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Saloon.tf Acquired
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Geel9
September 17, 2015

Hey guys,

Myself (co-creator of Scrap.TF and Marketplace.TF) and Sneeza (the creator of TF2Outpost) collectively own Welp, LLC. You may know (well, you probably don't) Welp as the creators of SweetStakes.tf. Outside of that, I also co-own Scrap.TF, which is one of (if not the) most successful websites with regards to TF2.

Previously, SweetStakes.tf has sponsored the production crew of the i55 TFTV coverage, and we're looking forward to working with the competitive community further.

Welp has just acquired Saloon.tf from Cherry, and we're very optimistic about where we think we can take Saloon, both in terms of the site's growth but also how we can help grow the TF2 competitive scene into something truly great.

So what changes?
Immediately, nothing. All existing staff, moderators, etc. will (should they so choose) maintain their positions on Saloon. Cherry will be taking an advisory role for as long as he likes. We have a shortlist of improvements we want to make to the website, but they're all UX improvements, we don't have any immediate large structural changes planned.

Some changes I can confirm are related to how you deposit, bet and withdraw items (using the Sweetstakes item deposit system), as well as a more accurate pricing model for items (I understand there are some issues presently with item prices being inaccurate; we have plans to change this). We also plan to support unusual items in future.

Edit: to clarify, the "sweetstakes system" refers to how items are deposited, not the actual sweetstakes betting. You'll still bet the same as before!

Eventually, we plan to take a fee (~5%) from certain matches, but rest assured that this won't just go straight into our pockets. Sponsorships, fundraisers, etc. are all things we plan to support with Saloon. If you thought the i55 production was spot-on, let's see what we can do next year.

If you have any questions, feel free to post here. I'll try to answer whatever I can, within reason.

Thanks, Geel9

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Geelicon valley

Geelicon valley
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geel9Eventually, we plan to take a fee (~5%) ".." but rest assured that this won't just go straight into our pockets. Sponsorships, fundraisers, etc. are all things we plan to support with...

I heard another competitive site say that too Kappa

[quote=geel9]Eventually, we plan to take a fee (~5%) ".." but rest assured that this won't just go straight into our pockets. Sponsorships, fundraisers, etc. are all things we plan to support with...[/quote]

I heard another competitive site say that too Kappa
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kKaltUugeel9Eventually, we plan to take a fee (~5%) ".." but rest assured that this won't just go straight into our pockets. Sponsorships, fundraisers, etc. are all things we plan to support with...
I heard another competitive site say that too Kappa

ayy

I for one welcome our new geelish overlords

[quote=kKaltUu][quote=geel9]Eventually, we plan to take a fee (~5%) ".." but rest assured that this won't just go straight into our pockets. Sponsorships, fundraisers, etc. are all things we plan to support with...[/quote]

I heard another competitive site say that too Kappa[/quote]

ayy

I for one welcome our new geelish overlords
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#4
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Listen spud we get you have a monopoly on tf2 already there's no need to show off

Listen spud we get you have a monopoly on tf2 already there's no need to show off
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#5
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PunchyListen spud we get you have a monopoly on tf2 already there's no need to show off

enigma would like to have a word with you.

[quote=Punchy]Listen spud we get you have a monopoly on tf2 already there's no need to show off[/quote]

enigma would like to have a word with you.
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#6
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Geel has been very supportive of competitive TF2, hopefully he'll move saloon up and elevate it even further since there's so much potential there.

Geel has been very supportive of competitive TF2, hopefully he'll move saloon up and elevate it even further since there's so much potential there.
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huds.tf
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Why can't I find Welp LLC on Google please Help LLC

It's a good move for Saloon though

Why can't I find Welp LLC on Google please Help LLC

It's a good move for Saloon though
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#8
eXtelevision
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Always eXciting to hear such positive community news. Keep up the good work.

Always eXciting to hear such positive community news. Keep up the good work.
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#9
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I for one welcome our new Geel overlords

http://i.imgur.com/DsPTvId.jpg

I for one welcome our new Geel overlords
[img]http://i.imgur.com/DsPTvId.jpg[/img]
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you have been visit by geel of trade
traders supporting comp and esport will come to you but only if you type 'thnak mr scrap'

you have been visit by geel of trade
traders supporting comp and esport will come to you but only if you type 'thnak mr scrap'
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Ascent
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You guys should really put out a new saloon.tf trailer to show that its actually been released and works, the one that came out was released nearly a year before the site was even able to be used lol. Or just reupload the one huhy already made somewhere.

You guys should really put out a new saloon.tf trailer to show that its actually been released and works, the one that came out was released nearly a year before the site was even able to be used lol. Or just reupload the one huhy already made somewhere.
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thnak mr scrap

thnak mr scrap
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[code][/code]
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#14
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thnak mr scrap

thnak mr scrap
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thnak mr scrap

hopefully the new reach of saloon (advertising on scrap and sweepstakes maybe?) can help competitive tf2 the way lounge did for csgo, i don't think we've reached its full potential yet :)

thnak mr scrap

hopefully the new reach of saloon (advertising on scrap and sweepstakes maybe?) can help competitive tf2 the way lounge did for csgo, i don't think we've reached its full potential yet :)
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kKaltUugeel9Eventually, we plan to take a fee (~5%) ".." but rest assured that this won't just go straight into our pockets. Sponsorships, fundraisers, etc. are all things we plan to support with...
I heard another competitive site say that too Kappa

From my experience with Geel and marketplace/scrap this for now doesn't seem to be something to worry much about. Even if they did keep some of that, there is plenty of overhead and expenses that have to be paid for to run a site like Saloon. A company is in business to make profit, and that incentive helps drive them forward with cool new stuff that we all benefit from.

Geel sponsored our EVL Battle Royale with a prize pool of 250 keys. Even though our event only had a total of 150 participants he still was willing to help out, and our players and staff are very grateful for the support.

[quote=kKaltUu][quote=geel9]Eventually, we plan to take a fee (~5%) ".." but rest assured that this won't just go straight into our pockets. Sponsorships, fundraisers, etc. are all things we plan to support with...[/quote]

I heard another competitive site say that too Kappa[/quote]

From my experience with Geel and marketplace/scrap this for now doesn't seem to be something to worry much about. Even if they did keep some of that, there is plenty of overhead and expenses that have to be paid for to run a site like Saloon. A company is in business to make profit, and that incentive helps drive them forward with cool new stuff that we all benefit from.

Geel sponsored our EVL Battle Royale with a prize pool of 250 keys. Even though our event only had a total of 150 participants he still was willing to help out, and our players and staff are very grateful for the support.
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marketplace.tf
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Ma3laaYou guys should really put out a new saloon.tf trailer to show that its actually been released and works, the one that came out was released nearly a year before the site was even able to be used lol. Or just reupload the one huhy already made somewhere.

It's a possibility. Right now we need to focus on migrating everything and getting into a good flow.

[quote=Ma3laa]You guys should really put out a new saloon.tf trailer to show that its actually been released and works, the one that came out was released nearly a year before the site was even able to be used lol. Or just reupload the one huhy already made somewhere.[/quote]

It's a possibility. Right now we need to focus on migrating everything and getting into a good flow.
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#18
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Any plans to get the invite matches tonight added if possible?

Any plans to get the invite matches tonight added if possible?
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JohnMilterAny plans to get the invite matches tonight added if possible?

brooky just did that here.

[quote=JohnMilter]Any plans to get the invite matches tonight added if possible?[/quote]
brooky just did that [url=http://www.teamfortress.tv/post/487835/saloon-tf]here[/url].
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my first interaction with him on the Archimedes cup was an experience I won't forget any time soon. I was hoping we could arrange some sponsorship, I was hoping a few keys or something, Geel casually says "I could give you like $2,000", I nearly choked on my tea!

Geel is professional, intelligent and extremely generous, the right sort of fit for Saloon.tf to help take it to the next level. I can only imagine Geel & co's influence to be a beneficial thing for competitive TF2. More numbers, more viewers, more money and more support for TF2.
I encourage everybody to give Saloon as much feedback as possible during the changes in order to gain the best service possible from the website because I think it's going to be huge for this scene!

my first interaction with him on the Archimedes cup was an experience I won't forget any time soon. I was hoping we could arrange some sponsorship, I was hoping a few keys or something, Geel casually says "I could give you like $2,000", I nearly choked on my tea!

Geel is professional, intelligent and extremely generous, the right sort of fit for Saloon.tf to help take it to the next level. I can only imagine Geel & co's influence to be a beneficial thing for competitive TF2. More numbers, more viewers, more money and more support for TF2.
I encourage everybody to give Saloon as much feedback as possible during the changes in order to gain the best service possible from the website because I think it's going to be huge for this scene!
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#21
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its one thing that he has shitloads of hat money

its another thing that he uses that money to revive competitive tf2

its one thing that he has shitloads of hat money

its another thing that he uses that money to revive competitive tf2
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#22
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6 months ago i had never heard of geel

now he's putting all of comp tf2 on his back

what a god

6 months ago i had never heard of geel

now he's putting all of comp tf2 on his back

what a god
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marketplace.tf
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Hildrethmy first interaction with him on the Archimedes cup was an experience I won't forget any time soon. I was hoping we could arrange some sponsorship, I was hoping a few keys or something, Geel casually says "I could give you like $2,000", I nearly choked on my tea!

I remember that day. It's actually what inspired me to really get into the competitive scene. I felt then, as I do now, that $2,000 should NOT be "a lot" of money in the tf2 comp scene. I felt I was lowballing you guys at first. It'll take a while but I think we can get there.

[quote=Hildreth]my first interaction with him on the Archimedes cup was an experience I won't forget any time soon. I was hoping we could arrange some sponsorship, I was hoping a few keys or something, Geel casually says "I could give you like $2,000", I nearly choked on my tea!
[/quote]

I remember that day. It's actually what inspired me to really get into the competitive scene. I felt then, as I do now, that $2,000 should NOT be "a lot" of money in the tf2 comp scene. I felt I was lowballing you guys at first. It'll take a while but I think we can get there.
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Pretty good news in my eyes.
I'm really glad there's someone out there that's looking out for the scraps of competitive tf2 at the moment.

thnak mr scrap

Pretty good news in my eyes.
I'm really glad there's someone out there that's looking out for the [i]scraps[/i] of competitive tf2 at the moment.

thnak mr scrap
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thanks mr scraps

thanks mr scraps
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hear that permzilla better step up if you wanna kill this game anytime soon

http://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/91/1.0

hear that permzilla better step up if you wanna kill this game anytime soon [img]http://static-cdn.jtvnw.net/emoticons/v1/91/1.0[/img]
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Geel9Hildrethmy first interaction with him on the Archimedes cup was an experience I won't forget any time soon. I was hoping we could arrange some sponsorship, I was hoping a few keys or something, Geel casually says "I could give you like $2,000", I nearly choked on my tea!
I remember that day. It's actually what inspired me to really get into the competitive scene. I felt then, as I do now, that $2,000 should NOT be "a lot" of money in the tf2 comp scene. I felt I was lowballing you guys at first. It'll take a while but I think we can get there.

We need more people so awesome as this.
Traders supporting comp is fucking huge, especially if it is geel9 with literally full pockets to make comp huge.
I hope you have amazing day you great human being.

[quote=Geel9][quote=Hildreth]my first interaction with him on the Archimedes cup was an experience I won't forget any time soon. I was hoping we could arrange some sponsorship, I was hoping a few keys or something, Geel casually says "I could give you like $2,000", I nearly choked on my tea!
[/quote]

I remember that day. It's actually what inspired me to really get into the competitive scene. I felt then, as I do now, that $2,000 should NOT be "a lot" of money in the tf2 comp scene. I felt I was lowballing you guys at first. It'll take a while but I think we can get there.[/quote]

We need more people so awesome as this.
Traders supporting comp is fucking huge, especially if it is geel9 with literally full pockets to make comp huge.
I hope you have amazing day you great human being.
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#28
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thank mr scrap

competitive tf2 will be more popular than ever

thank mr scrap

competitive tf2 will be more popular than ever
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I have a bad feeling about this.
If you add possibility to use unusuals. Saloon will change too sweetstakes 2.
Imagine someone with unusual worth 200 keys, if he bet he will get everything. I know it's risky play. but the same thing already has happened on sweetstakes. In other words, saloon will change to another page where the rich get richer.

I have a bad feeling about this.
If you add possibility to use unusuals. Saloon will change too sweetstakes 2.
Imagine someone with unusual worth 200 keys, if he bet he will get everything. I know it's risky play. but the same thing already has happened on sweetstakes. In other words, saloon will change to another page where the rich get richer.
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The only problem I can see with unusuals is that if lets say the odds are 10-90 and the underdog wins, you can't devide an unusual in half, so you'd have to take the unsual into bank and give the betters keys/metal in return. If you were able to make something like that it'd be insane

The only problem I can see with unusuals is that if lets say the odds are 10-90 and the underdog wins, you can't devide an unusual in half, so you'd have to take the unsual into bank and give the betters keys/metal in return. If you were able to make something like that it'd be insane
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