preach

This might come as a shocker to you but internal issues within the U.S. will generate more outrage for the U.S. public and the potential deaths of U.S. citizens than something like the Venezuelan government spending thousands of dollars on a cake for the leader of the Bolivaran Revolution while their citizens are starving.

Also calling Americans burgers, why are you this edg-

Oh.

Talk to a Donald Trump supporter and hear them out, calling them idiots and shit only entrenches them in their opinions. You don't have to agree with them but you'd be surprised to hear that people have a valid reason to vote Trump.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dY77j6uBHI

Trump has lied more times than anyone else this campaign lol

http://i.imgur.com/V3oBev7.png

my favorite weapon

Trump's Politifact record. Clinton, for comparison. Neither are good, but you simply can't claim Trump is always honest.

Anyone who says this is completely delusional. Trump is a business man, he has a lot of vested interests in his companies. How he not a "corporate mouthpiece"?

Trump is also delusional himself. He thinks he will build a wall to stop illegal immigration. He's not going to. I know John Oliver might not be the best source, but he does actually use expert information and does some pretty good journalism IMO.

He also thinks he is going to deport 11M illegal immigrants. The BBC thinks that will cost $114bn.

ya idk at least trump isn't boring i guess

I'm voting for Jill Stein fuck all this

On the bright side we have a third candidate who will most likely be invited to the debate. But on the other hand, he's gonna kill te public education system as we know it. So he's an idiot.

http://i.imgur.com/AyTwIy9.png

vote for jill stein if you have any brains

Doesn't Jill Stein pander to anti-vaxxers and use their reasoning of not trusting the FDA/CDC?

she's literally not even on the ballot for half of the country. i hate to be a "hurr wasted vote" guy because that mindset is why we get fucked by the two party system every four years, but if you want to vote third party you should probably go for the one that's actually on the ballot in all 50 states.

Being wary of corporate influence in the pharmecautical approval process and suggesting the regulatory boards may not be trusted does not mean she necessarily thinks they are unsafe, but she assumes there is a possibility. That sort of ambiguity is probably intentional but I dont think its anything to get in a huff over

@obe write-ins exist if they aren't on your ballot my man

i'm sorry, i did not realize how bad the system was

but it's a testament to how underrepresented she is. people won't write her in if they don't even know she exists. it's really unfortunate because i definitely find her the most appealing candidate by far, but it's just unrealistic to expect her to win. i might vote for her anyway, just to feel better about myself for not caving to the two-party trap, but i haven't decided yet.

It isn't edgy to mock american exceptionalism.

I would still rather vote for trump than a criminal

While I'm not for Trump or Clinton people need to remember that they don't have unlimited power and things they want to do or laws they want to pass aren't likely to pass if they are as radical or outrageous as they are during their campagin.

Look how much Obama struggled to get stuff passed and while you might not like him he's much more enjoyable than Trump or Clinton

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Please do not vote for Stein. Just read her platform and you'll see the only reason she's getting any sort of attention is because so many people don't like the other candidates. Her plans for policy, while I agree with some of them, are just so extremely far left that it would basically be impossible for her to do anything.

Besides that, just look at her experience. The only real office she's held is Lexington Town Meeting Representative. Something that she received by getting ~500 votes in some local thing.

Stein has failed at running for governor of massachusetts twice, failed at running for the house of representatives, and failed at running for secretary of the commonwealth. Then after these failures, she decides to run for president? Too me that just looks like someone who is totally disillusioned. I just don't understand how people actually think this is someone who is fit to be our president.

Also I know someone else has mentioned this, but I feel like people are always forgetting it. This next president will be able to appoint at least two new supreme court justices, and basically swing the supreme court to extreme left or extreme right. So if you're in one of the #NeverTrump or #NeverHillery camps, please just take this into account when you vote. This election will have consequences far past the 4-8 years the candidate has in office, basically for a good part of many of the people who post here's life. So if you hate either of the candidates, but agree with conservative or democratic politics, just bite the bullet and vote for your candidate.

people who feel the need to vote for a party or candidate instead of using their brain and voting on issues should have their right to vote revoked.

"i have to vote for hillary because trump is racist"
"i have to vote for trump because hillary is a liar/criminal"

unless you live in a battleground state it legit does not matter this election is way too close for votes in blue/red states to matter, if you are unhappy with the major party offerings you should vote 3rd party or abstain from voting instead of throwing away your vote and not truly showing your discontent. like who the fuck wastes their time to vote for a candidate they don't even like, are you a masochist or something?

if you gonna vote for a third party, go for this bloke http://www.zoltanistvan.com/ He invented volcanoboarding

Yeah this is true, unless you live in a swing state, then sure, go ahead and vote third party if it makes you feel better. Also if you are going to vote third party, at least vote for someone with experience, like Gary Johnson, someone who has actually held major public office before running for president.

Also to address your main point, this is actually wrong. Using the First Pass The Post voting system that the United States uses, there is mathematically, no room for a third party candidate for president, it just can't happen. This is why people vote for things they don't like.

Lol people get butt hurt so easily nowadays.

Mike Pence has been extremely anti-LGBT doing such things as:

- Supported a constitutional amendment to ban marriage equality
- Opposed the repeal of Don't Ask Don't Tell.
- Wanted to stop funding HIV prevention and instead put the money towards conversion therapy.
- SIGNED A BILL THAT WOULD FUCKING JAIL GAY PEOPLE WHO APPLIED FOR A MARRIAGE LISCENCE IN INDIANA

Trump has also put out a list of potential supreme court justice nominees that include such people as:

- Judge Diane Sykes who ruled that a student group was allowed to discriminate against gay people and still receive public funding.
- Justice Don Willett who regularly mocks LGBT people on twitter making tweets talking about how he'd support “a constitutional right to marry bacon” and tweeting “go away A-rod” in response to California's law that allows transgender high school students to play on sports teams of their corresponding gender identity.
- Judge William H. Pryor Jr. who refused to even hear a challenge to Florida's law that banned gay people from adopting.

In short, if you think a Trump administration would be anything but highly anti-LGBT you're fooling yourself. Oh and lastly, in regards to his supposedly pro-lgbt point in his nomination speech Trump said:

"As your president, I will do everything in my power to protect our LGBTQ* citizens from the violence and oppression of the hateful foreign ideology"

You don't have to be a genius to realize that this is pandering to socially liberal people who might vote for Trump while still keeping all the bigots in the Republican party happy by keeping the focus on how evil foreigners are. This isn't even something unique from Trump – after the Orlando shooting plenty of religious right wingers tried to say that Muslims are the true enemies of LGBT people in America, which is laughable considering all the religious right wing groups that have worked tirelessly to make sure that LGBT people don't have equal rights in America. It's just a strategy to try and gain some votes, but Trump's VP pick and the people he's said he'll elect clearly shows his attitude towards LGBT people.

*he struggled to even say this properly if you watched the speech

http://static6.businessinsider.com/image/55e721cabd86ef14008b7939-480/donald-trump-wwe-hall-of-fame.jpg

its a video game forum why did u make this thread if u probably cant even vote urself

The majority of us are of voting age.
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScqruoGsKTHRe45KlfLG1_FbUyvQVXmKvIUtzqN4wXPHJOkhA/viewanalytics?usp=form_confirm

implying people actually put their actual ages there lol