Even if there was a badwater server instead I doubt it would remain popular for long. If you remember when loaded put up their server, it was populated for all of 2 maps before it was never touched again. The fact of the matter is that if you make a badwater pub to comp. specifications, then for very poor reasons it will never appeal to the people necessary to fill the server. No crits takes the server off quick play, and people of the competitive community just don't pub that often. As you can see the largest problem people have is with continued population, and if the dm servers are any indication, people are willing to join a shitty populated server instead of waiting for a better one to get people.

Can you set up some sort ping limit thing? I hate playing vs 300 ping asians and europeans.

surely it cant be that hard to beat someone that has 300 ping

Why does everyone complain about powah then :/

It's when he snipes.

As someone who plays with 160 ping average I can tell you this, practicing with high ping is good, you can only do better on lower ping servers.
On matches you will not always have ideal ping or lag conditions, wouldn't you want to be prepared for the worst case situation?
Just my two cents

i know a lot of west players have issues even playing west mge because they don't want to adjust to it then have to to go back to a match at 60ping

playing with high ping is a double edged sword really, it's near impossible to have proper movement or dodge rockets

people only complain about playing against foreigners with high ping when they're losing and want something to blame it on

If no one uses it I will just kill it - I am not going to turn it into a badwater server and there are many more empty DM servers than empty MGE servers.

If you guys dont want it, paying for 6 servers instead of 7 every month is really not a problem. Trust me.

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mge it canada plz

that would do literally nothing, Chicago is pretty much the best server location if you're canadian, ping isnt that bad from the west (~60)

I already have almost all of the servers in Chicago for you damn canadians.

Leave your bagged milk at the door pls.

Klanana, so, I understand there are a lot of empty DM servers, BUT, all the ones I know of have really bad routing, don't have all the custom plugins and support that make a solid dm server, such as 2 sticky restrictions and such, and aren't part of the iT community. I know I mainly use the MGE iT over west because, while i live in WA, I ping well to iT and like others said, it isn't realistic ping for matches anyways. But, if you made a DM server with a good server host in Chi, the irc chat, all that jazz, I'm almost certain it would be full much more than any DM servers are now, and it would be amazing. Please at least consider it, I love everything you do for the community and I think this is worth a shot.

Edit: that said, it looks like both DM servers are 100% full right now, there's room for a DM iT

I've only been MGEing on this server recently, have invited friends over and had some fun 1v1s.

don't lose hope

I love this server and i occasionally join it even when it is empty to wait for it to fill up but nobody else ever joins :/

There are two DM servers that I run that never get used. We have more than enough DM servers IMO

I've been playing on it, I just like to play in short spurts and generally theres not alot of people to play against on it.

I didn't even know your servers were still running. They must be very hidden, PR wise, I've only heard whispers about Fog's dm servers, I've never seen them show up on the right sidebar on tf.tv, I have never seen them in the server browser looking for dm servers. Of course they don't get used, they have no publicity. This is exactly why I want a DM iT server; the problem isn't that there aren't enough servers, it's that they don't get publicized or used, and waiting for people to join in an empty server sucks. Being a part of iT guarantees the irc chat, which is something to do while waiting and a way to get people in the server, and it's a publicized, recognized brand in the TF2 community. That means newer players would see or hear about it much easier than any other DM servers, and that it would be bookmarked, and likely trafficked, more than any other DM servers.

Edit: I just realized the teamfortress.tv servers on the right are in fact, DM servers. but the label on the right bar makes it hard to tell, you can only tell it's a dm server if you hover over the link.

Can you restart this server? Super stuttery for me.

Done.