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Leverage eSports looking for Visual Designers
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TLDR: I'm a moron and the most gullible fuckwad on this site, copypasting things from the guy I'm working with, we have several casters interested but probably gonna quit due to the vast skepticism which is now understandable.

Basically, I got picked up as a caster for Rai eSports, a group working with TF2 teams looking to expand into others to present tournaments and teams to the community. Some guy claiming to formerly work on CEVO and TF.TV production teams called forzt added us and said he wants to help out. RAM, the head of Rai, said he was legitamate and when we asked why his hours and account were new, he said that his old account was hacked. For all I know this guy could actually be legit as he uses a lot of production buzz words. Probably not, but I followed along. He told me he wanted to break off and form a casting only organization. I figured that the guy has experience apparently, seems cool. WhyNot.jpeg Went and put out a request for casters, and pretty much copypasted Post #1 of this thread from him. After seeing the feedback and him changing his account to private, as well as avoiding a couple of questions I'm abandoning this group and thread. MFW This is the third project I've been picked up for that ended up being shady AF http://imgur.com/DEzbgSb

TLDR: I'm a moron and the most gullible fuckwad on this site, copypasting things from the guy I'm working with, we have several casters interested but probably gonna quit due to the vast skepticism which is now understandable.

Basically, I got picked up as a caster for Rai eSports, a group working with TF2 teams looking to expand into others to present tournaments and teams to the community. Some guy claiming to formerly work on CEVO and TF.TV production teams called forzt added us and said he wants to help out. RAM, the head of Rai, said he was legitamate and when we asked why his hours and account were new, he said that his old account was hacked. For all I know this guy could actually be legit as he uses a lot of production buzz words. Probably not, but I followed along. He told me he wanted to break off and form a casting only organization. I figured that the guy has experience apparently, seems cool. WhyNot.jpeg Went and put out a request for casters, and pretty much copypasted Post #1 of this thread from him. After seeing the feedback and him changing his account to private, as well as avoiding a couple of questions I'm abandoning this group and thread. MFW This is the third project I've been picked up for that ended up being shady AF http://imgur.com/DEzbgSb
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bumping, still interested in both a Graphic and Video Designer

bumping, still interested in both a Graphic and Video Designer
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http://puu.sh/nxuXj/f3d63af1c8.png
wtf

http://puu.sh/nxuXj/f3d63af1c8.png
wtf
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seems so fuckin fishy

seems so fuckin fishy
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Just a tip, and you should really know this shit anyways, but finding people takes more then 3 hours, don't bump the thread all the time

Just a tip, and you should really know this shit anyways, but finding people takes more then 3 hours, don't bump the thread all the time
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The owner looks a lot like an alt (having a private profile, only 4 past aliases, and no avatar) while the "PR Representative" is a ugc player that recently created a pug group called "Daddy Spank Me PUGs": http://www.teamfortress.tv/32001/new-ish-in-house-pug-group-daddy-spank-me-pugs#24. Seems like a pretty quality organization.

The owner looks a lot like an alt (having a private profile, only 4 past aliases, and no avatar) while the "PR Representative" is a ugc player that recently created a pug group called "Daddy Spank Me PUGs": http://www.teamfortress.tv/32001/new-ish-in-house-pug-group-daddy-spank-me-pugs#24. Seems like a pretty quality organization.
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imma laugh if the 'owner' is badazzle or w/e again

imma laugh if the 'owner' is badazzle or w/e again
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ConsoleWarsGamer how old are you

ConsoleWarsGamer how old are you
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DirtyMortThe owner looks a lot like an alt (having a private profile, only 4 past aliases, and no avatar) while the "PR Representative" is a ugc player that recently created a pug group called "Daddy Spank Me PUGs": http://www.teamfortress.tv/32001/new-ish-in-house-pug-group-daddy-spank-me-pugs#24. Seems like a pretty quality organization.

As far as I know, the owner is not an alternative account. Also, I currently play in ESEA Open as well, and that PUG groups's name has been changed due to Solid PUGs, for obvious reasons as is described on that thread.

hooliConsoleWarsGamer how old are you

If that's referring to the cancerous username I have on teamfortress.tv, that's because when I made my tf.tv acount I was using my old alias.

[quote=DirtyMort]The owner looks a lot like an alt (having a private profile, only 4 past aliases, and no avatar) while the "PR Representative" is a ugc player that recently created a pug group called "Daddy Spank Me PUGs": http://www.teamfortress.tv/32001/new-ish-in-house-pug-group-daddy-spank-me-pugs#24. Seems like a pretty quality organization.[/quote]
As far as I know, the owner is not an alternative account. Also, I currently play in ESEA Open as well, and that PUG groups's name has been changed due to Solid PUGs, for obvious reasons as is described on that thread.

[quote=hooli]ConsoleWarsGamer how old are you[/quote]
If that's referring to the cancerous username I have on teamfortress.tv, that's because when I made my tf.tv acount I was using my old alias.
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No one does Photoshop live updates anymore except for maybe the most basic shit. Nodecg.

Also maybe try partnering with the several already existing coverage organizations who would love to cover more intermediate if only they had the staff.

Your post doesn't exactly instill confidence in the professionalism of your organization.

Either have a pay grade set up or acknowledge that this is tf2 and like 4 people total get paid to do their thing and even then only sometimes. Either this is a paid position (per piece/hourly/flat per diem) or its a volunteer. It's okay to say you would like to pay people a little if it becomes viable. Hint: it won't. Otherwise just say that this is a volunteer position.

What work have you done besides getting a buddy to be a "PR representative" (if you find out what that means tell me so I can finally figure out what Kevinispwn does for tf2stadium) and changing the name from "Rai"? Do you have a producer? Sponsors interested? Casters? Schedules planned? Liaised with teams to start developing relationships?

Sorry to put you through the grinder but I'm tired of half assed projects being put together and abandoned because I don't think people realize the dedication it takes to even be slightly involved with a major organization. This looks like you put very little background work or thought into what it means to run a production crew other than " tftv's shit looks nice, we want that but in red instead please " without even really knowing what technology is actually in use. That shit took years to really get to the point you see now.

I hope I'm wrong about you.

No one does Photoshop live updates anymore except for maybe the most basic shit. Nodecg.

Also maybe try partnering with the several already existing coverage organizations who would love to cover more intermediate if only they had the staff.

Your post doesn't exactly instill confidence in the professionalism of your organization.

Either have a pay grade set up or acknowledge that this is tf2 and like 4 people total get paid to do their thing and even then only sometimes. Either this is a paid position (per piece/hourly/flat per diem) or its a volunteer. It's okay to say you would like to pay people a little if it becomes viable. Hint: it won't. Otherwise just say that this is a volunteer position.

What work have you done besides getting a buddy to be a "PR representative" (if you find out what that means tell me so I can finally figure out what Kevinispwn does for tf2stadium) and changing the name from "Rai"? Do you have a producer? Sponsors interested? Casters? Schedules planned? Liaised with teams to start developing relationships?

Sorry to put you through the grinder but I'm tired of half assed projects being put together and abandoned because I don't think people realize the dedication it takes to even be slightly involved with a major organization. This looks like you put very little background work or thought into what it means to run a production crew other than " tftv's shit looks nice, we want that but in red instead please " without even really knowing what technology is actually in use. That shit took years to really get to the point you see now.

I hope I'm wrong about you.
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ConsoleWarsGamerhooliConsoleWarsGamer how old are youIf that's referring to the cancerous username I have on teamfortress.tv, that's because when I made my tf.tv acount I was using my old alias.

i sorta feel like u didnt answer the question idk why

[quote=ConsoleWarsGamer]
[quote=hooli]ConsoleWarsGamer how old are you[/quote]
If that's referring to the cancerous username I have on teamfortress.tv, that's because when I made my tf.tv acount I was using my old alias.[/quote]


i sorta feel like u didnt answer the question idk why
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console is a pretty chill guy tbh

console is a pretty chill guy tbh
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i swear this kid was on my friendslist like a year and a half ago. so idk if that at all adds to his credibility. but name seems familiar.

i swear this kid was on my friendslist like a year and a half ago. so idk if that at all adds to his credibility. but name seems familiar.
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TLDR: I'm a moron, copypasting things from the guy I'm working with, we have several casters interested but probably gonna quit due to the vast skepticism which is now understandable.

Basically, I got picked up as a caster for Rai eSports, a group working with TF2 teams looking to expand into others to present tournaments and teams to the community. Some guy claiming to formerly work on CEVO and TF.TV production teams called forzt added us and said he wants to help out. RAM, the head of Rai, said he was legitamate and when we asked why his hours and account were new, he said that his old account was hacked. For all I know this guy could actually be legit as he uses a lot of production buzz words. Probably not, but I followed along. He told me he wanted to break off and form a casting only organization. I figured that the guy has experience apparently, seems cool. WhyNot.jpeg Went and put out a request for casters, and pretty much copypasted Post #1 of this thread from him. After seeing the feedback and him changing his account to private, as well as avoiding a couple of questions I'm abandoning this group and thread. MFW This is the third project I've been picked up for that ended up being shady AF http://imgur.com/DEzbgSb

TLDR: I'm a moron, copypasting things from the guy I'm working with, we have several casters interested but probably gonna quit due to the vast skepticism which is now understandable.

Basically, I got picked up as a caster for Rai eSports, a group working with TF2 teams looking to expand into others to present tournaments and teams to the community. Some guy claiming to formerly work on CEVO and TF.TV production teams called forzt added us and said he wants to help out. RAM, the head of Rai, said he was legitamate and when we asked why his hours and account were new, he said that his old account was hacked. For all I know this guy could actually be legit as he uses a lot of production buzz words. Probably not, but I followed along. He told me he wanted to break off and form a casting only organization. I figured that the guy has experience apparently, seems cool. WhyNot.jpeg Went and put out a request for casters, and pretty much copypasted Post #1 of this thread from him. After seeing the feedback and him changing his account to private, as well as avoiding a couple of questions I'm abandoning this group and thread. MFW This is the third project I've been picked up for that ended up being shady AF http://imgur.com/DEzbgSb
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You just posted a wall of text, then edited it into your first post why

You just posted a wall of text, then edited it into your first post why
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HidiYou just posted a wall of text, then edited it into your first post why

Probably to avoid people from falling for the OP post. He posted the comment first, then edited because he realized it was for the best to edit the OP post and you can't remove comments yourself. he doesn't want anyone to fall for what's looking like something shady if they just so happen to not read the rest of the thread

@ConsoleWarsGamer could you post the steam profile of the owner in the thread again? Just to avoid them doing shit like this again in the future (without making new alts at least) and maybe someone will recognize the profiles and will be able to clear some stuff up. Maybe they've done shady stuff before

[quote=Hidi]You just posted a wall of text, then edited it into your first post why[/quote]

Probably to avoid people from falling for the OP post. He posted the comment first, then edited because he realized it was for the best to edit the OP post and you can't remove comments yourself. he doesn't want anyone to fall for what's looking like something shady if they just so happen to not read the rest of the thread

@ConsoleWarsGamer could you post the steam profile of the owner in the thread again? Just to avoid them doing shit like this again in the future (without making new alts at least) and maybe someone will recognize the profiles and will be able to clear some stuff up. Maybe they've done shady stuff before
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Hi. I just wanted to clear the air. Forzt added me the day of the tournament we ran, and said he wanted to help out. He claimed to bring experience to the table, and he seemed to be a hardworking guy, so I said sure. He worked with me for a day, and he started to seem kind of fishy. I was planning on breaking off contact with him, but the day after the tournament he comes to me and says that he is breaking off from my organization to do his own thing, which I say is fine. Reading this thread is the first I've heard of all this, but we will definitely be vetting potential volunteers far more thoroughly from now on. Thank you all for your patience.

Hi. I just wanted to clear the air. Forzt added me the day of the tournament we ran, and said he wanted to help out. He claimed to bring experience to the table, and he seemed to be a hardworking guy, so I said sure. He worked with me for a day, and he started to seem kind of fishy. I was planning on breaking off contact with him, but the day after the tournament he comes to me and says that he is breaking off from my organization to do his own thing, which I say is fine. Reading this thread is the first I've heard of all this, but we will definitely be vetting potential volunteers far more thoroughly from now on. Thank you all for your patience.
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Rai_eSportszzzzzzzzzzzzzz

better luck next month

[quote=Rai_eSports]zzzzzzzzzzzzzz[/quote]

better luck next month
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wrechedddddRai_eSportszzzzzzzzzzzzzz
better luck next month

When Forzt, or whatever his real name is, made this post, he was no longer affiliated with us. If you'd like i can show you the chat log where he tells me he's quiting to do his own thing.

[quote=wrecheddddd][quote=Rai_eSports]zzzzzzzzzzzzzz[/quote]

better luck next month[/quote]

When Forzt, or whatever his real name is, made this post, he was no longer affiliated with us. If you'd like i can show you the chat log where he tells me he's quiting to do his own thing.
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hooliConsoleWarsGamer how old are you

He's 15 last time I checked

Source: I went on his twitch stream a while ago and it was in his twitch bio.

[quote=hooli]ConsoleWarsGamer how old are you[/quote]
He's 15 last time I checked

Source: I went on his twitch stream a while ago and it was in his twitch bio.
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I'll just add here that nobody has a clue who Forzt is, and he is lying about any association he's ever had with any production teams.

I'll just add here that nobody has a clue who Forzt is, and he is lying about any association he's ever had with any production teams.
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This seems like low quality drama that no one cares about

This seems like low quality drama that no one cares about
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Rai_eSportswrechedddddRai_eSportszzzzzzzzzzzzzz
better luck next month

When Forzt, or whatever his real name is, made this post, he was no longer affiliated with us. If you'd like i can show you the chat log where he tells me he's quiting to do his own thing.

no worries friendo. us folks here at tftv have had our hearts broken over the years; we've been stolen from, lied to and cheated on. think of us as a girl in her early 20s with some daddy issues. we raise a lil sospecha to sneaky dudes or even those acting a lil sneaky. dont take offend, u just raise some red flags. pce friend and no offendations to ur org

[quote=Rai_eSports][quote=wrecheddddd][quote=Rai_eSports]zzzzzzzzzzzzzz[/quote]

better luck next month[/quote]

When Forzt, or whatever his real name is, made this post, he was no longer affiliated with us. If you'd like i can show you the chat log where he tells me he's quiting to do his own thing.[/quote]

no worries friendo. us folks here at tftv have had our hearts broken over the years; we've been stolen from, lied to and cheated on. think of us as a girl in her early 20s with some daddy issues. we raise a lil sospecha to sneaky dudes or even those acting a lil sneaky. dont take offend, u just raise some red flags. pce friend and no offendations to ur org
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catman1900hooliConsoleWarsGamer how old are youHe's 15 last time I checked

Source: I went on his twitch stream a while ago and it was in his twitch bio.

Yep, I'm fifteen. Responded to this post:

ConsoleWarsGamerhooliConsoleWarsGamer how old are youIf that's referring to the cancerous username I have on teamfortress.tv, that's because when I made my tf.tv acount I was using my old alias.

As I did due to knowing my tftv name is pretty awful and thinking it was someone merely mocking the childish and stupid name.

[quote=catman1900][quote=hooli]ConsoleWarsGamer how old are you[/quote]
He's 15 last time I checked

Source: I went on his twitch stream a while ago and it was in his twitch bio.[/quote]
Yep, I'm fifteen. Responded to this post:[quote=ConsoleWarsGamer][quote=hooli]ConsoleWarsGamer how old are you[/quote]
If that's referring to the cancerous username I have on teamfortress.tv, that's because when I made my tf.tv acount I was using my old alias.[/quote] As I did due to knowing my tftv name is pretty awful and thinking it was someone merely mocking the childish and stupid name.
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Tob@ConsoleWarsGamer could you post the steam profile of the owner in the thread again? Just to avoid them doing shit like this again in the future (without making new alts at least) and maybe someone will recognize the profiles and will be able to clear some stuff up. Maybe they've done shady stuff before

This is his profile http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198287066580
He's currently private, and after reading this thread will probably not be bothering anyone on this account for a while.

[quote=Tob]@ConsoleWarsGamer could you post the steam profile of the owner in the thread again? Just to avoid them doing shit like this again in the future (without making new alts at least) and maybe someone will recognize the profiles and will be able to clear some stuff up. Maybe they've done shady stuff before[/quote]
This is his profile http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198287066580
He's currently private, and after reading this thread will probably not be bothering anyone on this account for a while.
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can i like see some cash or some logo or SOMETHING TO TELL ME THIS ISNT JUST SOME SCAM

can i like see some cash or some logo or SOMETHING TO TELL ME THIS ISNT JUST SOME SCAM
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This is such boring drama

This is such boring drama
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aim-can i like see some cash or some logo or SOMETHING TO TELL ME THIS ISNT JUST SOME SCAM

Here's our website, www.raiesports.com , our twitch, www.twitch.tv/rai_esports , and we are sponsored by serveme.tf.

EoNThis is such boring drama

Agreed. I was just trying to set everything straight.

[quote=aim-]can i like see some cash or some logo or SOMETHING TO TELL ME THIS ISNT JUST SOME SCAM[/quote]

Here's our website, www.raiesports.com , our twitch, www.twitch.tv/rai_esports , and we are sponsored by serveme.tf.

[quote=EoN]This is such boring drama[/quote]

Agreed. I was just trying to set everything straight.
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