I played with the Pregame Tryhards last season. Math, tom, and turbo are all still on the team and they are truly some of my favorite people to play tf2 with. If the team is lead by those three it will be a solid team and a contender for the gold in gold. But there are serious issues with sdogg's -- who in the past has been the only leader of the team -- leadership. Among many other things, last season sdogg:

--left the team leaderless and medicless the week before our first playoff match, claiming he was "burnt out".
--stopped paying for the team's server, which he told in his first communication to the team that week the night before the match (similar thing happened last season, apparently).
--removed players from the roster at his own discretion, sometimes without informing even those team members or other team "leaders".
--managed the roster poorly, resulting in a match where we were under-rostered and had to play 8v9.
--failed to delegate tasks, not allowing anyone else to make decisions or do work for the team outside of actual play.
--kept all conversations about the team's plans in 1-on-1 conversations.
--kicked and removed from the team forums anyone who wanted to discuss plans for the next season in a team meeting.
--used an alt account to spy on other team's scrims without their permission or knowledge.
--failed to change or even accept the validity of many of these complaints when they were brought up with him.

This was not sdogg's first season. He has lead several teams in the past and many others have had similar complaints.

I really wish I didn't have to post this, because it seems petty and stupid to me. However, I can't let people who are interested in joining do so without knowing the history, regardless of how much I like the rest of the team and wish them the best.

TL;DR pregame tryhards is an excellent team with some of the best in HL on it, but sdogg is an unreliable and lacking leader which should be considered when trying out.

de_stroyed

Does UGC not have the mutiny rule?

lulz

next level

@sdogg2m

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqluFjtHyTw

Actually his first observation was that you're a crappy leader, and the kind of person who gives competitive play a bad rep in situations like these. So yeah, I guess you're right?

Hello there,

I am the resident homosexual Satanist and my ouija board has told me that there is some form of sexual action to be had with Mr. sdogg2m.
Apparently there had beef spread around and I haven't been invited?
I WON'T stand for it!
Even some of the best players (a.k.a playas;) ) have even gotten in on all this beef and ENJOYED IT?
I. AM. OUTRAGED.
WHERE IS MY BEEF, SDOGG2M??
I DEMAND BEEF.

Always awaiting your reply (and beef),
endgame.

http://i.somethingawful.com/mjolnir/images/dannymanic~satan.jpg

Woah. I dunno what that was above me but hey, seriously I've heard your demoman is like good enough to play in invite and stuff. He told me that. He once told me in a lobby how a demoman on granary mids should never die and he should be killing everything and it's like pretty easy and why would you be dying? Do you think he could mentor me some time or something? I need to learn from the best.

I'm pretty sure he would know everything you need to man. Like how to not show up to scrims or stop paying for your server without telling your team? That's a sure way to get better. Anyways, he's played with the best man. Didn't mention any names, or post any proof or logs so we know he's not bullshitting. Sounds like some guy who's just pissed that Barry is telling the truth...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_burn_centers_in_the_United_States

Quit picking on us HL shitties. This team is defunct. Go home.

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this is like the forum equivalent of a scrim between Team Echelon and Pregame Tryhards.

sub open drama ^_^

Sdogg, you don't even play tf2 competitively anymore. You have no team and your Flock is zero, padre. You've done nothing but make yourself look like an ass.

I like Tom's advice. Embrace the obsolescence of your opinions and this thread, and just go the fuck home. I'm done with this.

sdogg, you were the worst team lead! Worst season ever!

I should have took Barry and left you the moment you kicked Pyrokanetis from the team.

You don't know talent period!

That hurt bro

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6895399168/hA4DC0DC6/

Since when am I on a team with Barry? All I know is I'm a higher level than you, like I even give a fuck?

http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/29905550.jpg

GG NO RE SDOGG

Exactly! You were 0-2 in the Open PLAYOFFS! Sdogg has never seen the open playoffs!

Not replying to this alias account

Aliasing as Lydia? Good job.

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Seems to me like you made an account to alias as Lydia, and then tried to stir up more drama. Good job bro.

SteamID
STEAM_0:0:60154422

January 4, 2013

This Steam ID relates to an account that is most certainly NOT lydia.

http://software.informer.com/articles_uploads/6072c3f98f422cbfe116f89220478223.thumbnail.jpg

I really wish I could say good try, Sdogg.. But I'd rather just say fuck off and stop aliasing like a faggot. No one cares what you say anymore, sorry.

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Or stay off forums when you have a wife and a kid you should be attending to, instead of making alt accounts to stir up drama and bullshit online you faggot.
You are now excused.

what's going on here