nice one esea
ESEA S19 GF – Ascent vs. froyotech
posted in
Matches
To realize how ridiculous this is, I started watching the stream at 3 am local time, felt asleep at 4 something, woke up fucked up at 7 am with headphones still on blasting DARUDE and the fuckin stream is still going on and ITS NOT OVER YET, WHAT the HELL IS THIS.
To realize how ridiculous this is, I started watching the stream at 3 am local time, felt asleep at 4 something, woke up fucked up at 7 am with headphones still on blasting DARUDE and the fuckin stream is still going on and ITS NOT OVER YET, WHAT the HELL IS THIS.
yeah i just went back to my computer after watching the process game 2 hours ago and i see the second bo3 didn't start yet lmao
yeah i just went back to my computer after watching the process game 2 hours ago and i see the second bo3 didn't start yet lmao
and now watch it go to a third map and ESEA not ready for a third map and then the games break AGAIN and then ESEA has to make us play the third map on Monday and because they absolutely surely cannot play on Monday for serious guys this time!!! lpkane will say "fuck it" and kill tf2
and now watch it go to a third map and ESEA not ready for a third map and then the games break AGAIN and then ESEA has to make us play the third map on Monday and because they absolutely surely cannot play on Monday for serious guys this time!!! lpkane will say "fuck it" and kill tf2
legitimately some of the best TF2 ever and it gets ESEA'd.
legitimately some of the best TF2 ever and it gets ESEA'd.
ESEA is a fucking joke.
How is that acceptable? They rush the LBF into a BO1 because "time constraints" then when the Grand Finals is suddenly unplayable because servers werent ready and now SUDDENLY they are pushing the 2nd BO3?
Fuck that, people can counter-argue "NA has no other option" all day but if ESEA is seriously an option when this is what they do for the pinnacle of NA TF2. Time to look somewhere else, maybe getting CEVO back is a good start.
ESEA is a fucking joke.
How is that acceptable? They rush the LBF into a BO1 because "time constraints" then when the Grand Finals is suddenly unplayable because servers werent ready and now SUDDENLY they are pushing the 2nd BO3?
Fuck that, people can counter-argue "NA has no other option" all day but if ESEA is seriously an option when this is what they do for the pinnacle of NA TF2. Time to look somewhere else, maybe getting CEVO back is a good start.
How is that acceptable? They rush the LBF into a BO1 because "time constraints" then when the Grand Finals is suddenly unplayable because servers werent ready and now SUDDENLY they are pushing the 2nd BO3?
Fuck that, people can counter-argue "NA has no other option" all day but if ESEA is seriously an option when this is what they do for the pinnacle of NA TF2. Time to look somewhere else, maybe getting CEVO back is a good start.
Supposedly 4G wanted to play same maps tonight b/c shade cant play fri/sat and blaze cant play sun. Apparently there's still a chance it happens tonight
Supposedly 4G wanted to play same maps tonight b/c shade cant play fri/sat and blaze cant play sun. Apparently there's still a chance it happens tonight
This is probably the worst season of esea I have had the displeasure of playing in. I'm completely mind blown with the somehow lack of communication, preparation, and overall fairness that has gone on throughout this season. I honestly feel bad for five dollar club, we were scheduled to play last week but the client was still not updated after 3~ days (somehow??). So we had to reschedule to next week and then we were forced to play one map today instead of a bo3 so that there would be enough time for whoever moved on from LBF to play grand finals out and now we cant even play the second bo3 of grand finals because the servers werent set up LOL???
This is probably the worst season of esea I have had the displeasure of playing in. I'm completely mind blown with the somehow lack of communication, preparation, and overall fairness that has gone on throughout this season. I honestly feel bad for five dollar club, we were scheduled to play last week but the client was still not updated after 3~ days (somehow??). So we had to reschedule to next week and then we were forced to play one map today instead of a bo3 so that there would be enough time for whoever moved on from LBF to play grand finals out and now we cant even play the second bo3 of grand finals because the servers werent set up LOL???
the saddest part is that this doesn't even surprise people
the saddest part is that this doesn't even surprise people
According to Sideshow Ascent refused to play on Colorado because they want Froyo to have higher ping than them...
Edit: Read clockwork's post below
According to Sideshow Ascent refused to play on Colorado because they want Froyo to have higher ping than them...
Edit: Read clockwork's post below
Edit: Read clockwork's post below
Shoutout to tri for sending those urgent steam messages clarifying the profits (or lackthereof) for ESEA re: TF2 instead of addressing the community at any point in the last two weeks.
Shoutout to tri for sending those urgent steam messages clarifying the profits (or lackthereof) for ESEA re: TF2 instead of addressing the community at any point in the last two weeks.
deetrAccording to Sideshow Ascent refused to play on Colorado because they want Froyo to have higher ping than them...
ESEA said that there was a coinflip on what servers which series would be played on, Froyo won the coinflip so the first series would be on Colorado and the second set would be on Chi. They weren't supposed to both be on Colorado in the first place, so we didn't want to play both series on Colorado, it's not a malicious attempt to get ping advantage.
[quote=deetr]According to Sideshow Ascent refused to play on Colorado because they want Froyo to have higher ping than them...[/quote]
ESEA said that there was a coinflip on what servers which series would be played on, Froyo won the coinflip so the first series would be on Colorado and the second set would be on Chi. They weren't supposed to both be on Colorado in the first place, so we didn't want to play both series on Colorado, it's not a malicious attempt to get ping advantage.
ESEA said that there was a coinflip on what servers which series would be played on, Froyo won the coinflip so the first series would be on Colorado and the second set would be on Chi. They weren't supposed to both be on Colorado in the first place, so we didn't want to play both series on Colorado, it's not a malicious attempt to get ping advantage.
The argument revolves around the coinflip and that "their team is used to playing on chicago." The other server was supposed to be on chicago tonight. Regardless, we pointed out on colorado that player by player the pings are perfectly even with shrugger spiking to 80 at some point compared to mine and ash's 60. If it's on chicago, their soldiers' ping advantage will be...rather significant. We just want to equalize the pings on the server at 40-60 as if it were LAN and we were all playing with 5.
They're not trying to maliciously gain ping advantage, but it's just a different point of view on what's "fair." The coinflip, or the even pings player-by-player.
The argument revolves around the coinflip and that "their team is used to playing on chicago." The other server was supposed to be on chicago tonight. Regardless, we pointed out on colorado that player by player the pings are perfectly even with shrugger spiking to 80 at some point compared to mine and ash's 60. If it's on chicago, their soldiers' ping advantage will be...rather significant. We just want to equalize the pings on the server at 40-60 as if it were LAN and we were all playing with 5.
They're not trying to maliciously gain ping advantage, but it's just a different point of view on what's "fair." The coinflip, or the even pings player-by-player.
They're not trying to maliciously gain ping advantage, but it's just a different point of view on what's "fair." The coinflip, or the even pings player-by-player.
5-4 and 4-3 games
I say change it up... maybe we can get a tie...
5-4 and 4-3 games
I say change it up... maybe we can get a tie...
I say change it up... maybe we can get a tie...
Ma3laadeetrAccording to Sideshow Ascent refused to play on Colorado because they want Froyo to have higher ping than them...
ESEA said that there was a coinflip on what servers which series would be played on, Froyo won the coinflip so the first series would be on Colorado and the second set would be on Chi. They weren't supposed to both be on Colorado in the first place, so we didn't want to play both series on Colorado, it's not a malicious attempt to get ping advantage.
you'd rather follow ESEA (lol the fact that they have anything structured in that manner sounds like a lie, too planned ahead) then play the most even, equal final possible?
[quote=Ma3laa][quote=deetr]According to Sideshow Ascent refused to play on Colorado because they want Froyo to have higher ping than them...[/quote]
ESEA said that there was a coinflip on what servers which series would be played on, Froyo won the coinflip so the first series would be on Colorado and the second set would be on Chi. They weren't supposed to both be on Colorado in the first place, so we didn't want to play both series on Colorado, it's not a malicious attempt to get ping advantage.[/quote]
you'd rather follow ESEA (lol the fact that they have anything structured in that manner sounds like a lie, too planned ahead) then play the most even, equal final possible?
ESEA said that there was a coinflip on what servers which series would be played on, Froyo won the coinflip so the first series would be on Colorado and the second set would be on Chi. They weren't supposed to both be on Colorado in the first place, so we didn't want to play both series on Colorado, it's not a malicious attempt to get ping advantage.[/quote]
you'd rather follow ESEA (lol the fact that they have anything structured in that manner sounds like a lie, too planned ahead) then play the most even, equal final possible?
clckwrkThe argument revolves around the coinflip and that "their team is used to playing on chicago." The other server was supposed to be on chicago tonight. Regardless, we pointed out on colorado that player by player the pings are perfectly even with shrugger spiking to 80 at some point compared to mine and ash's 60. If it's on chicago, their soldiers' ping advantage will be...rather significant. We just want to equalize the pings on the server at 40-60 as if it were LAN and we were all playing with 5.
They're not trying to maliciously gain ping advantage, but it's just a different point of view on what's "fair." The coinflip, or the even pings player-by-player.
Thats fine and I can't not agree with you, I'd be ok with playing on either server if it really came down to it and we could actually have an opportunity to play the next set, not sure why the ping thing became a big problem anyway because that seemed to be how we all felt. I'm just trying to address the idea that it's from intent to gain an advantage in a malicious way.
[quote=clckwrk]The argument revolves around the coinflip and that "their team is used to playing on chicago." The other server was supposed to be on chicago tonight. Regardless, we pointed out on colorado that player by player the pings are perfectly even with shrugger spiking to 80 at some point compared to mine and ash's 60. If it's on chicago, their soldiers' ping advantage will be...rather significant. We just want to equalize the pings on the server at 40-60 as if it were LAN and we were all playing with 5.
They're not trying to maliciously gain ping advantage, but it's just a different point of view on what's "fair." The coinflip, or the even pings player-by-player.[/quote]
Thats fine and I can't not agree with you, I'd be ok with playing on either server if it really came down to it and we could actually have an opportunity to play the next set, not sure why the ping thing became a big problem anyway because that seemed to be how we all felt. I'm just trying to address the idea that it's from intent to gain an advantage in a malicious way.
They're not trying to maliciously gain ping advantage, but it's just a different point of view on what's "fair." The coinflip, or the even pings player-by-player.[/quote]
Thats fine and I can't not agree with you, I'd be ok with playing on either server if it really came down to it and we could actually have an opportunity to play the next set, not sure why the ping thing became a big problem anyway because that seemed to be how we all felt. I'm just trying to address the idea that it's from intent to gain an advantage in a malicious way.
Yeah I never said it was a deliberate malicious decision dunno how you guys read that into what I said. I said the admins wouldn't allow it.
Yeah I never said it was a deliberate malicious decision dunno how you guys read that into what I said. I said the admins wouldn't allow it.
it's fair because they all have even ping
but it's also unfair because no one has a fucking colorado server that they use for scrims so anybody who pings worse to colorado is literally given a handicap from their normal level of play and anyone who pings lower gets an advantage
froyo played all season on chicago with soldiers who had shit pings and scrimmed on either chicago or maybe dallas so why is it a problem for GF?
it's because despite it being even pings it is still an advantage to froyo
#whyyouneedLAN
it's fair because they all have even ping
but it's also unfair because no one has a fucking colorado server that they use for scrims so anybody who pings worse to colorado is literally given a handicap from their normal level of play and anyone who pings lower gets an advantage
froyo played all season on chicago with soldiers who had shit pings and scrimmed on either chicago or maybe dallas so why is it a problem for GF?
it's because despite it being even pings it is still an advantage to froyo
#whyyouneedLAN
but it's also unfair because no one has a fucking colorado server that they use for scrims so anybody who pings worse to colorado is literally given a handicap from their normal level of play and anyone who pings lower gets an advantage
froyo played all season on chicago with soldiers who had shit pings and scrimmed on either chicago or maybe dallas so why is it a problem for GF?
it's because despite it being even pings it is still an advantage to froyo
#whyyouneedLAN
Please
sign in through STEAM
to post a comment.