puddingkipItaly will win, beating Germany 2-1 in finals.
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[quote=puddingkip]Italy will win, beating Germany 2-1 in finals.[/quote]
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Hafficool, 8.15% of Iceland is currently in France right now to watch UEFA Euro 2016!
Hafficool, 8.15% of Iceland is currently in France right now to watch UEFA Euro 2016!
Hafficool, 8.15% of Iceland is currently in France right now to watch UEFA Euro 2016!
Hafficool, 8.15% of Iceland is currently in France right now to watch UEFA Euro 2016!
Flicker2-1 against Romania, that's what I would call a pretty underwhelming result.
Hopefully France will turn up against bigger opponents.
Romenia had the qualifying’s best defensive record, with just two goals conceded in 10 matches.It’d be certainly a tough match to them and Payet saved the day haha
[quote=Flicker]2-1 against Romania, that's what I would call a pretty underwhelming result.
Hopefully France will turn up against bigger opponents.[/quote]
Romenia had the qualifying’s best defensive record, with just two goals conceded in 10 matches.It’d be certainly a tough match to them and Payet saved the day haha
Hopefully France will turn up against bigger opponents.[/quote]
Romenia had the qualifying’s best defensive record, with just two goals conceded in 10 matches.It’d be certainly a tough match to them and Payet saved the day haha
my prediction on who will win:
Safe bet: Germany (even when Reus is out with an injury and them not performing as well as one might hope they still are a really strong side who probably will roll straight to the finals)
I just want portugal to win and this year they could their year. Quaresma has been on form and not to mention the big boy himself Ronaldo.
France will mostlikely pull a Brazil, Belgium will never win it regardless of their "superstar" players, it will be years 'til England will be considered to win and Spain will not win after the horrible song they made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7f6pHtis4o
my prediction on who will win:
Safe bet: Germany (even when Reus is out with an injury and them not performing as well as one might hope they still are a really strong side who probably will roll straight to the finals)
I just want portugal to win and this year they could their year. Quaresma has been on form and not to mention the big boy himself Ronaldo.
France will mostlikely pull a Brazil, Belgium will never win it regardless of their "superstar" players, it will be years 'til England will be considered to win and Spain will not win after the horrible song they made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7f6pHtis4o
Safe bet: Germany (even when Reus is out with an injury and them not performing as well as one might hope they still are a really strong side who probably will roll straight to the finals)
I just want portugal to win and this year they could their year. Quaresma has been on form and not to mention the big boy himself Ronaldo.
France will mostlikely pull a Brazil, Belgium will never win it regardless of their "superstar" players, it will be years 'til England will be considered to win and Spain will not win after the horrible song they made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7f6pHtis4o
Going to watch Belgium vs Sweden with some mates at an event called 'Dance with the Devils', over 2k people in an arena watching while artists like Sigma play sets. Hyped
Hoping we play 1 match as good as Belgium vs America was at the world cup, that was great
Going to watch Belgium vs Sweden with some mates at an event called 'Dance with the Devils', over 2k people in an arena watching while artists like Sigma play sets. Hyped
Hoping we play 1 match as good as Belgium vs America was at the world cup, that was great
Hoping we play 1 match as good as Belgium vs America was at the world cup, that was great
Romania made it for once so I can actually have hopes my team will make playoffs. Thought we played well vs France but baguette is too strong late game.
Romania made it for once so I can actually have hopes my team will make playoffs. Thought we played well vs France but baguette is too strong late game.
we played so well in 1st half. heartbreaking that it was a draw -_-
we played so well in 1st half. heartbreaking that it was a draw -_-
I need to stop watching these England games. I always end up disappointed :(
I need to stop watching these England games. I always end up disappointed :(
razkarMY BETS ARE FUCKED, FCKING ENGLAND
lmao who bets on england. they're the kings of bottling
No Vardy, no party
[quote=razkar]MY BETS ARE FUCKED, FCKING ENGLAND[/quote]
lmao who bets on england. they're the kings of bottling
No Vardy, no party
lmao who bets on england. they're the kings of bottling
No Vardy, no party
Paprika_kaneco you really dont understand what i mean. Yes ronaldo is one if not the best player in the world im not bashing him for his insane club goal scoring record, he is one of the greatest ever. But when it comes to the World cup finals and European cup finals he hasnt performed at all. I have no idea how you can call bullshit and say that im factually wrong. In the 2014/2010/2006 world cup he scored a total 3 goal the combined 3 tournaments. 1 goal per tournament sounds quite terrible for one of the best players ever. In the 2008/2004 he scored a combined total of 3 goals. How on earth is 1 goal a tournament "carrying the national team on his back as far as I can remember". It is a completely factually correct to say that ronaldo has choked in these 5 international finals, and i dont see why this one will be different. He hasnt proven himself as one of the greats for his national side is all im saying. When i said on an international stage i meant quite literally playing for his nation in a world/euro cup. Just because youve done it for your club doesnt mean you have done it for your nation.
A true carry is someone like the Brazilian Ronaldo. In the 2002/1998 world cup he scored a combined 12 goals (6 goals per tournament, 6 times cristiano's stats). He has won 2 world cups and in the other he won the golden ball. (where he had a fit before the final against france). This sounds like "carrying" to me, if you still believe cristiano ronaldo carries portugal you clearly are just fan-gaying over him because hes portuguese.
Getting a bit tangled up on this argument but I have to correct you.
He does carry the NT tho, you obviously haven't watched any of Portugal games. First of all pretty much all the qualifiers he carried the team on his back, we wouldn't even have made it to the final stages of those tournaments you mentioned without him. Source: 1, 2, 3, 4
Second of all, he is our all time leading top scorer for the National squad having already surpassed names like Pauleta, Eusébio and Luis Figo by a huge marging.
So your claim that "He hasnt proven himself as one of the greats for his national side" is simply false.
What you can't seem to understand is that any player that reaches this level is gonna have 2-3 opposing players marking him at all times, he didn't produce much end game in the final stages of the tournaments you mentioned but he created a shit ton of space and opportunitites, it doesn't help the rest of the team and our manager has been subpar for like 10 years and didn't take advantage of that. Since the 2006 WC, Ronaldo has been probably the only world class player on our national squad, at least offensive minded. We haven't had a decent pure striker in over 10 years since Pauleta retired. Ronaldo is and has been for the last 10 years clearly in a tier above the rest of the squad, but finally this year we actually have great supporting players and a decent manager so I'm hopeful for a great run.
And how can you say that a true carry would be Brazilian Ronaldo in 2002 when that Brazil team was probably the most stacked national team of all times, with players like Ronaldinho, Rivaldo, Roberto Carlos, Cafú, Kaká just to name a few off the top of my head. Literally half that team was world class players, and of course Brazilian Ronaldo was a beast but he wouldn't have done shit without those legends behind him.
[quote=Paprika_]kaneco you really dont understand what i mean. Yes ronaldo is one if not the best player in the world im not bashing him for his insane club goal scoring record, he is one of the greatest ever. But when it comes to the World cup finals and European cup finals he hasnt performed at all. I have no idea how you can call bullshit and say that im factually wrong. In the 2014/2010/2006 world cup he scored a total 3 goal the combined 3 tournaments. 1 goal per tournament sounds quite terrible for one of the best players ever. In the 2008/2004 he scored a combined total of 3 goals. How on earth is 1 goal a tournament "carrying the national team on his back as far as I can remember". It is a completely factually correct to say that ronaldo has choked in these 5 international finals, and i dont see why this one will be different. He hasnt proven himself as one of the greats for his national side is all im saying. When i said on an international stage i meant quite literally playing for his nation in a world/euro cup. Just because youve done it for your club doesnt mean you have done it for your nation.
A true carry is someone like the Brazilian Ronaldo. In the 2002/1998 world cup he scored a combined 12 goals (6 goals per tournament, 6 times cristiano's stats). He has won 2 world cups and in the other he won the golden ball. (where he had a fit before the final against france). This sounds like "carrying" to me, if you still believe cristiano ronaldo carries portugal you clearly are just fan-gaying over him because hes portuguese.[/quote]
Getting a bit tangled up on this argument but I have to correct you.
He does carry the NT tho, you obviously haven't watched any of Portugal games. First of all pretty much all the qualifiers he carried the team on his back, we wouldn't even have made it to the final stages of those tournaments you mentioned without him. Source: [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_%E2%80%93_UEFA_Group_3#Goalscorers]1[/url], [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2008_qualifying#Top_goalscorers]2[/url],[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2012_qualifying#Top_goalscorers] 3[/url], [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification#Top_goalscorers]4[/url]
Second of all, he is our [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal_national_football_team#Top_goalscorers]all time leading top scorer[/url] for the National squad having already surpassed names like Pauleta, Eusébio and Luis Figo by a huge marging.
So your claim that [i]"He hasnt proven himself as one of the greats for his national side"[/i] is simply false.
What you can't seem to understand is that any player that reaches this level is gonna have 2-3 opposing players marking him at all times, he didn't produce much end game in the final stages of the tournaments you mentioned but he created a shit ton of space and opportunitites, it doesn't help the rest of the team and our manager has been subpar for like 10 years and didn't take advantage of that. Since the 2006 WC, Ronaldo has been probably the only world class player on our national squad, at least offensive minded. We haven't had a decent pure striker in over 10 years since Pauleta retired. Ronaldo is and has been for the last 10 years clearly in a tier above the rest of the squad, but finally this year we actually have great supporting players and a decent manager so I'm hopeful for a great run.
And how can you say that a true carry would be Brazilian Ronaldo in 2002 when that Brazil team was probably the most stacked national team of all times, with players like Ronaldinho, Rivaldo, Roberto Carlos, Cafú, Kaká just to name a few off the top of my head. Literally half that team was world class players, and of course Brazilian Ronaldo was a beast but he wouldn't have done shit without those legends behind him.
A true carry is someone like the Brazilian Ronaldo. In the 2002/1998 world cup he scored a combined 12 goals (6 goals per tournament, 6 times cristiano's stats). He has won 2 world cups and in the other he won the golden ball. (where he had a fit before the final against france). This sounds like "carrying" to me, if you still believe cristiano ronaldo carries portugal you clearly are just fan-gaying over him because hes portuguese.[/quote]
Getting a bit tangled up on this argument but I have to correct you.
He does carry the NT tho, you obviously haven't watched any of Portugal games. First of all pretty much all the qualifiers he carried the team on his back, we wouldn't even have made it to the final stages of those tournaments you mentioned without him. Source: [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_%E2%80%93_UEFA_Group_3#Goalscorers]1[/url], [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2008_qualifying#Top_goalscorers]2[/url],[url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Euro_2012_qualifying#Top_goalscorers] 3[/url], [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification#Top_goalscorers]4[/url]
Second of all, he is our [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal_national_football_team#Top_goalscorers]all time leading top scorer[/url] for the National squad having already surpassed names like Pauleta, Eusébio and Luis Figo by a huge marging.
So your claim that [i]"He hasnt proven himself as one of the greats for his national side"[/i] is simply false.
What you can't seem to understand is that any player that reaches this level is gonna have 2-3 opposing players marking him at all times, he didn't produce much end game in the final stages of the tournaments you mentioned but he created a shit ton of space and opportunitites, it doesn't help the rest of the team and our manager has been subpar for like 10 years and didn't take advantage of that. Since the 2006 WC, Ronaldo has been probably the only world class player on our national squad, at least offensive minded. We haven't had a decent pure striker in over 10 years since Pauleta retired. Ronaldo is and has been for the last 10 years clearly in a tier above the rest of the squad, but finally this year we actually have great supporting players and a decent manager so I'm hopeful for a great run.
And how can you say that a true carry would be Brazilian Ronaldo in 2002 when that Brazil team was probably the most stacked national team of all times, with players like Ronaldinho, Rivaldo, Roberto Carlos, Cafú, Kaká just to name a few off the top of my head. Literally half that team was world class players, and of course Brazilian Ronaldo was a beast but he wouldn't have done shit without those legends behind him.
well rooney is the all time top scorer for england, but i bet 99% of english people will tell you the likes of gary lineker and alan shearer have done way more for the national side than rooney, even though they dont have the record. Of course the bigger your reputation the more youre analysed by the other teams in the pre match debrief, so yes when ronaldo plays on the left of the forward 3/4 assuming youre playing 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3, the other team will play with a more defensive right winger so he can cover with the right back so ronaldo is always in a 2v1. But then how do other big name players perform at major tournament. Messi, muller, klose, henry, trezeguet all got/get the same treatment and still performed when it matters. Surely one of the key qualities of being a great is getting past this. You're clearly a massive ronaldo fan so you will back him no matter what. Personally i feel he hasnt lived up to his name in the big tournaments, maybe he'll do it in the euros now
well rooney is the all time top scorer for england, but i bet 99% of english people will tell you the likes of gary lineker and alan shearer have done way more for the national side than rooney, even though they dont have the record. Of course the bigger your reputation the more youre analysed by the other teams in the pre match debrief, so yes when ronaldo plays on the left of the forward 3/4 assuming youre playing 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3, the other team will play with a more defensive right winger so he can cover with the right back so ronaldo is always in a 2v1. But then how do other big name players perform at major tournament. Messi, muller, klose, henry, trezeguet all got/get the same treatment and still performed when it matters. Surely one of the key qualities of being a great is getting past this. You're clearly a massive ronaldo fan so you will back him no matter what. Personally i feel he hasnt lived up to his name in the big tournaments, maybe he'll do it in the euros now
Sry but your posts are kinda dumb. Messi, Müller etc played in better teams, they didn't "get the same treatment".
Surely one of the key qualities of being a great is getting past this.
Who says this? This is football not tf2. You don't have to get past that, your team has to. And even in tf2 you're basically saying "B4nny wasn't performing like he did previous seasons, sure if they know b4nny is playing they will try to shut him down and his flank was unprotected the whole game because both teams were offclassing as heavy and trying to backcap, but surely it's a key quality of greatness to get past this".
You're clearly a massive ronaldo fan so you will back him no matter what.
And you're not a true scotsman so your opinion isn't even valid.
Sry but your posts are kinda dumb. Messi, Müller etc played in better teams, they didn't "get the same treatment".
[quote]Surely one of the key qualities of being a great is getting past this.[/quote] Who says this? This is football not tf2. You don't have to get past that, your team has to. And even in tf2 you're basically saying "B4nny wasn't performing like he did previous seasons, sure if they know b4nny is playing they will try to shut him down and his flank was unprotected the whole game because both teams were offclassing as heavy and trying to backcap, but surely it's a key quality of greatness to get past this".
[quote]You're clearly a massive ronaldo fan so you will back him no matter what.[/quote]
And you're not a true scotsman so your opinion isn't even valid.
[quote]Surely one of the key qualities of being a great is getting past this.[/quote] Who says this? This is football not tf2. You don't have to get past that, your team has to. And even in tf2 you're basically saying "B4nny wasn't performing like he did previous seasons, sure if they know b4nny is playing they will try to shut him down and his flank was unprotected the whole game because both teams were offclassing as heavy and trying to backcap, but surely it's a key quality of greatness to get past this".
[quote]You're clearly a massive ronaldo fan so you will back him no matter what.[/quote]
And you're not a true scotsman so your opinion isn't even valid.
the fact that you just said messi doesnt get the same treatment is one of the funniest statements i've ever heard. Messi definitely gets doubled marked more than anyone, did you watch any of the 2014 world cup matches? Guess what, he was able to overcome this and score 4 cruial goals and reach the final. I have no idea how you truly believe being great doesnt mean overcoming these issues. As someones whos played at a professional youth standard of football i can guarantee you that the best players at high levels are the ones who can adapt and overcome to whats thrown at them. Being versatile is a massive part of football and if you cant see that you clearly dont know what playing/understanding football at a high level is like.
p.s i would like a valid reason why my posts are dumb :)
the fact that you just said messi doesnt get the same treatment is one of the funniest statements i've ever heard. Messi definitely gets doubled marked more than anyone, did you watch any of the 2014 world cup matches? Guess what, he was able to overcome this and score 4 cruial goals and reach the final. I have no idea how you truly believe being great doesnt mean overcoming these issues. As someones whos played at a professional youth standard of football i can guarantee you that the best players at high levels are the ones who can adapt and overcome to whats thrown at them. Being versatile is a massive part of football and if you cant see that you clearly dont know what playing/understanding football at a high level is like.
p.s i would like a valid reason why my posts are dumb :)
p.s i would like a valid reason why my posts are dumb :)
Dude did you literally not even read the introduction of my post? Your posts are dumb because they do nothing but restate the same opinion backed up with nothing but false comparisons and logical fallacies and also fail to address any replies with anything else than another repetition of the same statement and enough true scotsmen to build a new national team. And if you want to discuss this in greater detail I recommend you make a new thread because this is really offtopic .
Dude did you literally not even read the introduction of my post? Your posts are dumb because they do nothing but restate the same opinion backed up with nothing but false comparisons and logical fallacies and also fail to address any replies with anything else than another repetition of the same statement and enough true scotsmen to build a new national team. And if you want to discuss this in greater detail I recommend you make a new thread because this is really offtopic .
Todays games were insane! Proud of my team Croatia for a well deserved win! Side note: Croatian captain's dad passed away today, Srna found out after the match and is questionable to play next game.
- Germany played well but at times looked vulnerable in the back. Not sure if the fact that they played with a false 9 is going to hurt them in the long run?
- Poland has a lot of potential, possible dark horse as well?
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OmbrackHaha England strikes again !
Why was Kane taking corners???????????? xD
Todays games were insane! Proud of my team Croatia for a well deserved win! Side note: Croatian captain's dad passed away today, Srna found out after the match and is questionable to play next game.
- Germany played well but at times looked vulnerable in the back. Not sure if the fact that they played with a false 9 is going to hurt them in the long run?
- Poland has a lot of potential, possible dark horse as well?
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[quote=Ombrack]Haha England strikes again ![/quote]
Why was Kane taking corners???????????? xD
- Germany played well but at times looked vulnerable in the back. Not sure if the fact that they played with a false 9 is going to hurt them in the long run?
- Poland has a lot of potential, possible dark horse as well?
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[quote=Ombrack]Haha England strikes again ![/quote]
Why was Kane taking corners???????????? xD
It was an incredible performance put out by ukraine against the world cup winners. Shame they didnt get a goal or two.
I personally think that portugal will do well, with ronaldo's thirst of getting another ballon d'or. And who knows, maybe teams like wales, croatia or switzerland can knockout some giants.
With that out of the way, HAI ROMANIA
It was an incredible performance put out by ukraine against the world cup winners. Shame they didnt get a goal or two.
I personally think that portugal will do well, with ronaldo's thirst of getting another ballon d'or. And who knows, maybe teams like wales, croatia or switzerland can knockout some giants.
With that out of the way, HAI ROMANIA
I personally think that portugal will do well, with ronaldo's thirst of getting another ballon d'or. And who knows, maybe teams like wales, croatia or switzerland can knockout some giants.
With that out of the way, HAI ROMANIA
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