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I'm plateauing
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#1
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I have plateaued and all I'm doing is playing lobbies and 24/7 Harvest, rinse and repeat. I want to get better, and frankly need to get better as i want to play open next season. I play soldier/demo. What do I need to do to get better at this game?

I have plateaued and all I'm doing is playing lobbies and 24/7 Harvest, rinse and repeat. I want to get better, and frankly need to get better as i want to play open next season. I play soldier/demo. What do I need to do to get better at this game?
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#2
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stop only playing lobbies and 24/7 harvest

stop only playing lobbies and 24/7 harvest
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#3
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play esea

play esea
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#4
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Stop playing lobbies and 24/7 harvest and at least just add up for pugs instead

If your dm needs more work then join dm servers or mge servers and practice for a bit

if your gamesense needs more work then download some invite demos of the class you want to play or ask someone to mentor you through areas of maps you struggle in

but really stop playing lobbies because they will give you really bad habits and rot your brain

Stop playing lobbies and 24/7 harvest and at least just add up for pugs instead

If your dm needs more work then join dm servers or mge servers and practice for a bit

if your gamesense needs more work then download some invite demos of the class you want to play or ask someone to mentor you through areas of maps you struggle in

but really stop playing lobbies because they will give you really bad habits and rot your brain
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#5
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yeah lobbies and harvest are really bad habits to be honest. What should I play when I have downtime between pugs?

yeah lobbies and harvest are really bad habits to be honest. What should I play when I have downtime between pugs?
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#6
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Harvest is pretty good

Harvest is pretty good
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#7
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Blitheyeah lobbies and harvest are really bad habits to be honest. What should I play when I have downtime between pugs?

more harvest

[quote=Blithe]yeah lobbies and harvest are really bad habits to be honest. What should I play when I have downtime between pugs?[/quote]

more harvest
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#8
24 Frags +

saying that pubs forms bad habits seems like a bad way to try to say that pubs dont help as much as pugs/scrims/matches

pubs are fine other shit is better you only have 2600 hrs just keep playing

saying that pubs forms bad habits seems like a bad way to try to say that pubs dont help as much as pugs/scrims/matches

pubs are fine other shit is better you only have 2600 hrs just keep playing
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#9
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alec_you only have 2600 hrs just keep playing

how many games can you say that with

[quote=alec_]you only have 2600 hrs just keep playing[/quote]
how many games can you say that with
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#10
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most competitive games probably tbh

most competitive games probably tbh
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#11
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Well look at me, I have around 2600 hours and I'm in Mid Finals so idk.

Well look at me, I have around 2600 hours and I'm in Mid Finals so idk.
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#12
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CitroMaindWell look at me, I have around 2600 hours and I'm in Mid Finals so idk.

dont grow too much of an ego lad

[quote=CitroMaind]Well look at me, I have around 2600 hours and I'm in Mid Finals so idk.[/quote]

dont grow too much of an ego lad
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#13
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CitroMaindWell look at me, I have around 2600 hours and I'm in Mid Finals so idk.

idk man u have more hrs than ryb where ur lan finals at?

[quote=CitroMaind]Well look at me, I have around 2600 hours and I'm in Mid Finals so idk.[/quote]
idk man u have more hrs than ryb where ur lan finals at?
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#14
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oktober_CitroMaindWell look at me, I have around 2600 hours and I'm in Mid Finals so idk.
dont grow too much of an ego lad
HallowCitroMaindWell look at me, I have around 2600 hours and I'm in Mid Finals so idk.idk man u have more hrs than ryb where ur lan finals at?

Dw guys ill be fine. And fuck knows.

[quote=oktober_][quote=CitroMaind]Well look at me, I have around 2600 hours and I'm in Mid Finals so idk.[/quote]

dont grow too much of an ego lad[/quote]
[quote=Hallow][quote=CitroMaind]Well look at me, I have around 2600 hours and I'm in Mid Finals so idk.[/quote]
idk man u have more hrs than ryb where ur lan finals at?[/quote]
Dw guys ill be fine. And fuck knows.
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#15
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i have 7k hrs across multiple accs and im mid open please end my suffering

i have 7k hrs across multiple accs and im mid open please end my suffering
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#16
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HallowCitroMaindWell look at me, I have around 2600 hours and I'm in Mid Finals so idk.idk man u have more hrs than ryb where ur lan finals at?

difference is that ryb has 99% of his hours on demoman
not saying that growing an ego is fine in any way but i just dont think ryb is a good example idk

[quote=Hallow][quote=CitroMaind]Well look at me, I have around 2600 hours and I'm in Mid Finals so idk.[/quote]
idk man u have more hrs than ryb where ur lan finals at?[/quote]

difference is that ryb has 99% of his hours on demoman
not saying that growing an ego is fine in any way but i just dont think ryb is a good example idk
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#17
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hours don't really mean much, it depends where those hours are played. justin has like 2k hours iirc, but near 100% of them are scrims and matches because he immediately started competitive

edit: OP, the best way to improve is to play ESEA. scrims and matches with a consistent team has an amazing effect on your gameplay

hours don't really mean much, it depends where those hours are played. justin has like 2k hours iirc, but near 100% of them are scrims and matches because he immediately started competitive

edit: OP, the best way to improve is to play ESEA. scrims and matches with a consistent team has an amazing effect on your gameplay
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#18
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BlitheI play soldier/demo. What do I need to do to get better at this game?

jump maps

[quote=Blithe]I play soldier/demo. What do I need to do to get better at this game?[/quote]
jump maps
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#19
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CitroMaindWell look at me, I have around 2600 hours and I've been carried to mid finals.

http://logs.tf/1457835

edited it for you.

[quote=CitroMaind]Well look at me, I have around 2600 hours and [b]I've been carried to mid finals[/b].[/quote]

http://logs.tf/1457835


edited it for you.
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#20
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fooqpCitroMaindWell look at me, I have around 2600 hours and I've been carried to mid finals.
http://logs.tf/1457835

edited it for you.

I love uubers and I love how salty People are over him Playing in Mid lmao

[quote=fooqp][quote=CitroMaind]Well look at me, I have around 2600 hours and [b]I've been carried to mid finals[/b].[/quote]

http://logs.tf/1457835


edited it for you.[/quote]
I love uubers and I love how salty People are over him Playing in Mid lmao
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#21
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Hallowidk man u have more hrs than ryb where ur lan finals at?

Steam started counted hours like back in 2009 so ryb probably played more than his hours show.

fooqphttp://logs.tf/1457835

edited it for you.

Holy shit Line still plays TF2 :O

[quote=Hallow]idk man u have more hrs than ryb where ur lan finals at?[/quote]

Steam started counted hours like back in 2009 so ryb probably played more than his hours show.

[quote=fooqp]http://logs.tf/1457835

edited it for you.[/quote]

Holy shit Line still plays TF2 :O
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#22
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CitroMaindfooqpCitroMaindWell look at me, I have around 2600 hours and I've been carried to mid finals.
http://logs.tf/1457835

edited it for you.
I love uubers and I love how salty People are over him Playing in Mid lmao

a scout doing 400+ dpm in the quarter finals is normal ofcourse :)

[quote=CitroMaind][quote=fooqp][quote=CitroMaind]Well look at me, I have around 2600 hours and [b]I've been carried to mid finals[/b].[/quote]

http://logs.tf/1457835


edited it for you.[/quote]
I love uubers and I love how salty People are over him Playing in Mid lmao[/quote]

a scout doing 400+ dpm in the quarter finals is normal ofcourse :)
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#23
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CitroMaindfooqpCitroMaindWell look at me, I have around 2600 hours and I've been carried to mid finals.
http://logs.tf/1457835

edited it for you.
I love uubers and I love how salty People are over him Playing in Mid lmao

i don't have anything against him playing in mid. but it's obvious that he's carrying your arrogant ass.

[quote=CitroMaind][quote=fooqp][quote=CitroMaind]Well look at me, I have around 2600 hours and [b]I've been carried to mid finals[/b].[/quote]

http://logs.tf/1457835


edited it for you.[/quote]
I love uubers and I love how salty People are over him Playing in Mid lmao[/quote]

i don't have anything against him playing in mid. but it's obvious that he's carrying your arrogant ass.
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#24
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fooqpCitroMaindfooqpCitroMaindWell look at me, I have around 2600 hours and I've been carried to mid finals.
http://logs.tf/1457835

edited it for you.
I love uubers and I love how salty People are over him Playing in Mid lmao

i don't have anything against him playing in mid. but it's obvious that he's carrying your arrogant ass.

Why instantly arrogant? alec started the conversation about hours so I just gave My personal View on this. Not like I'm going " oh guys all of u blow I have 2000 hours and in Mid playoffs. "

[quote=fooqp][quote=CitroMaind][quote=fooqp][quote=CitroMaind]Well look at me, I have around 2600 hours and [b]I've been carried to mid finals[/b].[/quote]

http://logs.tf/1457835


edited it for you.[/quote]
I love uubers and I love how salty People are over him Playing in Mid lmao[/quote]

i don't have anything against him playing in mid. but it's obvious that he's carrying your arrogant ass.[/quote]
Why instantly arrogant? alec started the conversation about hours so I just gave My personal View on this. Not like I'm going " oh guys all of u blow I have 2000 hours and in Mid playoffs. "
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#25
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SetletHoly shit Line still plays TF2 :O

Kid could have been one of the greatest :(

[quote=Setlet]Holy shit Line still plays TF2 :O[/quote]

Kid could have been one of the greatest :(
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#26
11 Frags +

so as someone who has had periods of growth and stagnation over his illustrious 6 year tf2 career the biggest secret is always be learning something related to 6s

which is like the vaguest and most bullshit answer in the world sorry i'll try to explain

in 2012 I started MGEing a shitload. By mid 2013 I got to the point where I was beating open players p consistently soldier v soldier, so I joined an open team. I ended up getting creamed, and my solution was to keep playing MGE. A year later I tried open again and I wasn't doing much better. At this point, I know why. By 2013, I'd more or less learned all I could from MGE. I was still getting better at the mechanical skills and shit but I wasn't really learning about TF2 anymore. I know all there was to know about surfing rockets and gaying 1v1s, at least from a theoretical side if not in practice. Practicing more MGE was only going to teach me more about MGE at that point. At that point, I decided to start DMing as a way to practice. I learned from that and kept improving (and got tendinitis), but after a point the same thing happened. I learned the gay strats that worked in both DM and 6s, and continuing to practice DM wasn't gonna teach me about 6s.

So I guess the most succinct advice would be to pick a new gamemode or pug group or something. Play with people you've never played before, but who can teach you things you didn't already know. Don't think continuing to scrim the same teams or pug with the same guys or MGEing on the same server is going to work forever, because you'll eventually learn all they have to teach you. Make sure you're always learning about 6s when you're "practicing" and not just playing tf2 and calling it practice

so as someone who has had periods of growth and stagnation over his illustrious 6 year tf2 career the biggest secret is always be learning something related to 6s

which is like the vaguest and most bullshit answer in the world sorry i'll try to explain

in 2012 I started MGEing a shitload. By mid 2013 I got to the point where I was beating open players p consistently soldier v soldier, so I joined an open team. I ended up getting creamed, and my solution was to keep playing MGE. A year later I tried open again and I wasn't doing much better. At this point, I know why. By 2013, I'd more or less learned all I could from MGE. I was still getting better at the mechanical skills and shit but I wasn't really learning about TF2 anymore. I know all there was to know about surfing rockets and gaying 1v1s, at least from a theoretical side if not in practice. Practicing more MGE was only going to teach me more about MGE at that point. At that point, I decided to start DMing as a way to practice. I learned from that and kept improving (and got tendinitis), but after a point the same thing happened. I learned the gay strats that worked in both DM and 6s, and continuing to practice DM wasn't gonna teach me about 6s.

So I guess the most succinct advice would be to pick a new gamemode or pug group or something. Play with people you've never played before, but who can teach you things you didn't already know. Don't think continuing to scrim the same teams or pug with the same guys or MGEing on the same server is going to work forever, because you'll eventually learn all they have to teach you. Make sure you're always learning about 6s when you're "practicing" and not just playing tf2 and calling it practice
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#27
4 Frags +

for me personally actually joining a team and trying hard on it and grinding dm has done more than pugs and mge ever did being on an actual team is so much of a different experience and reignited my interest in tf2

for me personally actually joining a team and trying hard on it and grinding dm has done more than pugs and mge ever did being on an actual team is so much of a different experience and reignited my interest in tf2
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#28
6 Frags +

i plateau'd in IM and i have had a hard time getting anywhere in my gameplay afterwards. :(

i plateau'd in IM and i have had a hard time getting anywhere in my gameplay afterwards. :(
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#29
6 Frags +

play with and against people better than you

play with and against people better than you
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#30
7 Frags +
CitroMaindWell look at me, I have around 2600 hours and I'm in Mid Finals so idk.

is this where tf2 is going

i don't like it fuck go back

[quote=CitroMaind]Well look at me, I have around 2600 hours and I'm in Mid Finals so idk.[/quote]
is this where tf2 is going

i don't like it fuck go back
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