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Please tell me that the minmode is not a replacement for r_drawviewmodel 0.
Please tell me that the minmode is not a replacement for r_drawviewmodel 0.
phobiaanyone who joins team pyro should get banned
You're telling me you think pyro needs a rework less than heavy does?
[quote=phobia]anyone who joins team pyro should get banned[/quote]
You're telling me you think pyro needs a rework less than heavy does?
You're telling me you think pyro needs a rework less than heavy does?
phobiaanyone who joins team pyro should get banned
why would you not join team pyro? i'd rather see pyro get reworked than heavy...
[quote=phobia]anyone who joins team pyro should get banned[/quote]
why would you not join team pyro? i'd rather see pyro get reworked than heavy...
why would you not join team pyro? i'd rather see pyro get reworked than heavy...
phobiaanyone who joins team pyro should get banned
if by "making pyro great again" they're referring to removing the class from the game i'll join #teampyro
[quote=phobia]anyone who joins team pyro should get banned[/quote]
if by "making pyro great again" they're referring to removing the class from the game i'll join #teampyro
if by "making pyro great again" they're referring to removing the class from the game i'll join #teampyro
phobiaanyone who joins team pyro should get banned
The winner of the war gets rebalancing. Pyro seriously needs rebalancing. The most logical action then to get a not annoying as hell pyro is to have it win so it gets balanced.
[quote=phobia]anyone who joins team pyro should get banned[/quote]
The winner of the war gets rebalancing. Pyro seriously needs rebalancing. The most logical action then to get a not annoying as hell pyro is to have it win so it gets balanced.
The winner of the war gets rebalancing. Pyro seriously needs rebalancing. The most logical action then to get a not annoying as hell pyro is to have it win so it gets balanced.
pyro got shitton of broken unlocks, give heavy some love people
pyro got shitton of broken unlocks, give heavy some love people
nopephobiaanyone who joins team pyro should get bannedYou're telling me you think pyro needs a rework less than heavy does?
Whichever class wins gets new weapons, not a rework.
edit: jk im stupid, I guess they also get balancing updates.
[quote=nope][quote=phobia]anyone who joins team pyro should get banned[/quote]
You're telling me you think pyro needs a rework less than heavy does?[/quote]
Whichever class wins gets new weapons, not a rework.
edit: jk im stupid, I guess they also get balancing updates.
You're telling me you think pyro needs a rework less than heavy does?[/quote]
Whichever class wins gets new weapons, not a rework.
edit: jk im stupid, I guess they also get balancing updates.
consumonnphobiaanyone who joins team pyro should get bannedThe winner of the war gets rebalancing. Pyro seriously needs rebalancing. The most logical action then to get a not annoying as hell pyro is to have it win so it gets balanced.
if any of you actually think that valve will only balance the class that wins you're retarded.
[quote=consumonn][quote=phobia]anyone who joins team pyro should get banned[/quote]
The winner of the war gets rebalancing. Pyro seriously needs rebalancing. The most logical action then to get a not annoying as hell pyro is to have it win so it gets balanced.[/quote]
if any of you actually think that valve will only balance the class that wins you're retarded.
The winner of the war gets rebalancing. Pyro seriously needs rebalancing. The most logical action then to get a not annoying as hell pyro is to have it win so it gets balanced.[/quote]
if any of you actually think that valve will only balance the class that wins you're retarded.
Frost_BitePlease tell me that the minmode is not a replacement for r_drawviewmodel 0.
Wouldn't be surprised if view models are enforced in competitive mode much like in csgo.
[quote=Frost_Bite]Please tell me that the minmode is not a replacement for r_drawviewmodel 0.[/quote]
Wouldn't be surprised if view models are enforced in competitive mode much like in csgo.
Wouldn't be surprised if view models are enforced in competitive mode much like in csgo.
adyskypyro got shitton of broken unlocks, give heavy some love people
Heavy has GRU and Natascha. How is this less broken than pyro's unlocks?
P.S.
I agree that reserve shooter is broken
[quote=adysky]pyro got shitton of broken unlocks, give heavy some love people[/quote]
Heavy has GRU and Natascha. How is this less broken than pyro's unlocks?
P.S.
I agree that reserve shooter is broken
Heavy has GRU and Natascha. How is this less broken than pyro's unlocks?
P.S.
I agree that reserve shooter is broken
azarunteamfortress.comTwo men enter! One man leaves! Followed shortly after by the other man, also leaving!So both of them will get new weapons just not in the same update.
But! Even though both of those men will be allowed to leave, and both will be unharmed, and there will have been no real consequences as a result of them entering, and they may actually go on to be dear friends, only one of them will get a future Class Update!
But! Okay, both of them might get new Class Updates at some point. In fact, it's highly likely they both will.
But! Only one of them will get it first.
This, both of them get new stuff, the WAR is only about who gets it first.
[quote=azarun][quote=teamfortress.com]Two men enter! One man leaves! Followed shortly after by the other man, also leaving!
But! Even though both of those men will be allowed to leave, and both will be unharmed, and there will have been no real consequences as a result of them entering, and they may actually go on to be dear friends, only one of them will get a future Class Update!
But! Okay, both of them might get new Class Updates at some point. In fact, it's highly likely they both will.
But! Only one of them will get it first.[/quote]
So both of them will get new weapons just not in the same update.[/quote]
This, both of them get new stuff, the WAR is only about who gets it first.
But! Even though both of those men will be allowed to leave, and both will be unharmed, and there will have been no real consequences as a result of them entering, and they may actually go on to be dear friends, only one of them will get a future Class Update!
But! Okay, both of them might get new Class Updates at some point. In fact, it's highly likely they both will.
But! Only one of them will get it first.[/quote]
So both of them will get new weapons just not in the same update.[/quote]
This, both of them get new stuff, the WAR is only about who gets it first.
well..
at least their development process was neato (if geel and slin are to be trusted)
well..
at least their development process was neato (if geel and slin are to be trusted)
[img]http://i.imgur.com/aO5MN.png[/img]
at least their development process was neato (if geel and slin are to be trusted)
[img]http://i.imgur.com/aO5MN.png[/img]
adyskypyro got shitton of broken unlocks, give heavy some love people
They also said that the class would be re balanced, and that is what pyro needs
[quote=adysky]pyro got shitton of broken unlocks, give heavy some love people[/quote]
They also said that the class would be re balanced, and that is what pyro needs
They also said that the class would be re balanced, and that is what pyro needs
Pyro needs some reworking, airblast is insane, you can control anyones movement and you get crits on demand with the unlocks (unlocks that won't be banned).
How is not obvious it needs a rework.
Pyro needs some reworking, airblast is insane, you can control anyones movement and you get crits on demand with the unlocks (unlocks that won't be banned).
How is not obvious it needs a rework.
How is not obvious it needs a rework.
just a friendly reminder that you can farm points on pyro by airblasting a teammate who lights himself on fire with cow mangler
you can also farm points on heavy by healing friendly teammates with sandvich, or just by playing heavy
just a friendly reminder that you can farm points on pyro by airblasting a teammate who lights himself on fire with cow mangler
you can also farm points on heavy by healing friendly teammates with sandvich, or just by playing heavy
you can also farm points on heavy by healing friendly teammates with sandvich, or just by playing heavy
HAWTHORNEPyro needs some reworking, airblast is insane, you can control anyones movement and you get crits on demand with the unlocks (unlocks that won't be banned).
How is not obvious it needs a rework.
I think we should wait for the update's weapon rebalances before we start crying about rebalances.
[quote=HAWTHORNE]Pyro needs some reworking, airblast is insane, you can control anyones movement and you get crits on demand with the unlocks (unlocks that won't be banned).
How is not obvious it needs a rework.[/quote]
I think we should wait for the update's weapon rebalances before we start crying about rebalances.
[img]http://puu.sh/pTLd5/7aaf102bec.png[/img]
How is not obvious it needs a rework.[/quote]
I think we should wait for the update's weapon rebalances before we start crying about rebalances.
[img]http://puu.sh/pTLd5/7aaf102bec.png[/img]
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=22675
valveBut! Even though both of those men will be allowed to leave, and both will be unharmed, and there will have been no real consequences as a result of them entering, and they may actually go on to be dear friends, only one of them will get a future Class Update!
But! Okay, both of them might get new Class Updates at some point. In fact, it's highly likely they both will.
But! Only one of them will get it first. Click here to find out how to make your vote count in the biggest election of the year, the epic showdown of The Maestro of Maim versus the The Thrower of Flame! Heavy versus Pyro!
both classes will be updated eventually
http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=22675
[quote=valve]
But! Even though both of those men will be allowed to leave, and both will be unharmed, and there will have been no real consequences as a result of them entering, and they may actually go on to be dear friends, only one of them will get a future Class Update!
[b]But! Okay, both of them might get new Class Updates at some point. In fact, it's highly likely they both will.[/b]
But! Only one of them will get it first. Click here to find out how to make your vote count in the biggest election of the year, the epic showdown of The Maestro of Maim versus the The Thrower of Flame! Heavy versus Pyro![/quote]
both classes will be updated eventually
[quote=valve]
But! Even though both of those men will be allowed to leave, and both will be unharmed, and there will have been no real consequences as a result of them entering, and they may actually go on to be dear friends, only one of them will get a future Class Update!
[b]But! Okay, both of them might get new Class Updates at some point. In fact, it's highly likely they both will.[/b]
But! Only one of them will get it first. Click here to find out how to make your vote count in the biggest election of the year, the epic showdown of The Maestro of Maim versus the The Thrower of Flame! Heavy versus Pyro![/quote]
both classes will be updated eventually
HAWTHORNEPyro needs some reworking, airblast is insane, you can control anyones movement and you get crits on demand with the unlocks (unlocks that won't be banned).
How is not obvious it needs a rework.
True. It should however be balanced in a way to make the Pyro a higher DPS class close-quarter combat/assault class. Otherwise it would make the class useless.
[edit] To the people downvoting me: How would you rebalance Pyro? Taking something away without giving something else in exchange is hardly sensible.
[quote=HAWTHORNE]Pyro needs some reworking, airblast is insane, you can control anyones movement and you get crits on demand with the unlocks (unlocks that won't be banned).
How is not obvious it needs a rework.[/quote]
True. It should however be balanced in a way to make the Pyro a higher DPS class close-quarter combat/assault class. Otherwise it would make the class useless.
[edit] To the people downvoting me: How would you rebalance Pyro? Taking something away without giving something else in exchange is hardly sensible.
How is not obvious it needs a rework.[/quote]
True. It should however be balanced in a way to make the Pyro a higher DPS class close-quarter combat/assault class. Otherwise it would make the class useless.
[edit] To the people downvoting me: How would you rebalance Pyro? Taking something away without giving something else in exchange is hardly sensible.
Ericjust a friendly reminder that you can farm points on pyro by airblasting a teammate who lights himself on fire with cow mangler
you can also farm points on heavy by healing friendly teammates with sandvich, or just by playing heavy
update pageHere's how it works. The next time you start the game, you'll be asked to pick a side. (Choose wisely, because you only get to pick once.) From then on, every point you score in a Competitive or Casual match will count towards either Team Heavy or Team Pyro.
the wording here makes me think you (thankfully) don't actually have to play the class you want to support
[quote=Eric]just a friendly reminder that you can farm points on pyro by airblasting a teammate who lights himself on fire with cow mangler
you can also farm points on heavy by healing friendly teammates with sandvich, or just by playing heavy[/quote]
[quote=update page]Here's how it works. The next time you start the game, you'll be asked to pick a side. (Choose wisely, because you only get to pick once.) From then on, every point you score in a Competitive or Casual match will count towards either Team Heavy or Team Pyro.[/quote]
the wording here makes me think you (thankfully) don't actually have to play the class you want to support
you can also farm points on heavy by healing friendly teammates with sandvich, or just by playing heavy[/quote]
[quote=update page]Here's how it works. The next time you start the game, you'll be asked to pick a side. (Choose wisely, because you only get to pick once.) From then on, every point you score in a Competitive or Casual match will count towards either Team Heavy or Team Pyro.[/quote]
the wording here makes me think you (thankfully) don't actually have to play the class you want to support
HAWTHORNEPyro needs some reworking, airblast is insane, you can control anyones movement and you get crits on demand with the unlocks (unlocks that won't be banned).
How is not obvious it needs a rework.
Thing is, they are unclear on whether this class update is gonna be a rework or just new weapons and hats and shit. Pyro needs the rework more, but if it's just new stuff, Heavy should get it imo
[quote=HAWTHORNE]Pyro needs some reworking, airblast is insane, you can control anyones movement and you get crits on demand with the unlocks (unlocks that won't be banned).
How is not obvious it needs a rework.[/quote]
Thing is, they are unclear on whether this class update is gonna be a rework or just new weapons and hats and shit. Pyro needs the rework more, but if it's just new stuff, Heavy should get it imo
How is not obvious it needs a rework.[/quote]
Thing is, they are unclear on whether this class update is gonna be a rework or just new weapons and hats and shit. Pyro needs the rework more, but if it's just new stuff, Heavy should get it imo
yttriumHAWTHORNEPyro needs some reworking, airblast is insane, you can control anyones movement and you get crits on demand with the unlocks (unlocks that won't be banned).I think we should wait for the update's weapon rebalances before we start crying about rebalances.
How is not obvious it needs a rework.
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Hardly crying, both classes will receive balancing no doubt. I would just like to see more of a development in pyro's game play. It is basic stale and brain dead atm
[quote=yttrium][quote=HAWTHORNE]Pyro needs some reworking, airblast is insane, you can control anyones movement and you get crits on demand with the unlocks (unlocks that won't be banned).
How is not obvious it needs a rework.[/quote]
I think we should wait for the update's weapon rebalances before we start crying about rebalances.
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Hardly crying, both classes will receive balancing no doubt. I would just like to see more of a development in pyro's game play. It is basic stale and brain dead atm
How is not obvious it needs a rework.[/quote]
I think we should wait for the update's weapon rebalances before we start crying about rebalances.
[img]-snip-[/img][/quote]
Hardly crying, both classes will receive balancing no doubt. I would just like to see more of a development in pyro's game play. It is basic stale and brain dead atm
on one hand heavy has a bigger impact in a whitelist-free meta, but hes not really broken at his core and could pretty easily be fine with some unlock tweaks.
on the other, pyros only huge problem is the reserve shooter. and hes pretty much straight garbage for anything but being a pest and stalling ubers otherwise. im pretty okay with him being trash, but hes in this unfortunate spot of being both underpowered and really annoying; and if valve wants to insist on improving the viability of the underused classes before really supporting the comp scene then id prefer pyro got a serious rework before they got started on that.
current meta could easily be preserved with a whitelist/class limits so i dont think people should worry too much about how it may affect 6s right now.
on one hand heavy has a bigger impact in a whitelist-free meta, but hes not really broken at his core and could pretty easily be fine with some unlock tweaks.
on the other, pyros only huge problem is the reserve shooter. and hes pretty much straight garbage for anything but being a pest and stalling ubers otherwise. im pretty okay with him being trash, but hes in this unfortunate spot of being both underpowered and really annoying; and if valve wants to insist on improving the viability of the underused classes before really supporting the comp scene then id prefer pyro got a serious rework before they got started on that.
current meta could easily be preserved with a whitelist/class limits so i dont think people should worry too much about how it may affect 6s right now.
on the other, pyros only huge problem is the reserve shooter. and hes pretty much straight garbage for anything but being a pest and stalling ubers otherwise. im pretty okay with him being trash, but hes in this unfortunate spot of being both underpowered and really annoying; and if valve wants to insist on improving the viability of the underused classes before really supporting the comp scene then id prefer pyro got a serious rework before they got started on that.
current meta could easily be preserved with a whitelist/class limits so i dont think people should worry too much about how it may affect 6s right now.
loserprancethe wording here makes me think you (thankfully) don't actually have to play the class you want to support
dear god you're right
new plan: farm teleporter points on gravelpit blu spawn
[quote=loserprance]the wording here makes me think you (thankfully) don't actually have to play the class you want to support[/quote]
dear god you're right
new plan: farm teleporter points on gravelpit blu spawn
dear god you're right
new plan: farm teleporter points on gravelpit blu spawn
I'm scared they might change my favorite no skill broken class someone please hold me and tell me everything will be okay
I'm scared they might change my favorite no skill broken class someone please hold me and tell me everything will be okay
AlmieHAWTHORNEPyro needs some reworking, airblast is insane, you can control anyones movement and you get crits on demand with the unlocks (unlocks that won't be banned).Thing is, they are unclear on whether this class update is gonna be a rework or just new weapons and hats and shit. Pyro needs the rework more, but if it's just new stuff, Heavy should get it imo
How is not obvious it needs a rework.
I'm inclined to agree. Both classes need some reworking, more pyro that heavy, but both classes need some weapons that move away from there traditional style; the same way that demo-knight is effectively a 10th melee class.
[quote=Almie][quote=HAWTHORNE]Pyro needs some reworking, airblast is insane, you can control anyones movement and you get crits on demand with the unlocks (unlocks that won't be banned).
How is not obvious it needs a rework.[/quote]
Thing is, they are unclear on whether this class update is gonna be a rework or just new weapons and hats and shit. Pyro needs the rework more, but if it's just new stuff, Heavy should get it imo[/quote]
I'm inclined to agree. Both classes need some reworking, more pyro that heavy, but both classes need some weapons that move away from there traditional style; the same way that demo-knight is effectively a 10th melee class.
How is not obvious it needs a rework.[/quote]
Thing is, they are unclear on whether this class update is gonna be a rework or just new weapons and hats and shit. Pyro needs the rework more, but if it's just new stuff, Heavy should get it imo[/quote]
I'm inclined to agree. Both classes need some reworking, more pyro that heavy, but both classes need some weapons that move away from there traditional style; the same way that demo-knight is effectively a 10th melee class.
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