Kotaku article on TF2 mm

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Jerm

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http://kotaku.com/competitive-matchmaking-may-rescue-team-fortress-2-from-1758803720

+ interviews with Sideshow and Enigma

Don't think I saw this posted here but it's not a bad Kotaku article. It's always nice to see TF2 getting support

http://kotaku.com/competitive-matchmaking-may-rescue-team-fortress-2-from-1758803720

+ interviews with Sideshow and Enigma

Don't think I saw this posted here but it's not a bad Kotaku article. It's always nice to see TF2 getting support

#2

flatline

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these comments make me want to die

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the301stspartan

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knowledgeable esports expert M'aiqIt is exactly right that competitive TF2 doesn’t resemble everyone else’s TF2. They’re basically not even the same game, and if you’re used to the unmanaged chaos of regular TF2, competitive TF2 just doesn’t seem like much fun.

Basically, competitive TF2 is TF2 from 2008, and hasn’t really advanced much beyond that. The only way you could play a more primitive version of the game is load up the Orange Box for XBOX 360. Competitive TF2's problem is that they demand everyone go back in time to when they play, rather than evolve into what everyone else plays. Competitive match making will not help the comp scene get big.

It's a bubble, you read it here first, time to pub!

[quote=knowledgeable esports expert M'aiq]It is exactly right that competitive TF2 doesn’t resemble everyone else’s TF2. They’re basically not even the same game, and if you’re used to the unmanaged chaos of regular TF2, competitive TF2 just doesn’t seem like much fun.

Basically, competitive TF2 is TF2 from 2008, and hasn’t really advanced much beyond that. The only way you could play a more primitive version of the game is load up the Orange Box for XBOX 360. Competitive TF2's problem is that they demand everyone go back in time to when they play, rather than evolve into what everyone else plays. Competitive match making will not help the comp scene get big.[/quote]

It's a bubble, you read it here first, time to pub!

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smesi

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flatlinethese comments make me want to diekotaku.com

[quote=flatline]these comments make me want to die[/quote]
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#5

Hidi

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flatlinethese comments make me want to die

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#6

Dave_

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I can't wait to go back to tf2 in 2008
I'll get like 32434242 fps @ mid

#7

flyingbuddy

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It's so cringey when pubsters with like 20 hours on the game try to talk about comp as if it's fact

#8

sola

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these comments represent why i dont read or pay attention to kotaku at all

#9

Tino_

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why do i read the comment section, it just makes me mad

#10

matchu

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my brain doesn't work *comments on kotaku articles*

#11

Patchwork

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I think I just had a minor aneurysm. Hopefully this means I won't remember the comments.

#12

Tripz

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What is actually looking into something before posting? I think my brain is now dead..

#13

DavidTheWin

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Probably the best written mainstream article about comp TF2 ever though.

mfw my face is in a kotaku article

Probably the best written mainstream article about comp TF2 ever though.

mfw my face is in a kotaku article

#14

kirby

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"I think TF2 is a lost cause, and that’s coming from a guy with +150 cosmetics and 3k hours in the game."

I'm dead.

"I think TF2 is a lost cause, and that’s coming from a guy with +150 cosmetics and 3k hours in the game."

I'm dead.

#15

panda106

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kirby"I think TF2 is a lost cause, and that’s coming from a guy with +150 cosmetics and 3k hours in the game."

I'm dead.

“ 'I think TF2 is a lost cause, and that’s coming from a guy with+150 cosmetics and 3k hours in the game'.

Really? You want people to listen to your reasoning because you have 150+ cosmetics? I’m either being trolled or I’m exposing myself to some serious, life threatening toxin. "

[quote=kirby]"I think TF2 is a lost cause, and that’s coming from a guy with +150 cosmetics and 3k hours in the game."

I'm dead.[/quote]

“ 'I think TF2 is a lost cause, and that’s coming from a guy with+150 cosmetics and 3k hours in the game'.

Really? You want people to listen to your reasoning because you have 150+ cosmetics? I’m either being trolled or I’m exposing myself to some serious, life threatening toxin. "

#16

hurrykann

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Man regular americans seem to just want to be play tf2 braindead :-(

#17

Geel9

marketplace.tf

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guys I have 6,636 (at time of writing) hats and tf2 is going to beat csgo so don't worry

#18

trash

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kirby"I think TF2 is a lost cause, and that’s coming from a guy with +150 cosmetics and 3k hours in the game."

I'm dead.

as someone who unlocked the notice for 1,000,000 matches in melee by offing myself on mute city over and over again, I'm not quite sure what all this "tournament" hubbub is about nor why it matters

[quote=kirby]"I think TF2 is a lost cause, and that’s coming from a guy with +150 cosmetics and 3k hours in the game."

I'm dead.[/quote]
as someone who unlocked the notice for 1,000,000 matches in melee by offing myself on mute city over and over again, I'm not quite sure what all this "tournament" hubbub is about nor why it matters

#19

kos

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Since when did people take comment sections of any website seriously?? There will always be a vocal minority of idiots.

This is actually a really good writeup, props to sideshow and enigma for representing the tf2 community so well. It's nice to see the competitive side of tf2 getting mainstream exposure, people outside of our closed community are starting to pay attention to it and I hope this trend continues.

Since when did people take comment sections of any website seriously?? There will always be a vocal minority of idiots.

This is actually a really good writeup, props to sideshow and enigma for representing the tf2 community so well. It's nice to see the competitive side of tf2 getting mainstream exposure, people outside of our closed community are starting to pay attention to it and I hope this trend continues.

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Quert

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kosSince when did people take comment sections of any website seriously?? There will always be a vocal minority of idiots.

the actual competitive tf2 players is the minority. these guys actually represent the majority of tf2's general community. you'd see this dumb shit every time if not for the competitive scene.

[quote=kos]Since when did people take comment sections of any website seriously?? There will always be a vocal minority of idiots.[/quote]

the actual competitive tf2 players is the minority. these guys actually represent the majority of tf2's general community. you'd see this dumb shit every time if not for the competitive scene.

#21

Pendji

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Oh no, a game that isn't already made in a competitive format, where the community has to set up restrictions to make it more serious and enjoyable, what is this? Meanwhile if Valve had done this at launch, nobody would've been angry at the class restrictions.

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biskuu

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flyingbuddyIt's so cringey when pubsters with like 20 hours on the game try to talk about comp as if it's fact

Maybe because these are the people that are the majority of TF2 and Valve wants to cater to them as a priority?

[quote=flyingbuddy]It's so cringey when pubsters with like 20 hours on the game try to talk about comp as if it's fact[/quote]
Maybe because these are the people that are the majority of TF2 and Valve wants to cater to them as a priority?

#23

Quert

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This is valve's own fault. they designed and launched this game with a casual gaming experience in mind and is being treating tf2 as such for almost a decade. realistically speaking, releasing matchmaking isn't gonna solve anything until comments like those are not the representation of the majority of this game's player-base. it's foolish to create a player-base with a casual mindset and then expect them to have the maturity or sense of judgment to abide to a competitive structure. you'd literally have to brainwash these people to negate the mentality they created during years of casual tf2

This is valve's own fault. they designed and launched this game with a casual gaming experience in mind and is being treating tf2 as such for almost a decade. realistically speaking, releasing matchmaking isn't gonna solve anything until comments like those are not the representation of the majority of this game's player-base. it's foolish to create a player-base with a casual mindset and then expect them to have the maturity or sense of judgment to abide to a competitive structure. you'd literally have to [b]brainwash[/b] these people to negate the mentality they created during years of casual tf2

#24

sops

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QuertThis is valve's own fault. they designed and launched this game with a casual gaming experience in mind and is being treating tf2 as such for almost a decade..... you'd literally have to brainwash these people to negate the mentality they created during years of casual tf2

repeat after me
i want matchmaking
i want matchmaking
i want matchmaking
i want matchmaking

[quote=Quert]This is valve's own fault. they designed and launched this game with a casual gaming experience in mind and is being treating tf2 as such for almost a decade..... you'd literally have to [b]brainwash[/b] these people to negate the mentality they created during years of casual tf2[/quote]

repeat after me
i want matchmaking
i want matchmaking
i want matchmaking
i want matchmaking

#25

dMenace

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Or just make a better presentation for it. That's literally all the updates are in TF2's history. Making each new component a seemingly master crafted experience.

#26

BSPE

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But is it too late to save pro TF2 from esports obscurity? Will Valve have to destroy the pro game in order to save it?

what's the going rate for a professional tf2 player these days

[quote]But is it too late to save [b]pro[/b] TF2 from esports obscurity? Will Valve have to destroy the[b] pro [/b]game in order to save it?[/quote]

what's the going rate for a professional tf2 player these days

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the301stspartan

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BSPEBut is it too late to save pro TF2 from esports obscurity? Will Valve have to destroy the pro game in order to save it?
what's the going rate for a professional tf2 player these days

Pretty good, tf2 players make good money streaming overwatch

[quote=BSPE][quote]But is it too late to save [b]pro[/b] TF2 from esports obscurity? Will Valve have to destroy the[b] pro [/b]game in order to save it?[/quote]

what's the going rate for a professional tf2 player these days[/quote]

Pretty good, tf2 players make good money streaming overwatch

#28

retrograde

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i kind of wanted to reply to some of the comments but then i realized that i would be expecting an informed conversation on kotaku and i stopped

#29

fnm

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Some of the people in the comments think this about competitive

"It is exactly right that competitive TF2 doesn’t resemble everyone else’s TF2. They’re basically not even the same game, and if you’re used to the unmanaged chaos of regular TF2, competitive TF2 just doesn’t seem like much fun.

Basically, competitive TF2 is TF2 from 2008, and hasn’t really advanced much beyond that. The only way you could play a more primitive version of the game is load up the Orange Box for XBOX 360. Competitive TF2's problem is that they demand everyone go back in time to when they play, rather than evolve into what everyone else plays. Competitive match making will not help the comp scene get big."

I think that people should be educated about how competitive is such a dynamic and interesting format.

Some of the people in the comments think this about competitive

"It is exactly right that competitive TF2 doesn’t resemble everyone else’s TF2. They’re basically not even the same game, and if you’re used to the unmanaged chaos of regular TF2, competitive TF2 just doesn’t seem like much fun.

Basically, competitive TF2 is TF2 from 2008, and hasn’t really advanced much beyond that. The only way you could play a more primitive version of the game is load up the Orange Box for XBOX 360. Competitive TF2's problem is that they demand everyone go back in time to when they play, rather than evolve into what everyone else plays. Competitive match making will not help the comp scene get big."

I think that people should be educated about how competitive is such a dynamic and interesting format.

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ScrewB

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FUCKING NORMALFAGS GET THE FUCK OUT MY GAME
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