http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/263843316792782541/63E226D4827DD23DDD267E15F42C49BA1A867D8D/

it works

valve please make this not cheat only ;(

do the variables have a max value

can these be used to move it offscreen

Pretty sure that's what the slider is for, so you can change your viewmodel fovs.

not right now they don't. but it's sv_cheats only so it doesnt matter.

for some odd reason they decided to shove x y z in the entire command instead of like csgo. wonder if you could even limit them when theyre in a single command.

:)

I'm sure you probably can. Shame it's cheats-only.

yes in competitive

They can totally limit them, just not through the standard convar limit system

oh god valve please unblock tf_viewmodels_offset_override

doom viewmodels hype?

Wait a minute

This is actually a really good fix versus cheaters. Good on you Valve. Still salty about the viewmodels though, I spent way too much time working on that thing... :c

Doom viewmodels would be lit, I hope it's just a cheat command so they can test it or something.

Is that convar new?

Yeah

interesting

viewmodel_fov 0
tf_use_min_viewmodels 1

Allows for no view model and doesn't have the problem of covering up your whole screen when reloading like in non min view model mode

It's almost like people who know a hell of a lot more about the game than valve want to disable view models

ppl are saying viewmodel_fov .1 works ?

Exactly. Remember when Valve thought that the reload animation for Spy Revolvers and Heavy Shotguns should block the middle 60% of the screen?

anyone have pics of the fixes for high viewmodels?

I thought Black Box's reload time was already identical to stock.

it is, the animation was just off

But did they change actual reload time for CM?

no

http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/270598716232946269/7A411EC4EDDFD5272D80ED1C7A6C78D7216D76C8/

slenderdemoman

Thanks Valve, for removing the ability to work around your horrible ideas on viewmodel restrictions. I have to say, it's very difficult to play normally on some classes without viewmodel_fov 0 or without yttrium's viewmodel animations, minmodels or not. I really wish they wouldn't focus so hard on removing the things the community actually enjoys. I get that they want consistency but honestly this level of zealotry to remove any customization is just so damned annnoying to your consumers. And this is from the company that said they would, and I'm paraphrasing, not try to deter "illegal" methods of using their game by simply squashing the competition, but by outdoing the competition. How about you step up to the plate Valve? If you feel viewmodel customization is "too confusing for new players' (pardon the meme) you make it either less perplexing or just include some tooltips or something as a guide for the advanced options if you really feel it's too hard for everyone. Some tutorials and reward-based incentives would be in order if you feel certain bits of game knowledge are too esoteric (This also applies to general gameplay, as of writing there are only 4 class tutorials, and they are all very bare bones). Something to reward the desire to make the game better for the user rather. Furthermore, if you're concerned about the game looking ugly to the general spectating public, make the game not require such visual downgrades to run effectively and then there will be no issue.

I see now. Guess I've read it the wrong way.

http://puu.sh/qi1UG/a4d7fec535.png

tf_viewmodels_offset_override -5 5 -5
viewmodel_fov 70
This is what I personally wanted from the min viewmodels

The main thing I dislike about the min viewmodels is that rockets/pipes still come from the right.
Really hoping they consider maybe making some presets like csgo has. I don't really care about them unlocking xyz completely. But having like 2 or 3 minmode options would be nice

I CAN USE THE SWORD FOR ENGI

Great, back to 130 fov again.

"being exploited"

its hard to respect valve as a developer when they purposely restrict game commands that decrease the user experience and then instead of adjusting to backlash and playerbase developments they simply ignore the users and restrict it further