reddit mge was subliminal just raging at people for 12 hours a day LOL

mge iT was wayyy better because the real lords were there

miss the days where i would just mge all the time and scout v scout against kay, newspeak, nate rivers, zclipse, moose and dante

also ammomod is still the funnest arena soldier v soldier, spire is the most unfun thing EVER

dpm is overrated

badlands is fucking awful

Endless comments on message boards from cynics about TF2 being dead are what will kill TF2

"matchmaking is already kind of dead" he says about the game mode that has not yet been released and is still in beta. Next he'll probably be saying that Faceit is dead when that's in beta too

Medic is fun to play.

tf2 is dead

The golden age of competitive TF2 was 2009-2013.

R.I.P.
Complexitys and EGs of our time
The Platinums...the Destros...the Yz50s
4 Divisions we had ONCE
Gotfrag
Gravelpit

school is more fun than any fps out there
mge is more enjoyable than 6's

I really dislike Bren's casts.

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one day isn't as long as an entire school semester

We could and should of done better growing TF2

I agree with a lot of things b4nny says. i'm glad he's kind of a middleman for Valve to get feedback for MM. I'm confident he's doing a good job
edit: He also seems like a nice guy who just likes TF2 a lot. He can get defensive about it at times which is why some people say he's changed. Most of that is wrong. People just treat him differently now so he treats everyone differently back

Sunshine was okay. Better than some other maps in the pool at least. I'm really hoping Phi doesn't give up on the map and improves it to the point where people will vote it back in
Also everyone please give Reckoner a chance. It won't improve if nobody plays or gives feedback

99% of b4nny subs are cool. There's only a handful of exceptions and they ruin it for the rest
(I'm saying this as someone who rarely actually watches his streams. My experience with b4nny subs is outside his chat. No clue what his own stream chat is like)

The stream list on the TF2 main menu is aids. At least 5 viewbotters playing TF2 since it was added (no idea why but they were all Russian). A lot of pubbers in chat backseat gaming.
Growing the twitch community at the cost of the community becoming more toxic is not worth it.

overwatch is a good game

A lot of open players hate him for no reason, but there are plenty of invite players (who used to play IM when he was IM/open) who express their hatred towards him.

"cloudmaker is shit" has been a meme for almost 3 years.

this is just based on the difficulties my friends have had actually finding mm games, despite everyone I know having 8+ mm passes to give away at a moments notice. i cant verify because i dont have enough frames to play mm.

i would like to see some kind of incentive structure to encourage the average pubber to grind mm, and hopefully further performance optimization

That's why you should wait for it to release.

From what I've read, your average player is having a lot of trouble getting out of rank 1. I think that's primarily due to the ranking system being flawed. It's a ladder system that doesn't have a placement period like CS:GO, everyone starts at the bottom so the skill level of rank 1 games is all over the place. I imagine it's very discouraging to newer players. On top of that the game runs very poorly in matchmaking. I think if these two things are remedied, the matchmaking experience for your average TF2 player will be much more fulfilling.

edit: i got super ninja'd

Not a fan of zowie mice, FK was highly underwhelming and overrated (the original one), the recent EC2-A was a lot better but I couldn't get passed the awful click latency.

Badland is a ok map rather than a good map. I actually like process and metalworks more. Would also love to see the return of gravelpit.

I wish 6s had more class variety while still being fast paced...

idk what kind of response that is, i literally have no choice but to wait until it is released. but dont pretend that i cant have an opinion on something just because its in beta; its been widely available to pretty much everyone for months, and given the perpetual development model in TF2, you could say it'll always be "in beta". we certainly did not see the same reservation of judgement during the overwatch beta

i greatly enjoyed the couple of hours ive been able to play in mm even at ~10fps, but i am a comp tf2 player and am biased towards that response, much like the rest of the people in this thread. the average pubber who doesn't care about tf2's esports prospects doesn't have the same inclinations

- More unlocks will gradually be allowed over time after i58, maybe everything by i61
- The EU format for 5cp could learn from the US (I'd like to see the "first half"/winlimit 3 on two maps)
- ESL might be the best avenue for comp TF2 to go big, AC client and all

I actually really enjoy casts, I feel the hype up on some of them is amazing, i found out about tf2 five years ago through watching comp games

vanilla ruleset (+med unlocks) was better

im dumb

I think what is meant by the response is don't declare matchmaking dead before it comes out

You are judging the matchmaking beta; which is fair. It's not complete, and has obvious issues. Just make sure to make that clear in your posts. Lots of people jump from "the matchmaking beta has big problems" to "TF2 is dead" pretty quickly (albeit primarily on sites like Reddit)

Getawhale is a super nice dude but he is fucking terrible at casting

I liked gullywash last with water under the point
I liked competetive tf2 without gunboats
I liked metalworks
I hate reckoner because the design is sooo similar to snakewater's (imo)
Despite that, I fucking love snakewater