treatment based on money I donated was in asking b4nny to divulge to me their soldier resolution after hearing rumors that they were going to pick up Ash. B4nny refused, and even then I refrained from using my donations ($1,100 to b4nny and $1,337 to his team) to force them not to pick up Carter. Maybe I should have, but I am not Froyo's sponsor and feel I should have no say so in how b4nny runs his team.
alec_this kid feels like he's god because he's the only person with a lot of money who cares about this game
your money is literally the only reason anyone gives a fuck about what you think
Harsh, but true.
[quote=alec_]this kid feels like he's god because he's the only person with a lot of money who cares about this game
your money is literally the only reason anyone gives a fuck about what you think[/quote]
Harsh, but true.
Nobody CARES how much you've donated to streamers dude
have you done anything in this community that doesnt involve piles of cash
Nobody CARES how much you've donated to streamers dude
have you done anything in this community that doesnt involve piles of cash
What exactly are people trying to accomplish by trying to doubt or question MedRed's reasoning for refunding the money? It's a lot of money he didn't have to give to the community and if he no longer wants to donate to a team with a new addition he doesn't like then a refund is completely understandable. Backlash on the people who want refunds just because the community cares more about Froyo playing at i55 than the fundraiser donors isn't going to bring that money back and it certainly won't encourage people to donate for these events.
What exactly are people trying to accomplish by trying to doubt or question MedRed's reasoning for refunding the money? It's a lot of money he didn't have to give to the community and if he no longer wants to donate to a team with a new addition he doesn't like then a refund is completely understandable. Backlash on the people who want refunds just because the community cares more about Froyo playing at i55 than the fundraiser donors isn't going to bring that money back and it certainly won't encourage people to donate for these events.
"i throw my cash around, listen to my opinion!"
"i throw my cash around, listen to my opinion!"
MedRedB4nny refused, and even then I refrained from using my donations ($1,100 to b4nny and $1,337 to his team) to force them not to pick up Carter. Maybe I should have, but I am not Froyo's sponsor and feel I should have no say so in how b4nny runs his team.
so you didnt use money to force b4nny to remove ash. then you take away money to make ash look like a villain and change the roster. MOTIVES QUESTIONED.
[quote=MedRed]
B4nny refused, and even then I refrained from using my donations ($1,100 to b4nny and $1,337 to his team) to force them not to pick up Carter. Maybe I should have, but I am not Froyo's sponsor and feel I should have no say so in how b4nny runs his team.[/quote]
so you didnt use money to force b4nny to remove ash. then you take away money to make ash look like a villain and change the roster. MOTIVES QUESTIONED.
yo medred if u wanna support the black tf2 community hit me and ringo up on http://www.twitch.tv/kevs2 and http://www.twitch.tv/ringostarrystarr
we appreciate u fighting the good fight for us
yo medred if u wanna support the black tf2 community hit me and ringo up on http://www.twitch.tv/kevs2 and http://www.twitch.tv/ringostarrystarr
we appreciate u fighting the good fight for us
the money is cool and all and his actions were justified, but he's a weird narcissistic retard is all
the money is cool and all and his actions were justified, but he's a weird narcissistic retard is all
bowswer5What exactly are people trying to accomplish by trying to doubt or question MedRed's reasoning for refunding the money? It's a lot of money he didn't have to give to the community and if he no longer wants to donate to a team with a new addition he doesn't like then a refund is completely understandable. Backlash on the people who want refunds just because the community cares more about Froyo playing at i55 than the fundraiser donors isn't going to bring that money back and it certainly won't encourage people to donate for these events.
I don't care about his decision to refund the money, in fact i can respect it, but he's making himself into a fucking martyr over it well after the fact and trying to stay relevant after they move on without him
[quote=bowswer5]What exactly are people trying to accomplish by trying to doubt or question MedRed's reasoning for refunding the money? It's a lot of money he didn't have to give to the community and if he no longer wants to donate to a team with a new addition he doesn't like then a refund is completely understandable. Backlash on the people who want refunds just because the community cares more about Froyo playing at i55 than the fundraiser donors isn't going to bring that money back and it certainly won't encourage people to donate for these events.[/quote]
I don't care about his decision to refund the money, in fact i can respect it, but he's making himself into a fucking martyr over it well after the fact and trying to stay relevant after they move on without him
idk about you but donating lots of cash seems like a pretty big contribution to a community
idk about you but donating lots of cash seems like a pretty big contribution to a community
MedRedIt's very interesting to watch people weigh in on the situation without the facts. You realize I've donated in excess of $7k to streamers since January right? I am mod on ZERO of their streams.
all it took was 7000 dollars to realize u r completely lacking of memorable traits and features congrats dude
[quote=MedRed]It's very interesting to watch people weigh in on the situation without the facts. You realize I've donated in excess of $7k to streamers since January right? I am mod on ZERO of their streams.[/quote]
all it took was 7000 dollars to realize u r completely lacking of memorable traits and features congrats dude
bowswer5What exactly are people trying to accomplish by trying to doubt or question MedRed's reasoning for refunding the money? It's a lot of money he didn't have to give to the community and if he no longer wants to donate to a team with a new addition he doesn't like then a refund is completely understandable. Backlash on the people who want refunds just because the community cares more about Froyo playing at i55 than the fundraiser donors isn't going to bring that money back and it certainly won't encourage people to donate for these events.
It's not that simple. The execution of everything is more about his position in the community and attention. Look at how he recites his gaming resume (which only consists of how much money he donated) then even points out how he doesn't have mod in those streams? He places such importance in his "position" that somehow not having mod was relevant i guess?
A normal human being would have rescinded the donation, explained to froyo, and that would be the end of it.
[quote=bowswer5]What exactly are people trying to accomplish by trying to doubt or question MedRed's reasoning for refunding the money? It's a lot of money he didn't have to give to the community and if he no longer wants to donate to a team with a new addition he doesn't like then a refund is completely understandable. Backlash on the people who want refunds just because the community cares more about Froyo playing at i55 than the fundraiser donors isn't going to bring that money back and it certainly won't encourage people to donate for these events.[/quote]
It's not that simple. The execution of everything is more about his position in the community and attention. Look at how he recites his gaming resume (which only consists of how much money he donated) then even points out how he doesn't have mod in those streams? He places such importance in his "position" that somehow not having mod was relevant i guess?
A normal human being would have rescinded the donation, explained to froyo, and that would be the end of it.
Nothing to add really....
Just seeing who's down for some prophunt? I really have a hankering for some prophunt
Nothing to add really....
Just seeing who's down for some prophunt? I really have a hankering for some prophunt
TwilitlordNobody CARES how much you've donated to streamers dude
have you done anything in this community that doesnt involve piles of cash
You mean like playing the game since November 2007? Hosting the west coast players every night for two years on the Xbox 360 so they had a place to play with a good connection? Shoutcasting with eXtine in the TWL days? Sponsoring an early team without once asking them to do something because I was the sponsor? I guess it's not much, but it's something.
[quote=Twilitlord]Nobody CARES how much you've donated to streamers dude
have you done anything in this community that doesnt involve piles of cash[/quote]
You mean like playing the game since November 2007? Hosting the west coast players every night for two years on the Xbox 360 so they had a place to play with a good connection? Shoutcasting with eXtine in the TWL days? Sponsoring an early team without once asking them to do something because I was the sponsor? I guess it's not much, but it's something.
I might not agree with everything MedRed says, by once you donate more than a thousand dollars to _anyone_, its normal to expect, if not some professionalism, but some decency from them. If not anything, this discussion could be a reminder to ourselves to maintain that same decency, which surely goes a long way for a healthy competitive TF2 scene.
Also, stop with all the shitposting and personal insults. It does nothing but derail the whole discussion.
I might not agree with everything MedRed says, by once you donate more than a thousand dollars to _anyone_, its normal to expect, if not some professionalism, but some decency from them. If not anything, this discussion could be a reminder to ourselves to maintain that same decency, which surely goes a long way for a healthy competitive TF2 scene.
Also, stop with all the shitposting and personal insults. It does nothing but derail the whole discussion.
This is stupid. Medred's refund is justified, but him thinking he has some kind of power over froyo is fucking pathetic. Just keep your money and shut up, it's in the past now.
This is stupid. Medred's refund is justified, but him thinking he has some kind of power over froyo is fucking pathetic. Just keep your money and shut up, it's in the past now.
Medred I will donate to you, if you divulge the dark secrets of the Vincent Files.
Medred I will donate to you, if you divulge the dark secrets of the Vincent Files.
ObiMedRedB4nny refused, and even then I refrained from using my donations ($1,100 to b4nny and $1,337 to his team) to force them not to pick up Carter. Maybe I should have, but I am not Froyo's sponsor and feel I should have no say so in how b4nny runs his team.
so you didnt use money to force b4nny to remove ash. then you take away money to make ash look like a villain and change the roster. MOTIVES QUESTIONED.
I tried my hardest to keep it under wraps. I didn't post a word and only talked to members of froyo, dashnerr, and eXtine. I never would have said Ash's name. Of course, gossip ensued. I've had many people recount their "through the grapevine" stories to me over the past couple of days. Many absurd, but none as egregious as reality. My intention was to keep it quiet.
[quote=Obi][quote=MedRed]
B4nny refused, and even then I refrained from using my donations ($1,100 to b4nny and $1,337 to his team) to force them not to pick up Carter. Maybe I should have, but I am not Froyo's sponsor and feel I should have no say so in how b4nny runs his team.[/quote]
so you didnt use money to force b4nny to remove ash. then you take away money to make ash look like a villain and change the roster. MOTIVES QUESTIONED.[/quote]
I tried my hardest to keep it under wraps. I didn't post a word and only talked to members of froyo, dashnerr, and eXtine. I never would have said Ash's name. Of course, gossip ensued. I've had many people recount their "through the grapevine" stories to me over the past couple of days. Many absurd, but none as egregious as reality. My intention was to keep it quiet.
vibhavpI might not agree with everything MedRed says, by once you donate more than a thousand dollars to _anyone_, its normal to expect, if not some professionalism, but some decency from them. If not anything, this discussion could be a reminder to ourselves to maintain that same decency, which surely goes a long way for a healthy competitive TF2 scene.
Also, stop with all the shitposting and personal insults. It does nothing but derail the whole discussion.
If he rescinded the donation, told them why he did it, then the moral of the story would be "the community doesn't put up with unprofessionalism/racist remarks" etc
the way he's executed it, its more like "I am a golden god for donating 7k to tf2, feel my wrath"
[quote=vibhavp]I might not agree with everything MedRed says, by once you donate more than a thousand dollars to _anyone_, its normal to expect, if not some professionalism, but some decency from them. If not anything, this discussion could be a reminder to ourselves to maintain that same decency, which surely goes a long way for a healthy competitive TF2 scene.
Also, stop with all the shitposting and personal insults. It does nothing but derail the whole discussion.[/quote]
If he rescinded the donation, told them why he did it, then the moral of the story would be "the community doesn't put up with unprofessionalism/racist remarks" etc
the way he's executed it, its more like "I am a golden god for donating 7k to tf2, feel my wrath"
drake wouldn't do this to us
drake wouldn't do this to us
dummybowswer5What exactly are people trying to accomplish by trying to doubt or question MedRed's reasoning for refunding the money? It's a lot of money he didn't have to give to the community and if he no longer wants to donate to a team with a new addition he doesn't like then a refund is completely understandable. Backlash on the people who want refunds just because the community cares more about Froyo playing at i55 than the fundraiser donors isn't going to bring that money back and it certainly won't encourage people to donate for these events.
It's not that simple. The execution of everything is more about his position in the community and attention. Look at how he recites his gaming resume (which only consists of how much money he donated) then even points out how he doesn't have mod in those streams? He places such importance in his "position" that somehow not having mod was relevant i guess?
A normal human being would have rescinded the donation, explained to froyo, and that would be the end of it.
That's exactly what I did.
[quote=dummy][quote=bowswer5]What exactly are people trying to accomplish by trying to doubt or question MedRed's reasoning for refunding the money? It's a lot of money he didn't have to give to the community and if he no longer wants to donate to a team with a new addition he doesn't like then a refund is completely understandable. Backlash on the people who want refunds just because the community cares more about Froyo playing at i55 than the fundraiser donors isn't going to bring that money back and it certainly won't encourage people to donate for these events.[/quote]
It's not that simple. The execution of everything is more about his position in the community and attention. Look at how he recites his gaming resume (which only consists of how much money he donated) then even points out how he doesn't have mod in those streams? He places such importance in his "position" that somehow not having mod was relevant i guess?
[b]A normal human being would have rescinded the donation, explained to froyo, and that would be the end of it.[/b][/quote]
That's exactly what I did.
medred can you stop making posts using the n word please
and no ur posting on the forums begging for more attention and drawing this out farther than it needs to be drawn out
medred can you stop making posts using the n word please
and no ur posting on the forums begging for more attention and drawing this out farther than it needs to be drawn out
MedRedWhen i55 is over, I will post the series of events that lead up to now. You will see it is FAR more than Ash and showstopper using nigger. It is far more than getting "offended by anything anyone says on the internet." I'll leave it at that. Back to your regularly scheduled program.
It would be completely pointless to post this after i55 when it's all said and done. Unless you're in it to open old wounds. If your motivation is to defend your actions to those who are currently questioning them then wouldn't now be the best time?
[quote=MedRed]When i55 is over, I will post the series of events that lead up to now. You will see it is FAR more than Ash and showstopper using nigger. It is far more than getting "offended by anything anyone says on the internet." I'll leave it at that. Back to your regularly scheduled program.[/quote]
It would be completely pointless to post this after i55 when it's all said and done. Unless you're in it to open old wounds. If your motivation is to defend your actions to those who are currently questioning them then wouldn't now be the best time?
I'm trying to decide whether ot not to donate 2 keys to Froyo can you explain what happened so I can make an informed decision.
I'm trying to decide whether ot not to donate 2 keys to Froyo can you explain what happened so I can make an informed decision.
The message was sent after withdrawing the donation and talking about it privately. It's obvious ash was told to say something public, but it's doesn't mean he isn't being sincere with his post.
It's sucks that sometimes people say hateful stuff, especially on stream. I personally don't think it automatically makes them a bad person, just immature. However, it would be nice if the racist and homophobic stuff was toned down more (at least on stream).
The message was sent after withdrawing the donation and talking about it privately. It's obvious ash was told to say something public, but it's doesn't mean he isn't being sincere with his post.
It's sucks that sometimes people say hateful stuff, especially on stream. I personally don't think it automatically makes them a bad person, just immature. However, it would be nice if the racist and homophobic stuff was toned down more (at least on stream).
1:30 AM - corsa: Wtf
1:30 AM - corsa: I was banned
okay admins if you guys are banning people for using the n word i think medred needs to be banned he has used it MULTIPLE times
1:30 AM - corsa: Wtf
1:30 AM - corsa: I was banned
okay admins if you guys are banning people for using the n word i think medred needs to be banned he has used it MULTIPLE times