yo what the fuck how

what the fuck do you use F for

if you don't have to adjust then don't
if you use wasd and f is non-essential bind crouch to f or like g or r or something you can press with your index finger

I just put my fingers on those keys and i dont know what to say how did you do it

As long as you can control your movement keys separately from your crouch and jump keys there's no reason your setup shouldn't work. I personally can't do ctaps without my crouch being bound to mouse2.

Just keeping using the new keys if you really want to switch. That is basically it. Break the old habit and bring in the new by force. Stretch your fingers, they might tense up less in general. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiRC80FJbHU

Can you walk left while crouching?

Now to break your old habits you'll have to force it, I'm afraid.

bind space to crouch and m2 to jump or something and u can keep the rest of your movement keys the exact same and u can still do any combination of movements u need to strafe+crouch crouch+jump all 3 etc

Have you tried binding crouch to mouse2?

How do you have like IM dm with 45 fps, a toaster computer, a shitty mouse and the WORST movement keys I've ever heard of rofl

How to learn new habits:
Do them
Keep doing them
When you don't do them, do them instead
Repeat

Seriously, there's no fucking trick, just do it instead of asking how to do it.

I use F for inspecting, as part of my ctap script, and to fake ubers.

I can crouch and move left by holding SHIFT with my pinky and moving my ring finger from W to A.

I'm not sure if I have to change, but my ctap teacher says it's a requirement to really improve my jumps.

p.s. if you can make me a pro jumper please hmu

I will try some alternative mouse2 binds, thanks for the suggestions.

try surfing or something

yo dude same setup!!

my uber button is f. I think it makes some gamers palpably ill to hear. let me know if you find a miracle c-tap cure since i gave that dream up a long time ago

also how weird is this compared to smaka's set up, i dont remember what it was exactly but i think it was stranger than this one

I use a similar config- I use ESDF for movement, with my pinkie on A, which I've got bound to crouch. I also jump with mouse 2.

Try switching to ESDF for movement with crouch on A. It might help.

im going to be honest i put my fingers like you do and my hand fell off

if your only goal is to learn ctap jumps then an easy way is to bind crouch to right click

I remember when I used to do this. I thought that was the right way because it's how your left hand is setup when typing. For changing, you just have to deal with learning how to move again, I don't think there's any way to make the transition easier. Resurfed has bhop servers now so maybe that can help?

And yeah holy shit eric how are you so good even with your current setup, I am genuinely amazed.

damn i have the same setup except i use my palm to press ctrl

Yeah man I think you mistyped because it looks like you just said you use your palm to hit ctrl.

FWIW I use almost the same setup, with index finger on C for crouch instead, and have no issues jumping. This setup is a bit weird but does allow crouching and hitting strafe keys without moving fingers, something that could be limiting you in jump maps. Might be worth giving it this a go if you are determined to change but can't deal with a 'normal' setup

yeah i was gonna say if you used F to crouch and put your utility key on like R or C or something there's not too much wrong with your hand position. your pinky will never be as strong or dexterous as your index so it's probably slightly better on crouch for most people, but you shouldn't be too badly off

unrelated to ctap but i use my thumb on D, pointer finger on W, middle finger on A, ring finger to jump on caps locks and pinky to crouch on ctrl

Welp, you're still better off than Shintaz key bindings

Shintaz has the best settings: he also uses inverted mouse

i do the same thing lol, ive kind of given up on relearning it and just use f as push to talk
i kinda think that this makes my fingers more flexible honestly but eh

i use my palms to hit ctrl in tactical shooters but doing that in tf2 sounds ridiculous

Still not as bad as tox.cfg.